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  • #57,981
  • Aug 31, 2013 11:17am Aug 31, 2013 11:17am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Apollo14, Ah! Now we get to the crux of the matter! It might not be possible, Apollo14. But certainly not for lack of your trying. As you have stated, you are seeking a purely mathematical solution. PVSRA has both objective and subjective aspects. While the objective aspects might eventually be narrowed down to just those that most often have the most significant and most reliable indications (the purpose of the in-work project), and converted mathematically, the subjective aspects will defy mathematical conversion. And that is the essence...

TAH...nice statement ...thx
  • #57,982
  • Aug 31, 2013 11:38am Aug 31, 2013 11:38am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Apollo14, Ah! Now we get to the crux of the matter! It might not be possible, Apollo14. But certainly not for lack of your trying. As you have stated, you are seeking a purely mathematical solution. PVSRA has both objective and subjective aspects. While the objective aspects might eventually be narrowed down to just those that most often have the most significant and most reliable indications (the purpose of the in-work project), and converted mathematically, t -tah
Thanks for the reply

The answer is one that has been here for a long time, I approve of what you write.
My idea is to analyze and filter cross 15 positions choosing those operations more favorable. To do this I need your historical record to know what were the last 10 transactions that you have put in DD significantly. This is to reconstruct and analyze what happened to the trend / cycle and focus on what TF are mathematically certain that I find a report to be put in the algorithm.

An example EU above. Time frame the most rooms have more precision.
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  • #57,983
  • Aug 31, 2013 1:02pm Aug 31, 2013 1:02pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} The latest released are those linked in Post #1. Folks that scour the paper clip list to find stuff are going about finding the best in a totally illogical way, and far more times than not they end up with outdated stuff.
Brilliant thanks tah. Out of interest how did you get on with experimenting with displaying multiple dragons on single TFs...?
  • #57,984
  • Aug 31, 2013 1:54pm Aug 31, 2013 1:54pm
Quoting banteka
{quote} I agree with you, DmitryFX. And I want to add this: 2/3 of the opened trades in OANDA are SHORTS. There's a lot of money pointing to the south...
Banteka, your note makes me to make another one analysis of AU.
Daily chart is showing us very strong down trend. May be it will find support @0.88 but in confluence with falling of GOLD I think there is no chance. Yes very big guys are loading longs of AU since April, but it can be central banks. May be they are changing it's currencies reserves.
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Lower H1 charts is not very clear but if to be more accurate with details we can find that significant peaks of volumes were happened at local Highs and after those peaks volumes shown the falling together with falling of the price. Definitely Bearish signs!
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The Price action @ 15m chart since last two days is just confirms that we have Bearish market, because we have two local Tops with high volume activities around it. Especially I like activities around 0.895 level.
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And finally M1 chart. No more doubts! Just look at this very clear signals! Every trading level was used by MM's for load short.
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So, together with information about retail traders sentiments (79.79% are Bulls) we can suppose with high rate of probability that AUssie will fallen down. The only one question is - How deep?
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p.s. now puzzle completed: USD - down, EUR & CHF - up, AUD - down, YEN - up.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #57,985
  • Aug 31, 2013 4:36pm Aug 31, 2013 4:36pm
Quoting figgsey
{quote} Brilliant thanks tah. Out of interest how did you get on with experimenting with displaying multiple dragons on single TFs...?
I set aside the creation for the day I experiment with Islander's method.
  • #57,986
  • Aug 31, 2013 7:55pm Aug 31, 2013 7:55pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} This is the first time I write about this because it's just a personal experiment that I'm trying to observe. Take a look to the thirst image. Using the volume in H1, I'm detecting that normally at the beginning and at the end there is always a candle with huge volume. And after that I start to see trend weakness and volume telling me that a potential reversal could be coming. In this case, I would like to seea 1H candle with a volume equal (or almost equal) than the candle we saw at the top of the chart. It isn't happen all the time (that...
Tymedu, this a very astute observation, but be careful as per above, using the 1 hour spikes in volume at the end of the trading day. Some brokerages and MMs were just charged with price manipulation, driving the price up at the end of the day to reduce the impact of client bad trades and make there bottom line look better. I suggest that this practice will probably stop now that they are under the eye of the regulator and an investigation is currently ongoing.

Hendal
  • #57,987
  • Edited 1:47pm Sep 1, 2013 2:43am | Edited 1:47pm
Ode to Lucifer

On August 20, 2013 new arrival "Lucy Furr" posted (reference: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...78#post6906678) the following.....

"I see no Sonicers on the thread, just PVSRA students. Just as I do not go and 'troll' the Elliot wave, or Fibonacci threads, I am more than happy to stay away from the nuances of PVSRA, and certainly am not 'trolling'. However when a market has risen for two weeks, nearly 5 handles, and the students say it's still bearish, because the 1 minute vol is going up and is claimed as showing sellers, I just have to call a spade a spade. High volume bars when the market is going up does not always mean they are 'sneaky manipulative MM's screwing you over. Maybe they are just buyers.But then that wouldn't fit in with your conspiracy theories. The comments you have made regarding MM's is hilarious, and so far from the truth, that I have to continually bite my tongue from saying something.

I am, or was, one of those MM's that you seem to blame for all your trading problems, s/l's taken out, whining all the time about how bad, and evil we are, placing all your frustrations upon us, etc for over 20 years. Now I trade from home." - Lucy Furr


My Response:

The bottom line is this, on August 20, 2013 Lucy Furr, an "MM" for 20 years, and now trading from home, intimated EU was going up further, and mocked PVSRA and the students of PVSRA! If you look at the H4 chart attached you will see that after Lucy Furr's expert analysis on August 20, backed by 20 years of experience as an MM, the price immediately started down and has continued down ever since!

PVSRA works. It is the best real-time market analysis there is! It is even better than an MM with twenty years of experience!

I have never had more satisfaction composing a post,
-tah
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  • #57,988
  • Sep 1, 2013 3:27am Sep 1, 2013 3:27am
Quoting Hendal
{quote} Tymedu, this a very astute observation, but be careful as per above, using the 1 hour spikes in volume at the end of the trading day. Some brokerages and MMs were just charged with price manipulation, driving the price up at the end of the day to reduce the impact of client bad trades and make there bottom line look better. I suggest that this practice will probably stop now that they are under the eye of the regulator and an investigation is currently ongoing. Hendal
Indeed Hendal, that's why I remarked that it's just an experiment. For now I'm not trading based on that at all, but it's a curious behaviour and I will keep observing it until I have clearer conclusions. It's like a "final push" to exhaust the trend and I think it's interesting, but of course for now it's just an observation, not a fixed rule.

Thanks for your input

Best, Tymedu.
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #57,989
  • Sep 1, 2013 3:40am Sep 1, 2013 3:40am
Howdy Sonikers...

I am feeling great...


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Sonic
  • #57,990
  • Sep 1, 2013 3:58am Sep 1, 2013 3:58am
PVSRA Results for 1st Twenty Two Weeks

The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see.

Week ending 04/05
1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/12
1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/19
2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/26
2640 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 34 parts (all parts winners), averaging 77+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/03
2530 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 24 parts (23 parts winners), averaging 105+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/10
3050 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/17
1590 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 16 parts (all parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/24
3980 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 40 parts (33 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/31
4003 pips gained, 5 trades totaling 37 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 06/07
9813 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 61 parts (53 parts winners), averaging 160+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/14
3900 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 15 parts (all parts winners), averaging 260+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/21
4620 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/28
12,120 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 86 parts (82 parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/05
3,440 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 22 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 156+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/12
14,143 pips gained, 11 trades totaling 125 parts (115 parts winners), averaging 113+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/19
215 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 7 parts (all parts winners), averaging 30+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/26
1,170 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 25 parts (16 parts winners), averaging 46+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/02
10,850 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 102 parts (87 parts winners), averaging 106+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/09
7,784 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 72 parts (50 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/16
(-250) pips gained, 1 trades totaling 3 parts (0 parts winners), averaging -83+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/23
6,750 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 49 parts (42 parts winners), averaging 137+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/30
6,785 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 68 parts (64 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts

All of these trades, all of the trade parts thereof, were posted real-time right here on the Sonic R. System thread, using crystal clear easy to understand charts and explanations regarding PVSRA reasons for entries, whether Classic or Scout trades.

Summary Week Twenty Two

104,473 pips banked.
8,006 pips current draw down (net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
96,467 pips net gain (pips banked plus net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
4,384 pips weekly average net profit (weekly average net profit if all open PVSRA trades instantly closed).

Additional Remarks

I have one open non-PVSRA trade (first entered many months prior to PVSRA) that is down 12,612 pips (EJ short). For this trade to come into profit either the euro needs to weaken or the YEN needs to strengthen, or both. And both are more likely to happen than not. So, it is just a question of time. In any case, if I instantly closed this trade against my PVSRA net gains, I would still have 3,811 pips weekly average net profit over these past twenty two weeks! I doubt there are many traders at ForexFactory that can testify to such success as this, if any at all. I say this not to boast about myself, but about PVSRA. It is an effective real-time market analysis, so effective that it negates the old "truth" advocated by some, that one should never average down. It enables traders to trade the way professional traders do,.......and profit the way they do!

Final Remarks

Following six weeks of market ranging and shakeout of weak hands for some pairs, this week seemed to mark the end of it. My plan remained unchanged. I continued adding to some open trades when PVSRA indicated good opportunities, as well as opening and closing new trades. Draw downs on older trades is reduced, so the "state of draw down affairs" that intimidates traders and tests the validity of PVSRA, while still running it's course, is much improved.

-tah
  • #57,991
  • Sep 1, 2013 4:32am Sep 1, 2013 4:32am
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Twenty Two Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips...

Great Stuffs Sir..

Sonic
  • #57,992
  • Sep 1, 2013 4:38am Sep 1, 2013 4:38am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} I set aside the creation for the day I experiment with Islander's method.
Thanks for update Prof.
  • #57,993
  • Sep 1, 2013 5:03am Sep 1, 2013 5:03am
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Twenty Two Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips...
Tah,

Another great week and now, I am not even surprise anymore. I can now finally attest to your success and mine:

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My biggest baddest trade was EU, one that I have kept nurtured with much confidence for over 3 weeks! And during that time, I only traded two pairs (EU and another pair as my scouts were all in EU). And it turned out the most profit for me of any trade. My results show an average of 1455 pips/week gain. That is 1/3 of your weekly average. Is this a coincidence? Because my bank roll is actual 1/3 of yours!

So I tip my hat to you and thank you for the knowledge and opportunity you have given us. Only July 22, 2013, I was skeptical. Now, I am a believer. That's all you need people, just do it, and you will know. And trade very small. Forget the rest.

-qFish
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #57,994
  • Sep 1, 2013 5:10am Sep 1, 2013 5:10am
Quoting qFish
{quote} Tah, Another great week and now, I am not even surprise anymore. I can now finally attest to your success and mine: {image} My biggest baddest trade was EU, one that I have kept nurtured with much confidence for over 3 weeks! And during that time, I only traded two pairs (EU and another pair as my scouts were all in EU). And it turned out the most profit for me of any trade. My results show an average of 1455 pips/week gain. That is 1/3 of your weekly average. Is this a coincidence? Because my bank roll is actual 1/3 of yours! So I tip my...
the holy grail does not exist, but there is holy Sonicr + PSVRA
  • #57,995
  • Sep 1, 2013 6:55am Sep 1, 2013 6:55am
Quoting Encorep202
{quote} the holy grail does not exist, but there is holy Sonicr + PSVRA
  • #57,996
  • Sep 1, 2013 8:05am Sep 1, 2013 8:05am
In this forum, there are English-speaking traders or traders speaking Russian?
  • #57,997
  • Edited 9:28am Sep 1, 2013 8:24am | Edited 9:28am
Some statistics from Myfxbook.
It does look that EU bear MM's are succeding in their goal of sucking up as many long retail investors as they can get.
Look how the price of EU was dropping late last week and how the number of long lots was increasing dramatically (retail investors thinking that they are buying bargain low prices on EU).
In 2 days, the number of long lots more than doubled than the number of short lots.
Talking about the slaughtering of the sheeps by the unscroupulous MM's.
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  • #57,998
  • Sep 1, 2013 10:11am Sep 1, 2013 10:11am
Quoting bogdan11
Some statistics from Myfxbook. It does look that EU bear MM's are succeding in their goal of sucking up as many long retail investors as they can get. Look how the price of EU was dropping late last week and how the number of long lots was increasing dramatically (retail investors thinking that they are buying bargain low prices on EU). In 2 days, the number of long lots more than doubled than the number of short lots. Talking about the slaughtering of the sheeps by the unscroupulous MM's. {image}
Bogdan

That is interesting. Would like to see how that has played out historically. What is the indy?
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #57,999
  • Sep 1, 2013 10:13am Sep 1, 2013 10:13am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} {quote} You took the words right out of my mouth qFish! That was a wonderful post by Revoli. It should be added to the pdf and possibly to the page 1 data. The margin call isn't a totally bad thing, IF you keep the account balance at a level you are comfortable with losing. It's kind of like the ultimate SL. And a margin call doesn't necessarily blowout an account. It's designed to AVOID blowing out an account, by closing some trades automatically for you. Granted, it isn't a pleasant thing to experience, but it does protect you somewhat...
Gee thanks guys. I do my best rambling in the wee dark hours.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #58,000
  • Edited 12:21pm Sep 1, 2013 11:35am | Edited 12:21pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Great Stuffs Sir.. Sonic
PVSRA: Twenty Two Weeks of Proof, and Counting....

Sonic,

Thank you. I give credit to all Sonicers that made the decision to try PVSRA, to help with experimenting with it for the purpose of seeking it's best features and application.

Early on in April, after I first presented PVSRA to the thread as something that might be worthy of their time, some poster stated great reserve over trying PVSRA. I have not gone back to find that post, but if recollection serves me this was not a Sonicer, not even a newbie Sonicer. It was just another of those "outsiders" that pop in to spout their "higher wisdom". In this case, that poster claimed as much as maybe up to twenty six weeks of on-going PVSRA performance would be required to validate PVSRA. He wanted a half a year of proof!

I did not reply directly to that post. I was already posting weekly stats, and I decided to continue doing so. As you note, I am now thru week twenty two. Four more weeks will take this thru week twenty six. Since I do not recall who that poster was, I do not know if they have even followed PVSRA these past twenty two weeks. I have banked over ninty six thousand pips in twenty two weeks, net after all PVSRA draw downs are subtracted. And I can well imagine I will have banked a net of over one hundred thousand pips by the end of twenty six weeks. And that Doubting Thomas will have missed out on maybe one hundred thousand pips for himself by being so negative, and so "wise".

And here is the most amazing situation of all! Just in case you missed this post: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...14#post6932314

I find it most satisfying that as a real-time market analysis, PVSRA has outperformed an MM with twenty years of experience! This particular poster, also a non-Sonicer that dropped in to spout "higher wisdom", belittled PVSRA and the Sonicers using it. This poster, twenty years an MM, turned out to be dead wrong in his assessment of PVSRA, of Sonicers using PVSRA, and of the market! This self-confessed MM unwittingly provided the most absolutely amazing and thrilling testimony of the validity of PVSRA!

-tah
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