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  • #792,281
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:38pm Apr 28, 2013 1:38pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Lol Hadox. Percentage is everything. It is the most important part of trading, to make profit . At least thats what I´ve thought. Btw., wtf is "profit factor"?
ofc the most important part of trading is to make profit...

when you say you made x %, it means zero to me and everybody else, nobody know the size of your acc, your leverage etc ..
Patience is a virtue...
  • #792,282
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:44pm Apr 28, 2013 1:44pm
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} What profit factor says much more about your account size?

account size is irrelevant when talking about profit factor..

account size is relevant when talking about percentage in return..
Patience is a virtue...
  • #792,283
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:46pm Apr 28, 2013 1:46pm
Quoting hadox
{quote} account size is irrelevant when talking about profit factor.. account size is relevant when talking about percentage in return..
It's not gonna happen on a public forum.

So everything is irrelevant then, so are all the calls made in here.

We are just here to share ideas nothing else.
COT: The precious data ignored
  • #792,284
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:46pm Apr 28, 2013 1:46pm
Quoting hadox
{quote} ofc the most important part of trading is to make profit... when you say you made x %, it means zero to me and everybody else, nobody know the size of your acc, your leverage etc ..
You can talk about their profits as profit factor . But here, as most of the writing about profit in % or pips
  • #792,285
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:48pm Apr 28, 2013 1:48pm
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} It's not gonna happen on a public forum. So everything is irrelevant then, so are all the calls made in here. We are just here to share ideas nothing else.
agree 100%
Patience is a virtue...
  • #792,286
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:48pm Apr 28, 2013 1:48pm
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Gross profit / gross loss. 10k profit / 5k loss during the month = 2 profit factor So it doesn't say much more than percentage about how profitable you are. It just shows how "good" you are, highest profit factor means overall profit is far better than overall loss.
Damn, I have no loss this month. How do you divide my profits by 0? . Chach. No, am kidding, actually I´ve lost 1% cause I misclicked and sold 10 times more GBP than wanted, so closed trade immediately for loss. Really stupid fail. I ve also lost on that faking ride down after Chinese data, that was like 1,5%. Anyway, in that case, I ve made 10,5% and lost 2,5%, so profit factor 4,2. Dont know what does it tell about my account size though . Maybe I am stupid.
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #792,287
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:50pm Apr 28, 2013 1:50pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Damn, I have no loss this month. How do you divide my profits by 0? . Chach. No, am kidding, actually I´ve lost 1% cause I misclicked and sold 10 times more GBP than wanted, so closed trade immediately for loss. Really stupid fail. I ve also lost on that faking ride down after Chinese data, that was like 1,5%. Anyway, in that case, I ve made 10,5% and lost 2,5%, so profit factor 4,2. Dont know what does it tell about my account size though . Maybe I am stupid.
you just said it tom, it tells absolute nothing about your acc..
Patience is a virtue...
  • #792,288
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:51pm Apr 28, 2013 1:51pm
Quoting hadox
{quote} agree 100%
Good to know we are on the same page.

Wish you the best for the coming week...especially on thursday
COT: The precious data ignored
  • #792,289
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:55pm Apr 28, 2013 1:55pm
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} Good to know we are on the same page. Wish you the best for the coming week...especially on thursday
thx, and you too, it's going to be an important week that's for sure..
Patience is a virtue...
  • #792,290
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:57pm Apr 28, 2013 1:57pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Damn, I have no loss this month. How do you divide my profits by 0? . Chach. No, am kidding, actually I´ve lost 1% cause I misclicked and sold 10 times more GBP than wanted, so closed trade immediately for loss. Really stupid fail. I ve also lost on that faking ride down after Chinese data, that was like 1,5%. Anyway, in that case, I ve made 10,5% and lost 2,5%, so profit factor 4,2. Dont know what does it tell about my account size though . Maybe I am stupid.
Yes if no loss there is no profit factor...give me your secret

That's it, 4,2 profit factor or 8% of profit doesn't say anything....it means a lot to you, but not for the others. Anyway who cares about the others
COT: The precious data ignored
  • #792,291
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:58pm Apr 28, 2013 1:58pm
Yeh Hadox, I see you agree with Kuroro here. Percentage of my gains is the best you can get from me so you can evaluate how I trade. I am facking paranoid and cant imagine sharing my account size on public forum.

Besides, see my signature? I dont know nothing. See my alias? I am disgrace of trading. Everything I write here is utter nonscence. Do not listen to me.

Now imagine I am lying and actually not trading at all. In fact I am just a cleaner in Wallmart, making fun of you here.

T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #792,292
  • Apr 28, 2013 1:58pm Apr 28, 2013 1:58pm
Looking to sell EU near 3047 or in 3050's for 1,3000 and below, with 1,2920's in mind.
also will:
long UCAD at 1,0175 (seems it will open here) for 1,0300 and 1,0500's later
long NZDUSD at 8450 for 0,8600's and above
short GBPUSD at 5525 or 5560 for 5380, ( where I will start to look for longs again)
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  • #792,293
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:01pm Apr 28, 2013 2:01pm
eu at 1.3025..
Patience is a virtue...
  • #792,294
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:06pm Apr 28, 2013 2:06pm
so it looks like italy finally got a coalition gov't, must say that just the sight of berlusconi on the news report didn't inspire much confidence... also some greek parliamentary vote on austerity tonight to release bailout funds, wtf where have i heard that before,

anyways, e/u unchanged so far on oanda, since friday's closing price...
  • #792,295
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:18pm Apr 28, 2013 2:18pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
so it looks like italy finally got a coalition gov't, must say that just the sight of berlusconi on the news report didn't inspire much confidence... also some greek parliamentary vote on austerity tonight to release bailout funds, wtf where have i heard that before, anyways, e/u unchanged so far on oanda, since friday's closing price...
IMO it means these news not strong enough and make an innuendo eu looks up
  • #792,296
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:23pm Apr 28, 2013 2:23pm
Quoting magicgate
{quote} IMO it means these news not strong enough and make an innuendo eu looks up
well okay, but conversely you could argue that an end to political uncertainty in one of the ez's core countries should create euro strength, and yet nothing...
  • #792,297
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:26pm Apr 28, 2013 2:26pm
sooo my broker closed for another half hour, just time for another episode of walking dead season 3...
  • #792,298
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:27pm Apr 28, 2013 2:27pm
Quoting Likerty
{quote} Thats an eternal quastion! Like, who came first chicken or egg.. Who put number Pi? - it just is... Why price turns at 200% it just does.. Facebook didnt had historic pa, but still.. turned where it supposed to isnt it? Why price turns at UM or LM? Prob because it is the first level after the middle. As soon as it crosses the middle - odds becomes in favor, like in casino roulette game - 52.7% (or what ever that number is) is all it needs to be profitable. These probabilities drives the markets, thats how mindset of the majority...
what i was saying was,, you have an earlier way to figure where the fibs will be. if you wait for the close, you lose valuable time and movement. most times the fibs will fall within just a few pips of the pa indicated levels.. but pa will show this before the fibs.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #792,299
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:28pm Apr 28, 2013 2:28pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
{quote} well okay, but conversely you could argue that an end to political uncertainty in one of the ez's core countries should create euro strength, and yet nothing...
Certainty, I am looking to load my eu shorts this week, still have no clear chart, may be tommorow
  • #792,300
  • Apr 28, 2013 2:28pm Apr 28, 2013 2:28pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Yeh Hadox, I see you agree with Kuroro here. Percentage of my gains is the best you can get from me so you can evaluate how I trade. I am facking paranoid and cant imagine sharing my account size on public forum. Besides, see my signature? I dont know nothing. See my alias? I am disgrace of trading. Everything I write here is utter nonscence. Do not listen to me. Now imagine I am lying and actually not trading at all. In fact I am just a cleaner in Wallmart, making fun of you here. T

damn, and I was thinking that understanding something ...
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