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  • #798,721
  • May 16, 2013 2:53pm May 16, 2013 2:53pm
Quoting attila
{quote} I'm sure you probably forgot all about this.. Look at both of them now.. And so it's not mainly about TL, s/r indis... Thinking is required unfortunately
Nope attila I've been following them since you mentioned it, and i noticed that spx went down a bit (first time since you posted it was still going up and you dont know why) and EU reacted instantly with 4-5 pips or so, then when the spx continued down EU went up (and was going up since...meanwhile spx going down), and just recently EU followed down. So I asked you if EU lags spx or they move simultaneously? Do they?
Mind you, my first name is Bad. ..."Nunc Id Vides, Nunc Ne Vides"...
  • #798,722
  • May 16, 2013 2:54pm May 16, 2013 2:54pm
Does anyone else have problems with TP's like me ? Like...bounces twice 1-2 pip away from TP....I get that so many times..and I lose 1-2 days for that particular TP. Geez...I need to fix my supports a little...
p.s. I try to raise TP few pips above suport anyway...
  • #798,723
  • May 16, 2013 2:55pm May 16, 2013 2:55pm
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Ok great. I've tried to be nice with you on your very first post, and help you out. Now it's time for you to be my personal muppet. Thanks for that, allow me to comment your future posts. Waiting for the next comment, on your market sentiment, you know when you said news were going to be good and send the dollar higher. Sorry fella, your sentiment about the market is total shit, you don't know anything about it, better be quiet and learn from the people in here (not from me i suck) You are just so stupid, can't help out with that PS : if...
http://www.forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=427916

Those are good news.

Dollar went higher.
  • #798,724
  • May 16, 2013 2:56pm May 16, 2013 2:56pm
Quoting attila
{quote} hey can you post that chart again? Was the h4 one you are talking about or it's a smaller TF? If it's the h4 one, don't worry, I'll go look it up..
here you are.
actually, there's all you need right in it. combined with proper (read: strict) mm, that shit is huuuuge
it just takes a lot of forgetting about anything else.

just note that norm hasn't been met, so tomorrow in all that turmoil, you'll likely read "should I hold? I'm in deep shit... wtf just happened."

I like them being met immediately, but then it would be too good to be true.

same goes for the often mentioned 3099. the longer it takes, the more people forget about it. it takes me a lot of paper and sticky notes... and I still stumble.
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  • #798,725
  • May 16, 2013 3:01pm May 16, 2013 3:01pm
Quoting The_Roman
Does anyone else have problems with TP's like me ? Like...bounces twice 1-2 pip away from TP....I get that so many times..and I lose 1-2 days for that particular TP. Geez...I need to fix my supports a little... p.s. I try to raise TP few pips above suport anyway...
do you base your tp on the same numbers you're doing the analysis with? spread considered?
  • #798,726
  • May 16, 2013 3:02pm May 16, 2013 3:02pm
Quoting Murdetrain
{quote} http://www.forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=427916 Those are good news. Dollar went higher.
Great, right after the fact, classic.

That's what you said right before the US news omme out.

Quoting Murdetrain
{quote} No lol its going to be going up, reports today for the u. S. Are going to be positive
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Quoting Murdetrain
{quote} Lmao And if you guys srsly think the u. S. Is going to have negative news then you have obviously not been paying attention to recent news and market sentiment which matters more than your technical analysis'
Please, stop acting as if you knew something about economic analysis or market sentiment, as you clearly don't.

You come here asking for advice, people actually tried to help you, but you didn't care.
And now you start the bashing process? The fun just started then.

Stick it to your chart, forget about the economic analysis, it's clearly NOT for you.
COT: The precious data ignored
  • #798,727
  • May 16, 2013 3:04pm May 16, 2013 3:04pm
Quoting attila
{quote} oh, the-vou-ches.. it's about the vouches, of course. here's concept for you to ponder on.. you want a vouch? earn it. I know you'll come back and say you don't want any.. all newbs want them. I did too..
Hahah that dude murde wants vouches, Id rather money.
  • #798,728
  • May 16, 2013 3:05pm May 16, 2013 3:05pm
Quoting sypherBG
{quote} Nope attila I've been following them since you mentioned it, and i noticed that spx went down a bit (first time since you posted it was still going up and you dont know why) and EU reacted instantly with 4-5 pips or so, then when the spx continued down EU went up (and was going up since...meanwhile spx going down), and just recently EU followed down. So I asked you if EU lags spx or they move simultaneously? Do they?
when you pour water from one container to another, does the first one empties and the second one gets full? which one happens first? I am not following each and every tick but I do pay attention when they start diverging FIRST after they moved together for a while... remember how e/u was going up and then there was a strong sell off at the top for 20 or so pips? spx kept on going up for a while (several minutes).. what happened after that is not really important. what's important is the spx always follows, and once they catch up, they'll start moving faster together in the initial direction of the e/u. It's just one more thing I'm looking at, and it's not the only one... In this case I gave it more weight because the day was driven by U.S. news and all the FED chatter on the wires..Can't build a strategy around this, that's for sure but it does help when things are unclear PA wise.
  • #798,729
  • May 16, 2013 3:07pm May 16, 2013 3:07pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} do you base your tp on the same numbers you're doing the analysis with? spread considered?
Yes, I do. I usualy reach it no problem. But I waste 1-2 days on bounces...And I usualy raise TP just for that reason 3-4 pips above targeted area. I'll need to raise it higher...so it seems
  • #798,730
  • May 16, 2013 3:09pm May 16, 2013 3:09pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} here you are. actually, there's all you need right in it. combined with proper (read: strict) mm, that shit is huuuuge it just takes a lot of forgetting about anything else. just note that norm hasn't been met, so tomorrow in all that turmoil, you'll likely read "should I hold? I'm in deep shit... wtf just happened." I like them being met immediately, but then it would be too good to be true. same goes for the often mentioned 3099. the longer it takes, the more people forget about it. it takes me a lot of paper and sticky notes......
As we sit at ADR distance from W levels above - prob a battle for these will come tomorrow.
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  • #798,731
  • May 16, 2013 3:09pm May 16, 2013 3:09pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
{quote} here you are. actually, there's all you need right in it. combined with proper (read: strict) mm, that shit is huuuuge it just takes a lot of forgetting about anything else. just note that norm hasn't been met, so tomorrow in all that turmoil, you'll likely read "should I hold? I'm in deep shit... wtf just happened." I like them being met immediately, but then it would be too good to be true. same goes for the often mentioned 3099. the longer it takes, the more people forget about it. it takes me a lot of paper and sticky notes... and...
Thanks man, I'll look at it for sure.
  • #798,732
  • May 16, 2013 3:11pm May 16, 2013 3:11pm
Quoting The_Roman
Does anyone else have problems with TP's like me ? Like...bounces twice 1-2 pip away from TP....I get that so many times..and I lose 1-2 days for that particular TP. Geez...I need to fix my supports a little... p.s. I try to raise TP few pips above suport anyway...
don't focus on the exact pip, better see it like a zone e.g 5-10-15 pips away from the level, ofc you need to have some bigger targets and not those 20-30 pippers if done that way..

focus on the meat instead...
Patience is a virtue...
  • #798,733
  • May 16, 2013 3:15pm May 16, 2013 3:15pm
Quoting hadox
{quote} don't focus on the exact pip, better see it like a zone e.g 5-10-15 pips away from the level, ofc you need to have some bigger targets and not those 20-30 pippers if done that way.. focus on the meat instead...
Yeah...I've forced myself to asume my trades as they are SL + TP to the end. I want to see green and only GREEN. And this exageration brings me to this kind of problems...2-3 pip away from TP, late 1-2 days. I need to fix it somehow..
  • #798,734
  • May 16, 2013 3:16pm May 16, 2013 3:16pm
Quoting attila
{quote} when you pour water from one container to another, does the first one empties and the second one gets full? which one happens first? I am not following each and every tick but I do pay attention when they start diverging FIRST after they moved together for a while... remember how e/u was going up and then there was a strong sell off at the top for 20 or so pips? spx kept on going up for a while (several minutes).. what happened after that is not really important. what's important is the spx always follows, and once they catch up, they'll...
I do not understand very well this corelation between spx and EU/USD. Pleae, explain it to me. So, when the SPX goes up, the EU/USD get the same direction? Or the currency moves first?
  • #798,735
  • May 16, 2013 3:19pm May 16, 2013 3:19pm
Quoting The_Roman
{quote} Yeah...I've forced myself to asume my trades as they are SL + TP to the end. I want to see green and only GREEN. And this exageration brings me to this kind of problems...2-3 pip away from TP, late 1-2 days. I need to fix it somehow..
do you have several targets?

that's a good way of locking in som cash, e.g scaling zones where you could take 20 % then 50%, and then the last 30% in case it's a runner..
Patience is a virtue...
  • #798,736
  • May 16, 2013 3:21pm May 16, 2013 3:21pm
Quoting Ambar
{quote} I do not understand very well this corelation between spx and EU/USD. Pleae, explain it to me. So, when the SPX goes up, the EU/USD get the same direction? Or the currency moves first?
how about spending some time and just watch both markets and make notes and learn, shit.... forgot it takes time, dedication and effort.
Now I want to know all that too.
Both are totally distorted, there is no corelation atm since equities are fueled by the fed, SP will not give you direction for euro dollar
swing it!
  • #798,737
  • May 16, 2013 3:24pm May 16, 2013 3:24pm
Quoting hadox
{quote} do you have several targets? that's a good way of locking in som cash, e.g scaling zones where you could take 20 % then 50%, and then the last 30% in case it's a runner..
Yes, i have many opened at same time for different lvls... I'll just have to raise TP's a little higher from support
  • #798,738
  • May 16, 2013 3:26pm May 16, 2013 3:26pm
Quoting attila
{quote} when you pour water from one container to another, does the first one empties and the second one gets full? which one happens first? I am not following each and every tick but I do pay attention when they start diverging FIRST after they moved together for a while... remember how e/u was going up and then there was a strong sell off at the top for 20 or so pips? spx kept on going up for a while (several minutes).. what happened after that is not really important. what's important is the spx always follows, and once they catch up, they'll...
Thank you for your complete answer.
The answer of your question is : The first one release the amount of liquid first, when the amount of liquid is enough to fill the space between the containers the second one gets filled. V2/t = V1/t - Vsp/t , where V2/t - is the volume in container 2 @ the moment t , V1/t - is the volume that left container 1 until the moment t and Vsp/t is the volume in the space between container 1 and 2 @ the same moment t
Mind you, my first name is Bad. ..."Nunc Id Vides, Nunc Ne Vides"...
  • #798,739
  • May 16, 2013 3:27pm May 16, 2013 3:27pm
Quoting Ambar
{quote} I do not understand very well this corelation between spx and EU/USD. Pleae, explain it to me. So, when the SPX goes up, the EU/USD get the same direction? Or the currency moves first?
Please read the post again. I don't use it all the time, only when certain things happen.. There is nothing in this world that will tell you for sure what will happen, or which way things will go...
  • #798,740
  • May 16, 2013 3:28pm May 16, 2013 3:28pm
Quoting The_Roman
{quote} Yes, i have many opened at same time for different lvls... I'll just have to raise TP's a little higher from support
problem solved then..
Patience is a virtue...
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