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  • #61
  • Nov 6, 2013 3:41pm Nov 6, 2013 3:41pm
Its not a coin toss, you can often accurately predict price movements on a medium to longer term. Learn the dynamics of price movement and you will see
that patterns repeat themselves as a result of order flow, loss of momentum and gain of momentum.
  • #62
  • Nov 6, 2013 3:43pm Nov 6, 2013 3:43pm
Open a weekly chart of Aud/Cad and look at the floor it had for many months, do you think its random that price found support at 1.000. No, that market found buyers at that level, and when price closes below that. It should act as resistance. Market dynamics 101.
  • #63
  • Nov 6, 2013 3:45pm Nov 6, 2013 3:45pm
Many movements of the market are random especially intraday noise. You need to find where there is likely to be more buying or selling and trade in that direction. The market it driven by supply and demand, Price is all that matters.
  • #64
  • Nov 7, 2013 7:34am Nov 7, 2013 7:34am
Q:
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Is this a random dance?... {image}
A:
Quoting TravisM
There are random fluctuations but a clear underlying movement. Entries and exists are the only important thing.
  • #65
  • Nov 7, 2013 11:31am Nov 7, 2013 11:31am
Quoting TheMaxx
Q: {quote} A: {quote}
i like that maxx
  • #66
  • Nov 7, 2013 2:03pm Nov 7, 2013 2:03pm
Quoting diceman555
{quote} i like that maxx

  • #67
  • Nov 7, 2013 3:46pm Nov 7, 2013 3:46pm
Quoting TheMaxx
Q: {quote} A: {quote}
This is when splitting up your order over MULTIPLE entries pays off.

Do remember to set your stop loss, don't wanna be stuck in any trade when its time to get out
  • #68
  • Nov 7, 2013 4:09pm Nov 7, 2013 4:09pm
Nothing is random .every thing goes with in its own rules human think it is random because he dont know the rules .
if a bank buy bank price will raise this is a rule and if it took profit price will fall combined banks and hedge funds and small traders that buy and sell create the output picture because there act followed a rule and was not random the out put picture also can have a rule and logic that it move thought it .discovering such a rule needs certain capabilities and minds but they do exist and until they are discovered people will see the markets moving randomly because they can not contain or bound the move with rules in there minds
all have a nice day
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  • #69
  • Nov 7, 2013 4:13pm Nov 7, 2013 4:13pm
Apparently, punctuation is random.
There's always money in the banana stand.
  • #70
  • Nov 7, 2013 4:43pm Nov 7, 2013 4:43pm
Quoting LizardGizzard
Apparently, punctuation is random.
what.makes,you 'say.that,
  • #71
  • Nov 7, 2013 6:22pm Nov 7, 2013 6:22pm
psst psst, here's a sample of possibilities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

when a thing can actually have perfect 50% chance, it may still goes to 1 side, not both side, or stay in the middle
say coin toss has 50% chance, that doesn't make the result to be 50% head and 50% tail because the occurrence maybe too few
so when coin is tossed for 1 time only, we can say that the result is random

and big bang only happens once, so you may say universe is randomized.
do my mind miss something?
  • #72
  • Nov 7, 2013 8:13pm Nov 7, 2013 8:13pm
Quoting LizardGizzard
Apparently, punctuation is random.
If you mean my Elliot wave punctuation . follow them out
all have a nice day
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  • #73
  • Nov 8, 2013 12:57am Nov 8, 2013 12:57am
Quoting Gwan
psst psst, here's a sample of possibilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat when a thing can actually have perfect 50% chance, it may still goes to 1 side, not both side, or stay in the middle say coin toss has 50% chance, that doesn't make the result to be 50% head and 50% tail because the occurrence maybe too few so when coin is tossed for 1 time only, we can say that the result is random and big bang only happens once, so you may say universe is randomized. do my mind miss something?
now your opening a can of worms !

certainly a topic i have much interest in.
  • #74
  • Nov 8, 2013 5:48am Nov 8, 2013 5:48am
The market is part random and part not random. When individual or entities would come into the market is random. They may or may not affect the prices.

The part that is not random is where the market seeks to make money from guaranteed profit. For instance, when you buy 10 and stop 5, you are guaranteeing to buy high and to sell low. Such offers of guarantees are accepted by the market most of the time, although not always. So if you have information on where such guaranteed profits are, the market becomes often predictable. People should have no trouble appreciating that the market is efficient and it will seek out all guaranteed profits, in preference to other profits needing more work.
  • #75
  • Nov 8, 2013 5:38pm Nov 8, 2013 5:38pm
The market is far from random. It can be looked at in a very objective manner. There are individuals out there with deep pockets that have different agendas than most retail traders, and can seem confusing initially, but I can assure you, it is not random.
  • #76
  • Nov 11, 2013 4:11am Nov 11, 2013 4:11am
Quoting Good Lookin
{quote} This is when splitting up your order over MULTIPLE entries pays off. Do remember to set your stop loss, don't wanna be stuck in any trade when its time to get out
Heheh
  • #77
  • Nov 11, 2013 3:48pm Nov 11, 2013 3:48pm
I take random trades in a random market giving me random profits... ^^
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  • #78
  • May 10, 2014 8:07pm May 10, 2014 8:07pm
Let's try once more...

If it is unpredictable/random/like latter example or worse, then what and how will you follow?
When will you enter and when will you exit?

(Most theories here on site I believe probably work only in theory but in real trading there is absolutely NEGATIVE ZERO chance for them to consistently work/produce profits in trading)

Quoting Legionary
How will you know? For simplicity example is simplified (but true or easier than real FX market) Time: - sell/buy 10:03 someone buys 10.000 10.04 John buy 2.000 10.05 someone sells 30.000 10.06 someone sells 70.000 10.07 Clive sell 1.000 10.08 someone buys 50.000 10.09 someone sells 78.000 10.10 someone buys 300.000 10.11 Peter buy 5.000 10.12 someone buys 100.000 10.13 someone sells 500.000 10.14 someone buys 250.000 10.15 someone sells 4.000.000 10.16 Henry sell 25.000 10.17 someone buys 12.000.000 Please let me know via pm or here, and please...
  • #79
  • May 11, 2014 1:28am May 11, 2014 1:28am
Hi Diceman
How on Earth Anybody Can Think Market is Random ? How is it Possible to Think Market is Random and Created From Randomness ?
Theres Exactly specified Price Must Be Where at Specific Times
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  • #80
  • May 11, 2014 3:20am May 11, 2014 3:20am
where is the evidence that is not random? I mean scientific evidence, not someones opinion?

and really it is not what the market is that matters, it is what we perceive it to be that is important.
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