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  • #787,821
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:42pm Apr 15, 2013 3:42pm
Quoting 1candlepower
the first part is easy to understand. i see no conspiracy there. i'm talking about what happened AFTER 1430 est. the timing is just way way too much of a coincidence.... no terrorist acts of any real visibility for months in this country... and then within a key time frame of minutes!!!!!!!!!!!! i don't buy the idea that there's no connection.
wow! did they change the time of the marathon? and then bomb it to fit the conspiracy, at the time needed?
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  • #787,822
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:43pm Apr 15, 2013 3:43pm
Quoting 1candlepower
my point is the accuracy of the timing. just too much to be coincidence.
No such thing. A news leak of something? Maybe, but it's not manipulation just a head start. You could have easily traded this. We don't make markets, we trade markets.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,823
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:43pm Apr 15, 2013 3:43pm
Quoting gammase1
well said... to think this is some sort of hunt on the stops of retail traders is absurd
again, i rest my case on the timing: NOTHING for months... then, within MINUTES... no, i say that's not a coincidence.

i'm just saying (and i'm sure i'm not the only one) this possibility should be investigated.
  • #787,824
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:43pm Apr 15, 2013 3:43pm
Quoting gatorinla
what we believe has little to do with making money
ah come on its not like that
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
  • #787,825
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:44pm Apr 15, 2013 3:44pm
Exited short @ 58 +20

Reason PA went above 5 SMA.

Next existing short @ 1.2990 which is withing Price Saturation Zone so will stand down at this level.

Will re short higher.
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  • #787,826
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:47pm Apr 15, 2013 3:47pm
Moving Average Model update

Updating our rudimentary moving average model it's not that much of a surprise that its shifted back from long to square (our model has 15 components so -1/+1 is square) The model will go -1 unit EUR/USD on a daily close below 1.3074, a close above will be +1. The surprising thing about it, is that it's a long term component that keeps pirouetting plus or minus 1. The 144 DMA is what's causing the problem, whereas our other long term M/As, 200-DMA and 55-wks do not turn until 1.2912 and 1.2894 respectively."Normal" for the blended model is 1.2660/1.3260 which gives us an insight into market balance, we are closer to overbought than oversold for M/As between 24-hrs to 55 weeks
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  • #787,827
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:48pm Apr 15, 2013 3:48pm
Quoting Pip Anon
No such thing. A news leak of something? Maybe, but it's not manipulation just a head start. You could have easily traded this. We don't make markets, we trade markets.
i saw price pause, and for a number of reasons considered a small fade (which i did and made a very quick profit) as others did and took large long positions... but timing was too tight --UNLESS YOU KNEW WHAT WAS TO HAPPEN, OR EXTEND PROFITS ON SHORT RISK PAIRS -- i got the news almost immediately on sqwauk... it was too late to open from a good seat.

again: my argument centers on TIMING ----- and the only thing i'm really saying is this possibility should be part of a criminal investigation. and i'm sure it will be.
  • #787,828
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:49pm Apr 15, 2013 3:49pm
Another trader asked me about Gold buy levels.

I get a daily newsletter from Stewart Thompson who manages a butt load of money he is heavy into gold. These are his levels. I had to do some digging to find the right newsletter from last week and line item. The "chimps" are the Banksters

16. A range pgen between $1000-$2000, with a focus on $1923, $1800, $1577, $1432, $1305, $1266/$1225, $1105, and $1033, is exactly how the chimps would handle themselves in this market, if they were in your position now.
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  • #787,829
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:51pm Apr 15, 2013 3:51pm

  1. EUR/USD selling accelerated on North Korea threats, Boston blast
  2. Earlier attempt to rally the pair ended after spike up near 1.3110
  3. Draghi drove that by saying OMT intervention would be ex-ante unlimited
  4. Risk soured as commodities continued slide from last week
  5. Break of 1.3030 puts 1.3000/05 (10 DMA, April 9 low) in play

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  • #787,830
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:51pm Apr 15, 2013 3:51pm
Quoting 1candlepower
i saw price pause, and for a number of reasons considered a small fade (which i did and made a very quick profit) as others did and took large long positions... but timing was too tight --UNLESS YOU KNEW WHAT WAS TO HAPPEN, OR EXTEND PROFITS ON SHORT RISK PAIRS -- i got the news almost immediately on sqwauk... it was too late to open from a good seat. again: my argument centers on TIMING ----- and the only thing i'm really saying is this possibility should be part of a criminal investigation. and i'm sure it will be.
you are being a prize muppet... and sounding like somebody that lost on a long....

at every price point somebody buys somebody sells, some win some lose

sometimes prices end where you think sometimes they don't

sometimes fades work sometimes they don't
  • #787,831
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:53pm Apr 15, 2013 3:53pm
Quoting 1candlepower
i saw price pause, and for a number of reasons considered a small fade (which i did and made a very quick profit) as others did and took large long positions... but timing was too tight --UNLESS YOU KNEW WHAT WAS TO HAPPEN, OR EXTEND PROFITS ON SHORT RISK PAIRS -- i got the news almost immediately on sqwauk... it was too late to open from a good seat. again: my argument centers on TIMING ----- and the only thing i'm really saying is this possibility should be part of a criminal investigation. and i'm sure it will be.
I can't agree. The market offers many opportunities. That's like saying people who made money today were either retail insiders or a fluke? Yen pairs down 3-400 pips. I am sure there were plenty of entries. A lot of this moment was set up last night with Chinese data points.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,832
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:55pm Apr 15, 2013 3:55pm
Quoting gatorinla
i did close some.. looking to reload some on bounce. getting to 2934.5 w/o a hh is almost a 80% probability .. 30000.x is still a one means target .. the problem is 2909 is a real # between target on a much larger tf
3091.6 is a small bull wave w/o a LL, if completed,, mid for at at 3063.. no bulls w/o 3092 and a HH..
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  • #787,833
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:55pm Apr 15, 2013 3:55pm
Quoting Pip Anon
I can't agree. The market offers many opportunities. That's like saying people who made money today were either retail insiders or a fluke? Yen pairs down 3-400 pips. I am sure there were plenty of entries. A lot of this moment was set up last night with Chinese data points.
finally

and to add look at any of the pairs and they are all within easy retrace limits even gold as I posted this morning
  • #787,834
  • Apr 15, 2013 3:56pm Apr 15, 2013 3:56pm
Pipnography for Pip Pervs


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  • #787,835
  • Apr 15, 2013 4:02pm Apr 15, 2013 4:02pm
I had 10 pip spread. I don't know if its becase its late or the bombing stuff.
"You're solid gold, see you in hell"
  • #787,836
  • Apr 15, 2013 4:02pm Apr 15, 2013 4:02pm
Quoting MaxDoom
finally and to add look at any of the pairs and they are all within easy retrace limits even gold as I posted this morning
Lol I only have a fraction of the experience many of you have, but I absolutely hate excuses. If he caught the ride down there wouldn't be any manipulation woes.

I posted a video a week or two back of some guy getting his face ripped off and kept blaming the markets.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #787,837
  • Apr 15, 2013 4:02pm Apr 15, 2013 4:02pm
Quoting gatorinla
wow! did they change the time of the marathon? and then bomb it to fit the conspiracy, at the time needed?
i know only one thing: when something happens say twice a year (don't know the exact statistics) but the actual timing of an event has the power to make some individual or group millions in a few moments... i stop and think.

lesson in probability: if something happens on average once every 6 months and will exert some meaningful effect if it occurs over a time frame of 15 minutes, then what is the probability that it will happen once at a given time during a 6 month period? that would be simply 1 divided by the number of possible time frames, which = 1/17,280** (there are ~ 17,280 15 minute time frames in 6 mo)

so, the probability of this happening the way it did by pure chance is 1 in 17,280. when so much money could be at stake - i'm not ready to buy that it was an accident of timing without question.

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** i know this could be gone into in more detail, but this is the basic idea.
  • #787,838
  • Apr 15, 2013 4:03pm Apr 15, 2013 4:03pm
Reports a suspect has been identified and is under guard
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  • #787,839
  • Apr 15, 2013 4:06pm Apr 15, 2013 4:06pm
Quoting Vtmn
Reports a suspect has been identified and is under guard
Seems like he's from Saudi Arabia...I guess they'll invade Iran now.
  • #787,840
  • Apr 15, 2013 4:08pm Apr 15, 2013 4:08pm
Quoting 4exNinja
Seems like he's from Saudi Arabia...I guess they'll invade Iran now.
Or not and let that shit keep happening. I don't promote war, but if bombs lit up Britian you'd take it in stride?
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
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