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  • #59,401
  • Sep 18, 2013 2:47pm Sep 18, 2013 2:47pm
jmflukeiii,

Very impressive research you found ! So certainly 1H and above TF show 95% + correlation
between tick volume and actual (total traded) volume for major pairs.

Two questions then:

1. The study above uses eSignal tick volume, if I read correctly. How about the average
broker tick volume, since from what I understand, these tick volumes are from the broker servers
only, and not some aggregation, as perhaps on eSignal platform? Of course MT4 brokers can carry
very large to very little customer trades.

2. "It is this relationship that led to the development of
the Marney Volume Indicator™ (MVI) and Marney
Range Indicator (MRI), first published in FX
Trader Magazine ( July-September 2010 edition).
We have found the indicators very useful additions
to our own proprietary trading."

Do you know of any such indis on MT4, or something close?
Is the SonicR PVA indi a good approximation?

Regards,
Athar.




Quoting jmflukeiii
Use google. Very high correlation of tick volume to actual volume. http://www.tradeguider.com/emailshot/fxvolume.pdf or if you are a member, here: http://www.fxtradermagazine.com/archive_apr11_en.php
  • #59,402
  • Sep 18, 2013 2:56pm Sep 18, 2013 2:56pm
Quoting fex
{quote} TOLD CHA My account has burst again. It's time for reflection, study and open new account. @feinan & foxsama I hope you operated better than me. Cheers.
Im so sorry to hear that.Anyway i think my account will burst later.I made many mistakes and learned a lot from this trade.If GU release i will cut off some calls to leave some seeds.I hope we will be better with next new accout.My best wishes.
  • #59,403
  • Sep 18, 2013 3:18pm Sep 18, 2013 3:18pm
  •  Ravelt
  • | Joined Feb 2013 | Status: The Closer You Look The Less You Se | 194 Posts
Quoting fex
{quote} TOLD CHA My account has burst again. It's time for reflection, study and open new account. @feinan & foxsama I hope you operated better than me. Cheers.
you are not alone my friend, my account has burst too
  • #59,404
  • Sep 18, 2013 3:30pm Sep 18, 2013 3:30pm
AU Trade: 32 Eps, Closed on 9/16/2013 for -4908.7 Pips. It reached -20% DD, which I felt was a good time to let it go. I've made some and loss some. Total pips gained is 10k. So net gain is about 5k since July 22, 2013. I think I'm at a good place to stop and re-assess/ try again.

I blame a lot of it to my own over trading. I've been able to dodge today's move, so my account is not wiped out. After all this time, I've come to realize that this method requires a lot of patience and perserverence. Thank you everyone here for your support (Tah, Msis, Sonic, etc...). I've gained a lot of experience and knowledge from PVSRA, and building positions style of trading. I'll still be around but will not be as active as I re-assess my own trading.

Best wishes to all.

-qFish
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #59,405
  • Sep 18, 2013 3:58pm Sep 18, 2013 3:58pm
all account of sonicer got blown-ed out by the FOMC candle
  • #59,406
  • Sep 18, 2013 4:13pm Sep 18, 2013 4:13pm
Quoting pamboys09
all account of sonicer got blown-ed out by the FOMC candle
EU short AVG entry 1.3322 14 seed ... down AVG 198 pips/seed

I am still around I added on the way up but didn't expect the way up to be so way up....

Is the EUR really worth 2c more compared to the USD now ? come on....nothings really changed... if anything it was the right thing to do to ensure the world economy really gets on its feet and grounded but I would have preferred a little on the tapering ...at least my 401K is holding up better than this EU trade....equities are killing it...
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Entries in the wicks over and over **PVSRA rules!
  • #59,407
  • Sep 18, 2013 5:42pm Sep 18, 2013 5:42pm
Well I have tanked my account 50%, 0.05 lot is way to high for 14k deposit. So trade lightly!

Although closed UJ for some nice profit!
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There is no spoon....
  • #59,408
  • Sep 18, 2013 5:42pm Sep 18, 2013 5:42pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Taken profit fr EJ short.... will add scout long for bernanke casino Sonic Ser TAH, u got pm..
8 hrs later.. told cha..



Gd morning Fr Singapore
Sonic
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  • #59,409
  • Sep 18, 2013 5:48pm Sep 18, 2013 5:48pm
Here is my margin call trades that have closed, I am not ashamed of them, just embarrassed of my dumbness!
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There is no spoon....
  • #59,410
  • Sep 18, 2013 5:48pm Sep 18, 2013 5:48pm
random question, when TAH mentions to trade 0.1 per scout is that for a forex or spread betting account?
  • #59,411
  • Sep 18, 2013 5:54pm Sep 18, 2013 5:54pm
its 0.01 - forex!
There is no spoon....
  • #59,412
  • Sep 18, 2013 6:47pm Sep 18, 2013 6:47pm
Quoting pamboys09
all account of sonicer got blown-ed out by the FOMC candle

Not at all. You see in UJ building short, maybe 2 weeks ago, and HEAD SHOT.
Keep learning until you die :-)
  • #59,413
  • Sep 18, 2013 7:26pm Sep 18, 2013 7:26pm
Quoting trihhnguyen
{quote} Not at all. You see in UJ building short, maybe 2 weeks ago, and HEAD SHOT.
Good old "HEAD SHOT" from the game UT2004.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
  • #59,414
  • Sep 18, 2013 7:56pm Sep 18, 2013 7:56pm
Quoting Ravelt
{quote} you are not alone my friend, my account has burst too
Dang, I saw your live explorer that's a huge loss.
  • #59,415
  • Sep 18, 2013 8:35pm Sep 18, 2013 8:35pm
  •  Ravelt
  • | Joined Feb 2013 | Status: The Closer You Look The Less You Se | 194 Posts
Quoting maflip
{quote} Dang, I saw your live explorer that's a huge loss.
no no you get it wrong. it's for cents i dont know why it's showed like that in explorer. and in cent account 1 lot = 0.01 lot in normal account i'm not dumb enough to put alot of money in "work in progress"
  • #59,416
  • Sep 18, 2013 8:44pm Sep 18, 2013 8:44pm
Quoting Ravelt
{quote} no no you get it wrong. it's for cents i dont know why it's showed like that in explorer. and in cent account 1 lot = 0.01 lot in normal account i'm not dumb enough to put alot of money in "work in progress"
ah ok
  • #59,417
  • Sep 18, 2013 9:45pm Sep 18, 2013 9:45pm
UJ Long Trade:

Time to get back in the saddle. New session trading took price back down to whole SR, bounced on increased volume, up, pullback, entry. Can't know what MMs will do later, but this should be a good area for entry since the wacking yesterday took the price below the whole SR several times, each with a strong return back up. No TP at this time.
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  • #59,418
  • Sep 18, 2013 9:47pm Sep 18, 2013 9:47pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} 8 hrs later.. told cha.. Gd morning Fr Singapore Sonic {image}
Master Sonic and Prof Tah,

Seems like both of you have a very different view and analysis using volume.

I understand on Prof Tah's view and analysis using PVSRA and if the MMs are bulls or bears.

Master Sonic, can you share some of your views and how you use volume as part of your analysis so we can perhaps compliment both of the masters together?

Thanks!
  • #59,419
  • Edited 10:26pm Sep 18, 2013 10:08pm | Edited 10:26pm
Quoting Msis125125
Here is my margin call trades that have closed, I am not ashamed of them, just embarrassed of my dumbness! {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Msis,

I took a big hit too. The dust has still not settled, but when it does I will take stock and report here. The majority of trades have so far escaped hits, but three were hit, big ones and hit very hard. Over time, I suppose the other trades will help make up a good portion of the hit taken. For now things are still in a state of flux.

Funny thing is (if anything can be funny at this point) all the news programs claim the latest news on the USA economy is great! Yet, look what the MMs did! It just goes to prove the point that what the MMs do with market prices has more to do with how they can best screw others than what it has to do with the facts of the economies of the countries involved. I don't see how anyone with average intelligence or above can look at what is going on and not admit the the markets are highly manipulated and that prices are what the MMs want them to be, not what the true relative values of the currencies would have them be.

Onwards and back upwards! I gave myself a year to run this PVSRA effort to ground. The market has swung its greatest blow in many a year, and that is a fact! Yet, with the current results of the blow, as big as the hit is up to right now, the results leave me much better off for the time using PVSRA than I have ever had in all my prior years for the same duration of time. I will lament the loss of substantial pips, sure, but at the same time I retain far more than I ever expected to achieve when this all began.

-tah
  • #59,420
  • Sep 18, 2013 10:14pm Sep 18, 2013 10:14pm
Quoting akyong
{quote} Master Sonic and Prof Tah, Seems like both of you have a very different view and analysis using volume. I understand on Prof Tah's view and analysis using PVSRA and if the MMs are bulls or bears. Master Sonic, can you share some of your views and how you use volume as part of your analysis so we can perhaps compliment both of the masters together? Thanks!
1. I use SL.. wide one so that my position can withstand minor whipping. But SL must a must.. I DO not want one bad trades or group of trade to wipe my acc..
2. I do not add my losers. If my positions in red, I DO not add positions.. I swallow my pride n let my positions hit SL or add only when they become in position regions again..
3. I use higher TF as bias (go see my YouTube)

Sonic
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