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  • #818,061
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:32am Jul 25, 2013 9:32am
Quoting ffleo
what went wrong, i cannot edit my own post?
this was what i got trying to edit my post:

Sorry ffleo, you don't have the credentials required to access this page. If you can't post to a certain thread, you might be blocked by the thread-starter (learn more). If you believe you have reached this notice in error, please submit a contact form.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #818,062
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:32am Jul 25, 2013 9:32am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} yup. waiting now on my hands. will take a short around 3250 with a tight stop (20 pips is my tight stop) to play the range. if it breaks 3250 and go north a little further, then i belive it is north bound.

if we got below 3064 and were here now. my s/l is high + spread +1.. atm this may be all that is needed also..
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  • #818,063
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:34am Jul 25, 2013 9:34am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} this was what i got trying to edit my post: Sorry ffleo, you don't have the credentials required to access this page. If you can't post to a certain thread, you might be blocked by the thread-starter (learn more). If you believe you have reached this notice in error, please submit a contact form.

not after 24h
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  • #818,064
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:35am Jul 25, 2013 9:35am
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} the same age-old problem... either not enough data to look in depth, or a completely distorted/even wrong point of view. for example... 3299 through the lense on January, 13th on H4. I'd always have chosen 3306 at least, never 3299... {image}

look on a h chart.... st
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  • #818,065
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:35am Jul 25, 2013 9:35am
Quoting uraceulose
{quote} SL to + 20
25% for me is less than $2500 right now..for those paying attention. All I mean, is trade within yourself.

G's 1% more than likely ='s more than my 25, his risk tolerance vs mine is probably totally different.
  • #818,066
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:36am Jul 25, 2013 9:36am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} this was what i got trying to edit my post: Sorry ffleo, you don't have the credentials required to access this page. If you can't post to a certain thread, you might be blocked by the thread-starter (learn more). If you believe you have reached this notice in error, please submit a contact form.
This happened while you were editing a post on this thread...? Interesting, this is an open thread so everyone is allowed as far as I know... Probably a bug... Contact Twee if it stays the same after a few attempts...
  • #818,067
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:45am Jul 25, 2013 9:45am
Hey guys, seeking your opinion. A couple of days back, when the german data was released, the EURUSD shot up and my SL got triggered but there was a slippage of 20 pips. The broker feedback that as they were not market makers nor dealing desks, the prices might slip if the market moved too fast during a news release. So what's your take? Would you still prefer ECN/STP or would it be MM/DD?
  • #818,068
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:47am Jul 25, 2013 9:47am
Quoting uraceulose
{quote} 25% for me is less than $2500 right now..for those paying attention. All I mean, is trade within yourself. G's 1% more than likely ='s more than my 25, his risk tolerance vs mine is probably totally different.
you should not tolerate a 25% drawdown. you would need a 33% gain to make even after a 25% loss. that is a diffrence of 8%. it is difficult even to make 8% in one trade. if you have two 25% loss in a row, you have only 56% left in your account. you would need two 33% gain to make it back.
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  • #818,069
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:48am Jul 25, 2013 9:48am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} look on a h chart.... st

What I don't understand is..the monthly chart you posted 'should' trump any hr/4hr charts. Not within a day necessarily but within a week or so.

So do you use the 4HR and less charts for ST trades and not worry about the confluence on the longer TF stuff?

Then use the longer TF charts to enter trades you're going to let ride and try to enter on a short term TF bounce?
  • #818,070
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:49am Jul 25, 2013 9:49am
Quoting math_GB
{quote} This happened while you were editing a post on this thread...? Interesting, this is an open thread so everyone is allowed as far as I know... Probably a bug... Contact Twee if it stays the same after a few attempts...

it must be a bug.
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  • #818,071
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:50am Jul 25, 2013 9:50am
Quoting Bullseye Jem
Hey guys, seeking your opinion. A couple of days back, when the german data was released, the EURUSD shot up and my SL got triggered but there was a slippage of 20 pips. The broker feedback that as they were not market makers nor dealing desks, the prices might slip if the market moved too fast during a news release. So what's your take? Would you still prefer ECN/STP or would it be MM/DD?
20 pips slippage with EUR/USD is pure bullshit when you have set an SL... German data caused a spike yes but it is an ordinary one, the usual brutal spikes happen during NFP release. I suggest you change your broker...
  • #818,072
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:56am Jul 25, 2013 9:56am
Quoting Bullseye Jem
Hey guys, seeking your opinion. A couple of days back, when the german data was released, the EURUSD shot up and my SL got triggered but there was a slippage of 20 pips. The broker feedback that as they were not market makers nor dealing desks, the prices might slip if the market moved too fast during a news release. So what's your take? Would you still prefer ECN/STP or would it be MM/DD?

it is a common pratce that some brokers widen spreads during major data and news release. they make money from spreads. but you cannot sue them because they do not have to put their own offers and bids there, just let retail traders trade against each other.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #818,073
  • Jul 25, 2013 9:59am Jul 25, 2013 9:59am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} it is a common pratce that some brokers widen spreads during major data and news release. they make money from spreads. but you cannot sue them because they do not have to put their own offers and bids there, just let retail traders trade against each other.
Still 20 pips spread with EUR/USD is nonsense... Bastards...
  • #818,074
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:00am Jul 25, 2013 10:00am
Quoting math_GB
{quote} Still 20 pips spread with EUR/USD is nonsense... Bastards...
The maximum spread I have seen in oanda was 6.5
  • #818,075
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:02am Jul 25, 2013 10:02am
Quoting math_GB
{quote} Still 20 pips spread with EUR/USD is nonsense... Bastards...
yup those bastards do not want to lose money. they may lose money with tight spreads during major data and news release. that is why most of them widen spreads in these events.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #818,076
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:10am Jul 25, 2013 10:10am
we can see 1.2950 next friday (august 2)
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  • #818,077
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:12am Jul 25, 2013 10:12am
Quoting uraceulose
{quote} What I don't understand is..the monthly chart you posted 'should' trump any hr/4hr charts. Not within a day necessarily but within a week or so. So do you use the 4HR and less charts for ST trades and not worry about the confluence on the longer TF stuff? Then use the longer TF charts to enter trades you're going to let ride and try to enter on a short term TF bounce?

i was just pointing out shit happens in this area over the years. . a few hundred pip drop is nothing here. the mid to 3739 is 3242 ish... so if 3164 is lost.. then 3074 is easily welcomed in pa no matter if its bullish or bearish in trend.. norm would go to 3085/97 before the smaller 3362/3418 target formation. and even if we do get below 3164... a trip back to 3214 is just normal before 3074...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #818,078
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:13am Jul 25, 2013 10:13am
Quoting uraceulose
{quote} 25% for me is less than $2500 right now..for those paying attention. All I mean, is trade within yourself. G's 1% more than likely ='s more than my 25, his risk tolerance vs mine is probably totally different.
if gator lose 1%, he can make it back with 1.01% gain in next trade.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #818,079
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:13am Jul 25, 2013 10:13am
Quoting davidsayli
we can see 1.2950 next friday (august 2) {image}
At exactly what time...? I go to the loo between 6:30 - 6:45 UK time and this happens every 4 hours after the first one. Please let me know so that I won't miss a thing...
  • #818,080
  • Jul 25, 2013 10:20am Jul 25, 2013 10:20am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i was just pointing out shit happens in this area over the years. . a few hundred pip drop is nothing here. the mid to 3739 is 3242 ish... so if 3164 is lost.. then 3074 is easily welcomed in pa no matter if its bullish or bearish in trend.. norm would go to 3085/97 before the smaller 3362/3418 target formation. and even if we do get below 3164... a trip back to 3214 is just normal before 3074...

So you are bearish atm - or atleast looking for bear setups ? 3242 is a bit rr though
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