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  • #825,081
  • Aug 13, 2013 2:52pm Aug 13, 2013 2:52pm
Quoting USD-Bear
{quote} see Jeremy's answer. Think that will be 1.3 x par value 1.000
the bond futures trade 1.3 million contracts a day
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  • #825,082
  • Aug 13, 2013 2:54pm Aug 13, 2013 2:54pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} As the futs are 100k bonds and there is 1.3mil traded that means notional volume today was 1.3x10^11USD trade today.
ah, thanks
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  • #825,083
  • Aug 13, 2013 2:58pm Aug 13, 2013 2:58pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} Bush left a crash to happen in the first few months of Obama taking office. Obama will do the same.
Let a crash happen? I think is a bit more complex then that. Perhaps there is plenty of blame to go around like Greenspan and the easy money plan that inflated the housing market with shite mortgages or the firms that over levered beyond comprehension, skyrocketing commodities etc etc.Much of which looks to be repeating itself.

We live in a free market which the president has little control over. I mean we can regulate every little thing, but I don't think that is necessarily the best thing to do.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #825,084
  • Aug 13, 2013 2:58pm Aug 13, 2013 2:58pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} As the futs are 100k bonds and there is 1.3mil traded that means notional volume today was 1.3x10^11USD trade today.
that is 0.13 trillion for the 10y futures. how much is the cash bond?
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  • #825,085
  • Aug 13, 2013 2:59pm Aug 13, 2013 2:59pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} that is 0.13 trillion for the 10y futures. how much is the cash bond?
you can't get vol data as its OTC, I'm sure there are estimates somewhere though
  • #825,086
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:02pm Aug 13, 2013 3:02pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} that is 0.13 trillion for the 10y futures. how much is the cash bond?
Remember this is just the 10Y futures there are also IRS's and other swaps so its impossible to really accurately tell, but could be 10x the futures volume

Can't forget ETF's aswell
  • #825,087
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:09pm Aug 13, 2013 3:09pm
Quoting USD-Bear
{quote} betting against it, but everything is possible....
Just waiting for it to happen.
  • #825,088
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:21pm Aug 13, 2013 3:21pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} i hope it either go up or drop.
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  • #825,089
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:25pm Aug 13, 2013 3:25pm
Quoting FXMastermind
{quote} {image}
it has been hovering there too long. either go up so i can add shorts, or go down and i close my shorts.
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  • #825,090
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:27pm Aug 13, 2013 3:27pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} plus interest rate
??
  • #825,091
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:30pm Aug 13, 2013 3:30pm
Quoting 1candlepower
{quote} ??
does the government pay interest on top of the face value or not?
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  • #825,092
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:32pm Aug 13, 2013 3:32pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} does the government pay interest on top of the face value or not?
it seems like he is referring to zero coupons, even still a 3 month yields 0.0558% annualized so you get no interest anyway
  • #825,093
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:33pm Aug 13, 2013 3:33pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} Here is why I may buy some UST's this evening {image}
What impact does this have on the Euro?
  • #825,094
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:35pm Aug 13, 2013 3:35pm
Quoting JackRock
{quote} What impact does this have on the Euro?
higher r for USD = Higher USD = lower EURUSD
  • #825,095
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:38pm Aug 13, 2013 3:38pm
Quoting John Gray
{quote} Good luck with that, I'm trading the same way, looking at bearish reversal (USD turning bullish) taking USD/JPY up to 100
Next target 98.7. Then we looking at breaking upper TL of downward channel nice rejection yesterday of lower TL

EU also managed to "pierce" 1.33 will see how that plays out in the next daily candle
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #825,096
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:39pm Aug 13, 2013 3:39pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} does the government pay interest on top of the face value or not?
the gov does not pay interest as such ... it effectively pays interest "up front" in the form of discount when it allows you to acquire a T-Bill at a purchase price lower than the face value... there is a very similar explanation to my (admittedly long winded) blurb at: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/...lls_glance.htm

you don't get a coupon or interest check when you own a T-Bill - which makes for a very simple explanation
  • #825,097
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:40pm Aug 13, 2013 3:40pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} higher r for USD = Higher USD = lower EURUSD
leaving all things equal......

BUNDS H1:
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  • #825,098
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:41pm Aug 13, 2013 3:41pm
Quoting USD-Bear
{quote} leaving all things equal...... BUNDS H1: {image}
well yeah so long as eur interest rate dont rise by as much (normally use bunds) then USD will rise but as always ceterus paribus
  • #825,099
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:43pm Aug 13, 2013 3:43pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} it seems like he is referring to zero coupons, even still a 3 month yields 0.0558% annualized so you get no interest anyway
well, i didn't say it was good deal! but, yes exactly, there is no separate payment of any kind... i just chose T-Bills as an example because they are so simple to understand.
  • #825,100
  • Aug 13, 2013 3:44pm Aug 13, 2013 3:44pm
Quoting 1candlepower
{quote} well, i didn't say it was good deal! but, yes exactly, there is no separate payment of any kind... i just chose T-Bills as an example because they are so simple to understand.
yeah fair enough.
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