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  • #49,121
  • May 19, 2013 9:14am May 19, 2013 9:14am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UJ Short Trade: Added short trades #9, #10, #11 and #12, Scouts. PVSRA M15 (not shown): The real pump got underway in the US session, first back above the half number, then all the way up thru the upper whole number, on which bar was the highest trading of the day. After seeing the pump up in the early London session to above the half number, followed by continued high trading, followed by a strong selloff from above the half number and which indicated SM remains a bear, I later added these Scouts in the US session. I previously told Sonic...
TAH
I know (and i myself follow your trades and enjoying ) that in the end you are wright. but yet I am not sure how you see that the MM bear
kindly could you show it in this last chart?could you elaborate?
Meirk
  • #49,122
  • May 19, 2013 9:16am May 19, 2013 9:16am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} I previously told Sonic I was finished adding to my YEN trades, but PVSRA on all the major YEN pairs was indicating SM remains a bear as SM pushed prices back upwards on them, and UJ received the best push of all. {image}
Serr...


If SM is a bear, price will show soon after... and it will start to show with its bearishness ..

Now we will patience and short and add shorts as the price declines...

No point... adding shorts as the price advance up... that is not good for our blood pressure..



Sonic
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  • #49,123
  • May 19, 2013 9:22am May 19, 2013 9:22am
Quoting meirk
{quote} TAH I know (and i myself follow your trades and enjoying ) that in the end you are wright. but yet I am not sure how you see that the MM bear kindly could you show it in this last chart?could you elaborate? Meirk

What do u see?

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Young girl or Old Woman..?

Reading chart has the similar affect...

Traders like to see what they want to believe... No one can predict 100% accuracy of the future/chart...
Traders should understand the both sides of the story and must have plan if the trade turn..

I would like to agree with Ser TAH about being bear but I would like to chart to show me further..

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Sonic
  • #49,124
  • May 19, 2013 9:50am May 19, 2013 9:50am
UJ looks so legit for next week

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  • #49,125
  • May 19, 2013 10:07am May 19, 2013 10:07am
Quoting sonicdeejay
For gene3.. Sonic {file} {file} {file} {image}
Gene3,
What i think that master Sonic is trying to show You is that the trend is down. You should look for set-ups on Short direction. Week is also Making a H-L-LH....
If You look for setups with trend in your favour, You will be increasing the odds of profits.

Ps: bulls Like to buy on down candles. Watch for price action on suports, trends, and round numbers, specially on lower tf.
The candle on pasta weekend is down with a relative increase of volume. You need to see what kid of volume is on it.
Is volume high cause bears are selling big time or the volume is high cause some bulls are buying are lower prices?
Next candles should show You the way...

Sorry master, just trying to Help and correct if i'm wrong.
If you don't know how to earn money, don't loose it.
  • #49,126
  • May 19, 2013 10:42am May 19, 2013 10:42am
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even if i'm wrong...


I started to post here without ASking permission, sorry to All sonicers, specially the creator honorable Master Sonicdeejay, and our great theacher, professor TAH.
Sorry to All,

After following the thread for quite long, i must say that the reason that sonicr beeing n.1 thread in the world is the quality of great traders and teachers that post here. And most of All the spirit then have on share their knowledge.
To All. Thanks.
I mean All, i'm including the cepticals, the critics person, the liyers, All of then cause even with then i can learn something.

Now, i must salute traders that take the guts to read and act on their readings. That's Step one to be a trader. ASking for opinions is to salute also cause show the willing to learn. In that way.... People that come here looking for signal service, will never be traders, they have sucess for a while but they need to learn on their otherwise faillure will have a meeting with them.

just don't blame a system cause of some drawdown, we must acept drawdowns and have the ability to learn and live with it. if you caN't handle losses.... you are on the wrong buzines.
Regard, and green pips to All.
If you don't know how to earn money, don't loose it.
  • #49,127
  • May 19, 2013 10:44am May 19, 2013 10:44am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Saw the movie. All this posturing and pretense made me sick. Just a total false display of feelings, attitude and intentions.
Intentions....

Yeap, the same as is behind the price manipulations by the MMs (Market Manipulators).

-tah
  • #49,128
  • May 19, 2013 11:29am May 19, 2013 11:29am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} What do u see? {image} Young girl or Old Woman..? Reading chart has the similar affect... Traders like to see what they want to believe... No one can predict 100% accuracy of the future/chart... Traders should understand the both sides of the story and must have plan if the trade turn.. I would like to agree with Ser TAH about being bear but I would like to chart to show me further.. {image} Sonic
Tah ' what do you see in the picture? bear or bull?
  • #49,129
  • May 19, 2013 11:39am May 19, 2013 11:39am
Quoting meirk
{quote} Tah ' what do you see in the picture? bear or bull?
Both, depending on whether I feel tired, or have just taken a dose of viagra!

-tah
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  • #49,130
  • May 19, 2013 11:48am May 19, 2013 11:48am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Both, depending on whether I feel tired, or have just taken a dose of viagra! -tah {image}
you are lucky
I don't see anything
  • #49,131
  • May 19, 2013 11:52am May 19, 2013 11:52am
Quoting meirk
{quote} Tah ' what do you see in the picture? bear or bull?
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Both, depending on whether I feel tired, or have just taken a dose of viagra! -tah {image}
Quoting meirk
{quote} you are lucky I don't see anything
Better to be blind than to see and succumb to sources of despair or temptation.

-tah
  • #49,132
  • May 19, 2013 11:54am May 19, 2013 11:54am
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  • #49,133
  • May 19, 2013 11:59am May 19, 2013 11:59am
Quoting coolmakina
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  • #49,134
  • May 19, 2013 12:01pm May 19, 2013 12:01pm
Quoting coolmakina
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  • #49,135
  • May 19, 2013 12:23pm May 19, 2013 12:23pm
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Seven Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), and averaging 67+ pips per all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all winners), averaging 67+ pips per all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per all parts. Week...

PVSRA rocks
congrats Prof. TAH for these results , I am following your PVSRA project , I started to apply on my live account 2 weeks ago , it is perfect , the only problem that I get always small returns for now cause I use 0.02 positions , but didnt have any single loss since then , would like to thank you for sharing and explaining the whole thing for all of us .

pls sonicers I tried to find the indicator which calculate the average open positions but failed , if any one can point me where to find it on this thread will be thankfull
back to square no one , over trading is my sin , never get the lesson
  • #49,136
  • May 19, 2013 12:33pm May 19, 2013 12:33pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} {image} where is your Breakeven price level? Maybe time to consider and plan to take some corrective measures/recovery trades and do some equity balancing trades. good time to do some reading over the weekend. {image}
The breakeven is shown as the average on chart. Not quite accurate as I have taken some profit by trading through the ranging period. I will be considering my strategy on these positions over the next week as I will be taking time out in a week or so. My concern is that smart money has indeed taken shorts and tested their ability to drive down the price have found strong support taken profits, taken price up again to have another go, again hit support and repeated. My guess is that at each shove down SM will be taking profits before driving up again I even reversing their positions. Whilst I have done some trading in the ranges it's not enough to cover this in its entirety. At some point if the drive down fails SM will simply drive the price substantially higher to get better shorts. This would fit with price action seen since April. I really need to see some deterioration in the trend of these pairs to be comfortable holding these. Annoyingly I have had a number of opportunities to take these positions out at good profit but got greedy and held. Lets see what the new week brings. I shall let the charts guide my actions.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #49,137
  • May 19, 2013 3:58pm May 19, 2013 3:58pm
Japan Economy Minister: “yen’s excessive strength has been largely corrected; further weakness could be harmful”

Source

I just can say... hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
To fail is just an opportunity to learn
  • #49,138
  • May 19, 2013 6:05pm May 19, 2013 6:05pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Serr... If SM is a bear, price will show soon after... and it will start to show with its bearishness .. Now we will patience and short and add shorts as the price declines... No point... adding shorts as the price advance up... that is not good for our blood pressure.. Sonic {image}

Sonic,

Obviously you do not agree with this PVSRA that SM is bear. Thank you for this reminder.
You always remind us that we should trade what we see on our charts and using the Weekly bias. The price behaviour and market structure has been bullish for months for Yen.
How can SM be bearish for that many months. Of course it will come a time when market will make a correction but we still do not know when the correction will be and how deep a correction. We also do not know when that correction will trun into a reversal.
If anyone believes PVSRA say SM is bear and SM drive price up to sell higher, and SonicR show bullish and Buy sentiments we should trade Buy and have your SL andf TPs properly set and trade the usual SonicR way using proper Money Management mentioned in Post#1. The EMA34 Dragon and EMA89 Trend has its own merits in SoncR system so why do we want to trade against it. After all, any moving average based system traded in trending market type and over a longer time period has proven to be profitable when we trade with proven money management and trade/exit management. Isn't this the core of SonicR system?

What we see is Abeconomics 101 is working for several months and if I may compare that with the financial crisis of 2008, the recovery of the Japan economy is on track now for phase one of Abeconimics 101.
So for all you believers of PVSRA and still think SM is bear, try think of what you would do if your belief is no longer true. Do you do the turnaround?

Do not forget there is s general disclaimer which is , this PVSRA is still an experiment. If PVSRA succeeds then nice and glory. If PVSRA fails then you will be told it was an experiment. However, whatever the end result is, we all learned about PVSRA and that is a future how you will use PVSRA experiment data and learning experince and incorporate that into yur own trading system.
Some can trade with $50 with micro lots to test this experiment and may make some money and grow your $50 account to $250 .... 5 times. But think iof when you would be trading with a $50,000 account and using mini or standard lots, will you play with your hard earned money in an experiment. If I trade with $50 and micro lots, I also do not care about drawdown nor margin call. I can top up the account everyday and have fun with an experiment.

Regards,
EMMANUEL
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #49,139
  • May 19, 2013 6:10pm May 19, 2013 6:10pm
  •  Ravelt
  • | Joined Feb 2013 | Status: The Closer You Look The Less You Se | 194 Posts
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} rino88au, I bet you have not heard of Abeconomics too. watchout next week, the effects of Abeconomics starts to wear .....as G7/G20 learn fast. Trade with Caution! EMMANUEL {image}
sir,

Could you please tell me what is abeconomics ?

Thanks
  • #49,140
  • May 19, 2013 6:17pm May 19, 2013 6:17pm
Quoting revoli
{quote} The breakeven is shown as the average on chart. Not quite accurate as I have taken some profit by trading through the ranging period. I will be considering my strategy on these positions over the next week as I will be taking time out in a week or so. My concern is that smart money has indeed taken shorts and tested their ability to drive down the price have found strong support taken profits, taken price up again to have another go, again hit support and repeated. My guess is that at each shove down SM will be taking profits before driving...
revoli,

thanks for clarifying this.
i hope other members reading this and your posted trade chart knows exectly what has been done.
I think you know how to do recovery trades and how equity balancing work... that's good.
Side way market condition is also opportunties to counter-act against many PVSRA losing positions. It is all about smart money management and smart position sizing strategies both use effectively.
Others may just follow the PVSRA experiment blindly and get their accounts blown without ever learning anything about how to trade the different market types.
Well done and thanks for sharing.

regards,
EMMANUEL
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
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