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  • #862,181
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:35am Dec 10, 2013 1:35am
Quoting cat
{quote} I've no idea, you tell me.

What he is trying to say MA's are by product of price action not other way around.
So something happens then MA after considerable lag time shows where it happened.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #862,182
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:35am Dec 10, 2013 1:35am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Best decision ever. I made one at that thread once, no body ever lashed me so much they did the other day. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=364882
what nobody leashed you?
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #862,183
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:36am Dec 10, 2013 1:36am
Quoting ffleo
why the high of UJ is so hard to crack? who is protecting it? it has been fighting near the high for so long, nearly 16 hours. 16 hours cannot crack the high, wtf.
U r kidding, UJ has to break 104 and higher.
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  • #862,184
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:38am Dec 10, 2013 1:38am
Quoting Davit
{quote} What he is trying to say MA's are by product of price action not other way around. So something happens then MA after considerable lag time shows where it happened.
I disagree. What sent uj down in May?
  • #862,185
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:39am Dec 10, 2013 1:39am
Quoting Cowboy11
{quote} U r kidding, UJ has to break 104 and higher.
im not kidding. I want it to break 104 and go higher. right now nothing stops EJ and GJ from going higher.

the thing hurts euro and cable bears is UJ, and its high is highly protected right now.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #862,186
  • Edited 1:54am Dec 10, 2013 1:43am | Edited 1:54am
Quoting cat
{quote} I disagree. What sent uj down in May?

There are more significant confluences then MA's. Rate cut,Bubble heads like president of Bank of Japan saying what needs to be said or prime minister of finance etc.
Example yesterdays ECB meeting Draghi basically made Euro fly high or Carney last 2 press conferences both caused GU to fly high.Don't overlook fickle nature of fundamentals.
To me 200MA is most significant in terms of bias other then that everything else is secondary as far as MA's go.People say "I use Ma's to see the trend"Dahh if you can't see LL HH HL on naked chart then you need help.
To go even further MA cross overs don't work.If we want to be successful at this we must think outside of the box.
Funny how all MA system threads hardly anyone loses but ironically after 2 months it dies down and that includes Bill Williams Chaos too.
Reason is simple by the time all MA's say buy or Sell good chunk of the move has already taken place and you are basically scavenging the crumbs.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #862,187
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:50am Dec 10, 2013 1:50am
Quoting TauTrader
Good day to you, Will we have support now? Regards {image} {image}

according to levels, we are going up after bouncing monthly pivot 5th try.. on same week early month, then gap up above r1 monthly.
according to my newbie understanding, nearest level should be r 1 monthly. rite? or maybe playing on weekly level
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  • #862,188
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:52am Dec 10, 2013 1:52am
Quoting Davit
{quote} There are more significant confluences then MA's. Rate cut,Bubble heads like president of Bank of Japan saying what needs to be said or prime minister of finance etc. Example yesterdays ECB meeting Draghi basically made Euro fly high or Carney last 2 press conferences both caused GU to fly high.Don't overlook fickle nature of fundamentals. To me 200MA is most significant in terms of bias other then that everything else is secondary as far as MA's go.People say "I use Ma's to see the trend"Dahh if you can't see LL HH HL on naked chart then...
I don't ignore them, but I can't trade them as I have no way of predicting what will be said and when, and as I am a trader and not an investor, I stick solely to that which I can see and understand, and that is my charts. News announcements can and do cause the price to spike, but for me it is not about trying to predict which way these are going to send the market, but reacting to them once the initial shock is over, in accordance with the technical picture.
  • #862,189
  • Dec 10, 2013 1:56am Dec 10, 2013 1:56am
daily is signaling 1.4 in the days to come. short term retracement possible but 1.4 will come. cleared all euro shorts. now long eur/chf
  • #862,190
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:00am Dec 10, 2013 2:00am
Quoting cat
{quote} I don't ignore them, but I can't trade them as I have no way of predicting what will be said and when, and as I am a trader and not an investor, I stick solely to that which I can see and understand, and that is my charts. News announcements can and do cause the price to spike, but for me it is not about trying to predict which way these are going to send the market, but reacting to them once the initial shock is over, in accordance with the technical picture.

I am just trying to make you see that moving average is nothing but mathematical price history
You must built a system that creates real edge ideally independent of moving average.
Having said this if it works for you by all means ignore what I said on my posts.I am certain in due time you will come to same realization.
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #862,191
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:04am Dec 10, 2013 2:04am
Quoting ffleo
why the high of UJ is so hard to crack? who is protecting it? it has been fighting near the high for so long, nearly 16 hours. 16 hours cannot crack the high, wtf.

At (2) bulls covered in combination with bears shorting thinking is too high, many stops above (2).

The point is, we do not know if the move from (3) back to recent high is genuine or not, it may just a move from the market movers to make more money knowing of the sitting stops….. That is why I said this morning it is not easy to know, but we only would see a bit better when it gets there……..

Best for "outsiders" which are us, is to buy @ 3, cover partial @ the recent high, move SL to BE and if it continues, all good, if not we made some..
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  • #862,192
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:04am Dec 10, 2013 2:04am
Quoting miguel.n
{quote} so seat belt on for the rocket ! -) {image}
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  • #862,193
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:11am Dec 10, 2013 2:11am
EURO could dive deep into the ocean. I think the lady is loosing the grip she once had. It has to be a rush. Definitely a sudden one. Would the 2.105 Magnitude downward be a print. Time to keep my fingers crossed
Keep the Lights on then you can catch the rise from the dark.
  • #862,194
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:14am Dec 10, 2013 2:14am
Quoting milam
{quote} At (2) bulls covered in combination with bears shorting thinking is too high, many stops above (2). The point is, we do not know if the move from (3) back to recent high is genuine or not, it may just a move from the market movers to make more money knowing of the sitting stops….. That is why I said this morning it is not easy to know, but we only would see a bit better when it gets there…….. Best for "outsiders" which are us, is to buy @ 3, cover partial @ the recent high, move SL to BE and if it continues, all good, if not we made some.....
it is all about us dollar being bullish or bearish. EJ and GJ highs can be taken out gradually one by one, why UJ high cannot?
Now UJ failed taking out its high, and is dropping now. Watch euro and cable go high.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #862,195
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:18am Dec 10, 2013 2:18am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} it is all about us dollar being bullish or bearish. EJ and GJ highs can be taken out gradually one by one, why UJ high cannot? Now UJ failed taking out its high, and is dropping now. Watch euro and cable go high.
USD really weak against euro that proven again
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  • #862,196
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:20am Dec 10, 2013 2:20am
something to cheer you guys up.I am a huge Brass fan
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  • #862,197
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:22am Dec 10, 2013 2:22am
Quoting Davit
{quote} I am just trying to make you see that moving average is nothing but mathematical price history You must built a system that creates real edge ideally independent of moving average. Having said this if it works for you by all means ignore what I said on my posts.I am certain in due time you will come to same realization.
Moving averages are just one of the tools I use, but they are a major one. Combined with other indicators like divergence, fibonnaci levels, trend lines etc they are very powerful once you have learned with ones to use and how to use them.
  • #862,198
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:23am Dec 10, 2013 2:23am
Quoting forexings
{quote} USD really weak against euro that proven again
what makes dollar weak against euro? you have tons of yen in your hands and you can buy euro up but you cannot buy the dollar up.
There may be US banks too that hold tons of yen that can be used to buy euro.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #862,199
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:29am Dec 10, 2013 2:29am
Quoting Davit
Just want to say that traders who are long are treating short position traders like we are retard clowns. When price dived from 1.38 were you laughing as well? Its strange how the crystal ball holders keep pointing numbers 1.40-1.42-1.45 as though by saying it price will get there for sure. Please respect those who are short or mind your own business. {image}
harden up bro, that shits been around forever, what anyone think or say dosnt matter, if pa go down bear happy up bull happy, problem starts when one slags the other
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  • #862,200
  • Dec 10, 2013 2:33am Dec 10, 2013 2:33am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} what makes dollar weak against euro? you have tons of yen in your hands and you can buy euro up but you cannot buy the dollar up. There may be US banks too that hold tons of yen that can be used to buy euro.

why yen cannot buy dollar up?
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