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  • #56,781
  • Aug 18, 2013 10:00pm Aug 18, 2013 10:00pm
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} Sonicers do but you don't, not one post to show that you are one, fucking looser!
If the rules on page one are to be followed, then no, Sonicers do not average down. There is not one trade from sonicdeejay that indicates that he added to a loser( looser is to make things less tight, btw).

Islander and sonicdeejay follow the rules.

Btw, speaking of hedging, it is not a bad idea to use the Three Dragons concurrently with averaging down. It does take some skill to keep the order flow correct, but screen time and a demo account will fix that.

Another bad habit when it comes to averaging down is trading multiple pairs that are very closely correlated. Putting a dime lot on A/J, G/J, and E/J, is the same as putting 3 dime lots one any ONE of those pairs. If a trader does not pay attention to correlation, it will skew their risk profile, and that is another way to get burned, so be careful about that.

Joe
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,782
  • Aug 18, 2013 10:02pm Aug 18, 2013 10:02pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} If the rules on page one are to be followed, then no, Sonicers do not average down. There is not one trade from sonicdeejay that indicates that he added to a loser( looser is to make things less tight, btw). Islander and sonicdeejay follow the rules. Btw, speaking of hedging, it is not a bad idea to use the Three Dragons concurrently with averaging down. It does take some skill to keep the order flow correct, but screen time and a demo account will fix that. Another bad habit when it comes to averaging down is trading multiple pairs that...

So still no picture with EP form you, my point proven FUCKING LOOSER!
There is no spoon....
  • #56,783
  • Edited 10:21pm Aug 18, 2013 10:09pm | Edited 10:21pm
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} So still no picture with EP form you, my point proven FUCKING LOOSER!
Msis,

As I have some folks on Ignore, I am not following some of your posts. My suggestion is to put undesirables on Ignore. Do not read their posts and do not bother to mention them anymore. Some of them thrive on the attention they get. Deprive them of it.

The best thing that could happen is if all Sonicers put such people on Ignore. That means that only Sonic will be reading their posts. Let Sonic reply to them.

We have greater and more profitable things to do with our time.

-tah
  • #56,784
  • Aug 18, 2013 10:37pm Aug 18, 2013 10:37pm
GJ Comment

Interesting PVSRA. Previously a significant Pump & Dump at the whole number SR. Now, the early Asian session MMs used the 3/4 SR and DR1 for a Pump & Dump. I'd be suspecting the FO/LS MMs to also partake, but I wonder how much longer the MMs will support it while they build their short positions.
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  • #56,785
  • Aug 18, 2013 10:43pm Aug 18, 2013 10:43pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Msis, As I have some folks on Ignore, I am not following some of your posts. My suggestion is to put undesirables on Ignore. Do not read their posts and do not bother to mention them anymore. Some of them thrive on the attention they get. Deprive them of it. The best thing that could happen is if all Sonicers put such people on Ignore. That means that only Sonic will be reading their posts. Let Sonic reply to them. We have greater and more profitable things to do with our time. -tah
DONE!
There is no spoon....
  • #56,786
  • Aug 18, 2013 10:54pm Aug 18, 2013 10:54pm
UJ Comment

Continues to look bullish. I particularly like the the way the MMs just wacked the price below the half SR and pivot, and followed up with continued heavy activity at the extreme lows, and candles with long lower wicks, showing the MMs quickly pushing real deep to hit even more stops to get longs. PVSRA is so telling.

And this is another great example of why we don't use hard SLs. Instead, it was a good place for adding a long component.
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  • #56,787
  • Aug 18, 2013 11:07pm Aug 18, 2013 11:07pm
Hi Master Sonic R

Can you assist me to download the sonic CCI indicator ? I have been trying to configure it but I found out that the zip file does not contain the required .ex4 file to execute it ? or am I wrong. Please help

Thank you

SP
  • #56,788
  • Aug 18, 2013 11:16pm Aug 18, 2013 11:16pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} OOive, Your post, -tah
Thankyou,keep up the great work
  • #56,789
  • Aug 18, 2013 11:28pm Aug 18, 2013 11:28pm
Quoting Msis125125
{quote} So still no picture with EP form you, my point proven FUCKING LOOSER!
I have posted trades in the past, and will do so again in the morning. Since English is not your first language, if you are going to act out, at least do so competently. Looser is to make something less tight...I think you are trying to call me a "loser", but that is clearly not the case. See you in the morning.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,790
  • Aug 18, 2013 11:29pm Aug 18, 2013 11:29pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Msis, As I have some folks on Ignore, I am not following some of your posts. My suggestion is to put undesirables on Ignore. Do not read their posts and do not bother to mention them anymore. Some of them thrive on the attention they get. Deprive them of it. The best thing that could happen is if all Sonicers put such people on Ignore. That means that only Sonic will be reading their posts. Let Sonic reply to them. We have greater and more profitable things to do with our time. -tah

Thanks tah, that kid needs a timeout.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,791
  • Aug 19, 2013 12:44am Aug 19, 2013 12:44am
Quoting wingate
{quote} Arghhhhhhhhh What did I say...the blind leading the blind, unbelievable Dmitry have you not been paying attention this last 24 hours??? My advice to you is very simple, take a step back...forget about being led by the 'golden one' for a minute . Go back sloooooooooowly through your recent posts and you may just find the solution to a lot of your own self inflicted problems. Geeze i'm gradually loosing the will to live here P.s Hedging is not for the faint hearted, it can be used to your advantage but it takes great...
Traders from USA cannot hedge. FIFO rules.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #56,792
  • Aug 19, 2013 1:11am Aug 19, 2013 1:11am
Quoting qFish
{quote} Traders from USA cannot hedge. FIFO rules.
Traders in the US must have two different accounts, but we can hedge.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,793
  • Aug 19, 2013 1:34am Aug 19, 2013 1:34am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Traders in the US must have two different accounts, but we can hedge.

But Sir, how about the money and margin call in these accounts, if we have two different accounts ? If we can hedge in one account, we can reduce DD and avoid margin call.
Keep learning until you die :-)
  • #56,794
  • Aug 19, 2013 2:00am Aug 19, 2013 2:00am
High Volume 1Min NZD-USD Price pushed up to 81250 indicating bears
High Volume 1Min NZD-JPY Price pushed up to 74.50 indicating bears
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Creditors have better memories than debtors.
  • #56,795
  • Aug 19, 2013 2:26am Aug 19, 2013 2:26am
NU bears
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  • #56,796
  • Aug 19, 2013 2:42am Aug 19, 2013 2:42am
Quoting splee
Hi Master Sonic R Can you assist me to download the sonic CCI indicator ? I have been trying to configure it but I found out that the zip file does not contain the required .ex4 file to execute it ? or am I wrong. Please help Thank you SP
CCI is not in use anymore.
please refer to post 1 and READ through the first post and download the latest templates there.

Happy pips
Make pips, not war!
  • #56,797
  • Aug 19, 2013 3:28am Aug 19, 2013 3:28am
Quoting trihhnguyen
{quote} But Sir, how about the money and margin call in these accounts, if we have two different accounts ? If we can hedge in one account, we can reduce DD and avoid margin call.
That's where the inconvenience comes in, money has to be moved around, and it is cumbersome to do this. That's the idea, but it can be done.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #56,798
  • Aug 19, 2013 4:25am Aug 19, 2013 4:25am
Ok... I have been reading this thread from the time Sonic started it... initially it didnt interest me, but after PVSRA introduction, I saw the whole "analytic system" in a different light. For those who are locking horns over the draw down of this specific system​.. a few points to be noted on both sides.

1) Sonicdeejay - the creator - uses StopLoss. He finds comfort in doing so and limiting his risk. Thats his method of trading.
2) TAH - PVSRA leader - doesnt use SL, instead uses accumulation of positions and adding positions where he analyses volume. Thats his method of trading.

If someone wants to add a filter to PVSRA which can help reduce the drawdown they are more than welcome to do so. But just arguments lead us nowhere. Where there are ideas there are bound to be agreements and disagreements. If you have anything that can help better the system go ahead and share it. The drawdown is surely a case of concern but with proper MM that can be taken care of.... Over stacking can lead to a blown up account at some stage... hence I repeat stacking but sensible stacking can be practiced at own risk. Having said that its not reasonable for SONICrs with small account size to jump in and stack positions unless they know what they are doing.
JMN5611's suggestion of cutting down the drawdown is an apt one, but unless he or someone else or anyone for that matter comes up with a solution for it, everyone is either free to follow TAH's method or just use SL.
If you have viewed TAH's charts carefully all his entries were in profits at some stage after entry was taken, so even if you Break Even the order you wont have a huge DD.
Now the fact is that this thread is meant for SONICR's who can benefit in someway from each other and their methods of application of the various SONIC systems.. So just be constructive and post your solutions or analysis instead of arguments (which yield nothing). Posting Charts and Analysis is the best way to progress as a SONICr.
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  • #56,799
  • Aug 19, 2013 4:46am Aug 19, 2013 4:46am
3 dragons
gbpusd

a little late with the entry, the narrow range high volume bar marked with an arrow didn't result in any price move down, so those big bad boogie men called MM's.... are buyers!....trying to pick on all the little retail traders sitting at home...

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b/e

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done +3RR

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wonder how this high vol bar evolves for future price action?
  • #56,800
  • Aug 19, 2013 5:05am Aug 19, 2013 5:05am
Quoting max pain
Ok... I have been reading this thread from the time Sonic started it... initially it didnt interest me, but after PVSRA introduction, I saw the whole "analytic system" in a different light. For those who are locking horns over the draw down of this specific system​.. a few points to be noted on both sides. 1) Sonicdeejay - the creator - uses StopLoss. He finds comfort in doing so and limiting his risk. Thats his method of trading. 2) TAH - PVSRA leader - doesnt use SL, instead uses accumulation of positions and adding positions where he...
What great advise Max pain!!!! I have been trading a live acc for nearly two years, PROF TAH-PVSRA is the one that works for me. THANK YOU TAH for your PVSRA.
From a happy newbie, DD and all, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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