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  • #57,401
  • Aug 25, 2013 11:18am Aug 25, 2013 11:18am
Quoting traderathome
Lucifer is at it Again.....? Sonicers, I can see from some posts here (and lots of "Post Hidden Per Ignore.") that Lucifer must be at it again. Fine. But I myself, thanks to FF IGNORE, do not have to take in the garbage being dumped here. Let me remind all Sonicers that such posters attempting to detract from PVSRA, a real-time market analysis which is already proven to help traders be successful, do not themselves have any track record of their own to show! And when they use historical PA to make a point, well how many of us could show beautiful...
Readers, do you see how guru's work? They call anyone who opposes them "evil", "loser", or some other name. Gurus do not engage in the issues, they revert to ad hominum attacks almost immediately. We who question are evil, only tah and pvsra is good. He cannot engage on the merits of the system so he hides behind his congregation with calls to ignore dissenters.

This is cult like behavior.

Instead of refuting the points made, he writes another emotive diatribe calling for his followers to not read anything other than what he writes.

Newbies, do not be taken in by the concept of no losses. There is no way to engage in risk without loss. It is a fact of life.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #57,402
  • Aug 25, 2013 11:33am Aug 25, 2013 11:33am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} For the umpteenth time, PVSRA is NOT a trading method/system. It is only a method of study as to the building sentiment of the mm's. What you describe is a way of applying the study, and that can be a variety of methods. I understand you are making a reference to "someone's" personal method of application, but that isn't accurate. It has been stated over and over and over again, that PVSRA is not a trading method/system. Everyone here is allowed the freedom to utilize the study in any way they choose, and they have! You know, if we would...
It is a fallacy....tick volume can never tells whether institutions are bears or bulls. Now, if you are reading CME volume, then you might have a case.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #57,403
  • Edited 12:27pm Aug 25, 2013 11:50am | Edited 12:27pm
New Week!

Sonicers,

May I wish you all good trading this new week that will finish out the "Dog Days of Summer" month of August. No doubt the Trolls will be in attendance here (where else will they get their best signals?), but we can be assured by the increasing count of their postings that the Sonic R. System thread is doing better and better at what they cannot do,......produce succeeding traders!

BTW, Sonicers, have you noticed that one of our most persistent Trolls has increased his "yrs" of experience by two years, in just two weeks? Guess he gave himself extra credit for all his own bullshit!

Non-contributing, ill-intentioned, lying Trolls....

-tah
  • #57,404
  • Aug 25, 2013 11:54am Aug 25, 2013 11:54am
Quoting traderathome
New Week! Sonicers, May I wish you all good trading this new week that will finish out the "Dog Days of Summer" month of August. No doubt the Trolls will attend here (where else will they get their best signals?), but we can be assured by the increasing count of their postings that the Sonic R. System thread is doing better and better at what they cannot do,......produce succeeding traders! -tah
Averaging down does not require signals, no amount of you saying it is so will change that. No amount of you saying that questioners are trolls will change the fact that we are not.

You are not helping traders succeed. Sonic is, Islander is, Lucy is, but you tah most certainly are not. You are teaching newbies to average down. You enjoy the attention, nothing more, nothing less.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #57,405
  • Aug 25, 2013 12:34pm Aug 25, 2013 12:34pm
These trolls are so funny!....
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  • #57,406
  • Edited 2:17pm Aug 25, 2013 12:50pm | Edited 2:17pm
Many come here from many different backgrounds. Their own view of the market does not allow them to see or understand that the analysis that PVSRA provides. How you use the information is up to you.

They love to show that you would have had such a great draw down but fail to provide any analysis showing that you would have been on the wrong side of the trade. They do not understand that PVSRA gets you on the right side of the trade in the eventual trend. PVSRA shows when a liquidity provider (MM) start to build their hedge so they can keep providing liquidity in the market. They presume that the PVSRA is a counter trend analysis. This is as far from the truth as you can get. The only example they can give is a trade TAH took before PVSRA was even applied. Had we been using PVSRA then likely the EJ would not have suffered the draw down it is currently in.

I believe that Tah posts all his trades good bad or indifferent for all to see. Since PVSRA has been introduced there have been some incredible results that many of the traders in this thread have experienced. I can tell you that I have made more money in the last 3 months using the PVSRA analysis. This PVSRA has kept me from being on the wrong side of many big moves and got me on the right side of the trade. I have more than doubled my account in the last 3 months. So even if I have a 50% draw down I will be way more profitable than my previous style of only using the classic entry system.

It allows me to trade with confidence to enter and add to winning trades as well as trades that are under water. There are many stock traders that use dollar cost averaging in their portfolio and are very profitable. So please do yourself the favor and keep an open mind. You can change your life and free your mind and make a difference by doing your own research.

None of these posters that offer negative comments have provided any proof they are able trade profitably. Most money managers do not know how to trade they know how to move money and charge an management fee for their service. The fee is usually 2-5% of the gross investment yearly. They never lose as they are not the ones taking the risk. More often than not they are told what stocks to push so their company makes the money on management and also on the opposite side of the trade they are pushing.

CDO's are a perfect example of this skillful trading ability of these senior traders. They sell a product but are shorting the same product they are enticing their clients to buy. What crooks!! These MM's are crooks at heart and by lobbing to have banks become also the brokers have allowed themselves the ability to steal even more money with no checks and balances. Believe me the MM do not lose money on a trade. They may show you they are losing money but the money they are losing is usually the clients money. The whale trade is another good example. They talk about how much money they lost of their clients money but fail to discus who was on the winning side of that trade. Monies are not lost they are transferred to someone else. This is known as the transfer of wealth. PVSRA allows you take advantage of the markets greed to steel monies.
  • #57,407
  • Aug 25, 2013 1:17pm Aug 25, 2013 1:17pm
Quoting Lucy Furr
{quote} The answers are simply 1 page back.... 1. Bullish Yao Min Bar with big volume.. Why short? PVSRA! 2. Bullish Breakout Bar .. why short..?? PVSRA! Please remove the 'N' photo, its offensive and racist!
chill all ...
1 I sell right there deliberately. to ask me exactly why this short!
2.I will ask who buys there??? NOBODY here ....
  • #57,408
  • Aug 25, 2013 1:17pm Aug 25, 2013 1:17pm
thank you worldfreedom for this great post!
  • #57,409
  • Aug 25, 2013 2:42pm Aug 25, 2013 2:42pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
http://ntdtv.org/en/news/business/20...ousewives.html Gents, I am looking for a eb00k from Yukiko Ikebe.. Help me hunt.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kju2LaDarHg Thx. Sonic

This look like her stuff. I don't know japan just use google translate.
http://yukikofanclub.blog136.fc2.com/category2-1.html
http://yukikov.jp/v1kouza/
http://www.tradersshop.com/bin/showp...=9784775963043

If anyone that know japanese can confirm this please let us know.
  • #57,410
  • Aug 25, 2013 2:48pm Aug 25, 2013 2:48pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} It is a fallacy....tick volume can never tells whether institutions are bears or bulls. Now, if you are reading CME volume, then you might have a case.
Once again, you overlook the intent of a message and respond with an attacking mentality.

I really think you would benefit by re-reading all of your OWN posts to this thread.
You indicated to us that you would begin posting real-time trades that would
clearly show what you are espousing.

I only recall ever seeing one or two such postings, and those didn't show much
of anything. Then you seemed to have fallen into the void.

Now, all we hear from you is your "attack mode" garbage. Lucy Furr at least
makes an effort to back up his viewpoints with posts containing useful information.
He manages to get his point across without crossing the line of civility (although,
he does take it right up to the edge from time to time. You could learn from his
method of presenting his reasoning and thoughts.

You however, offer nothing but negativity, and it is truly tiresome. Sure, I could
put you on "ignore," but I shouldn't HAVE to. You are welcome to stay and
participate. It's a free thread. But please resist the urge to browbeat everyone.

Please, listen to this, carefully.........PLEASE.

You started your own thread to supposedly inform and teach others about your
trading methods. Stop wasting your time here with your senseless attacks, and
spend more time there providing your avid followers with your insight and wisdom.

  • #57,411
  • Edited 4:09pm Aug 25, 2013 3:27pm | Edited 4:09pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
{quote} Once again, you overlook the intent of a message and respond with an attacking mentality. I really think you would benefit by re-reading all of your OWN posts to this thread. You indicated to us that you would begin posting real-time trades that would clearly show what you are espousing. I only recall ever seeing one or two such postings, and those didn't show much of anything. Then you seemed to have fallen into the void. Now, all we hear from you is your "attack mode" garbage. Lucy Furr at least makes an effort to back up his viewpoints...
ArtfulDodger, and All Serious Sonicers,

Sonicdeejay started this thread to help others become successful in the forex market. That is the fundamental purpose of this thread. And we are succeeding, Trolls or no trolls. So, why give them the time of day? We produce more and more successful traders, while they produce what?

This is why the thrust of my posts regarding Trolls is what it is. I no longer bother to read their garbage. I have shut them down in my world by using the FF "IGNORE". You can do that too. And that is my message to all of you.

Ask yourself this question. Have any of these Trolls, any one of them at all, helped anyone here as much as we Sonicers have helped each other? So, why give them the time of day? They want you to read their posts. Why do you think they make their posts? To help us? Give me a break! If you read them, you feed them. SHUT THEM DOWN IN YOUR WORLD! And, BTW, let them know that is what you have done! That lets all other Sonicers know it, too.

One by one, sooner or later, all serious Sonicers will realize the truth about reading what these Trolls post; it will only pollute your thinking, resulting in your success being either delayed, limited, or terminated. Some serious Sonicers already have realized the truth of this. How long will it take you?

Sonicdeejay and I are all for the free exchange of valid information. Islander, worldfreedom, and other Sonicers have done this, and done this the prescribed way of this thread; the way of ongoing demonstration that best helps others. These Trolls do not, because they have nothing to offer, and they have no intention of demonstrating anything on an ongoing basis to help you.

How long will it take you to realize this, and SHUT THEM DOWN?

-tah
  • #57,412
  • Aug 25, 2013 3:51pm Aug 25, 2013 3:51pm
CHF-JPY Strong Volume 1min Time frame above whole number indicating bears are coming to play...
Pumps and Dumps
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  • #57,413
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:02pm Aug 25, 2013 4:02pm
Quoting ForexSwag
CHF-JPY Strong Volume 1min Time frame above whole number indicating bears are coming to play... Pumps and Dumps {image}
ForexSwag,

First off, I gotta say that I love your "GIMMIE LIQUIDITY".

Now, what makes this CHFJPY pair attractive? Is it not just like most all YEN pairs at this stage? And does it not have a higher spread (and maybe a smaller range, too)? What do you see is the advantage of it?
  • #57,414
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:08pm Aug 25, 2013 4:08pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} ForexSwag, First off, I gotta say that I love your "GIMMIE LIQUIDITY". Now, what makes this CHFJPY pair attractive? Is it not just like most all YEN pairs at this stage? And does it not have a higher spread? What do you see is the advantage of it?
Low spread and low margin.... It seems like a small pullback is starting off, I've never traded this pair before.
But it seems like every other Yen pair (Bearish)
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #57,415
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:11pm Aug 25, 2013 4:11pm
Quoting ForexSwag
{quote} Low spread and low margin.... It seems like a small pullback is starting off, I've never traded this pair before. But it seems like every other Yen pair (Bearish)
What is your spread? Your posted pic. showed 20 pips. I know it is not that high (weekend spread settings), or should not be. What is the spread for you? For me, the spread is too high (current fluctuation between 9-11 pips), and since the range is not nearly one of the best, I don't see the advantage. Just trying to understand. Maybe I am missing something else that you see, or a logic under current conditions that makes sense.
  • #57,416
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:15pm Aug 25, 2013 4:15pm
Yeah right now my spread is High 9.1... But London session is drops back down to 2.5 i believe, sometimes i see 1.9
But im in the process of switching brokers for a lower spread.
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #57,417
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:20pm Aug 25, 2013 4:20pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} What is your spread? Your posted pic. showed 20 pips. I know it is not that high (weekend spread settings), or should not be. What is the spread for you? For me, the spread is too high (fluctuation between 9-11 pips), and since the range is not nearly one of the best, I don't see the advantage. Just trying to understand. Maybe I am missing something else that you see, or a logic under current conditions that makes sense.
I never asked you this, what broker do you use?
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #57,418
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:24pm Aug 25, 2013 4:24pm
Quoting ForexSwag
{quote} I never asked you this, what broker do you use?
Several: Alpari (US), FXDD, FXCM, and always looking for tips that could lead to improvements.
  • #57,419
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:28pm Aug 25, 2013 4:28pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Several: Alpari (US), FXDD, FXCM, and always looking for tips that could lead to improvements.
FXDD Viking Trader i heard that was good? Low spreads 0-2
I'm using FXCM and Oanda at the moment but i want lower spreads, not that many options for US users.
Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #57,420
  • Aug 25, 2013 4:33pm Aug 25, 2013 4:33pm
Quoting ForexSwag
{quote} FXDD Viking Trader i heard that was good? Low spreads 0-2 I'm using FXCM and Oanda at the moment but i want lower spreads, not that many options for US users.
I seem to remember worldfreedom commenting on brokers a few months back, though I do not know if he mentioned anyone in particular that might help. Perhaps he will comment more on this, as he too is in USA.
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