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  • #44,901
  • Edited 2:40pm Mar 15, 2013 2:17pm | Edited 2:40pm
EU, GU and EG Comment:

Interesting situations can occur towards the very end of trading on Fridays. This is a time of low activity and when it is therefore easiest for the MMs to manipulate prices to where they want them; to position prices optimally for them and for going into the next week of trading (optimally= barring and gap decisions they might subsequently make, due to "whatever").

With GU in an uptrend now, the MMs are working the price back lower to a previous consolidation level. With EG recently moving down as GU moved up and EU bounced around sideways, the MMs are working the price back higher towards a local S&R area above the half number.

Such very-end-of-the-week moves put on by the MMs, when everyone else has stopped trading for the week, are a strong indication of where the MMs want the prices to be. From this clue and past price action, we can better discern what the MMs might have up their sleeve for the upcoming week. If they move prices down, they are most likely bullish. If they move prices up, they are most likely bearish. The MMs move prices to where they can close existing positions and/or open opposite positions. A move to higher prices means the MMs are closing longs and/or opening shorts. A move to lower prices means the MMs are closing shorts and/or opening longs. This is not an exact science, and certainly any situation can change suddenly and dramatically due to "whatever".

The MMs appear to remain bullish GU and bearish EG. The late in day move up on EG simply resets the price near the Daily H&S neckline, which is definately still in-play. And once EG starts to drop, either GU is soaring or EU is plummeting, or both! The MMs are still playing with EU, up and down action which I take as nothing more than price manipulation and the utilization of time by the MMs to build bigger short positions. Note that price has been allowed up since the lows of yesterday. This looks suspiciously like the MMs are ochestrating the price to induce more longs to come to the party, which may turn out horribly for those accepting the invitation. The EU daily H&S formation is also still in-play, and it promises a huge plummet!


-tah
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  • #44,902
  • Mar 15, 2013 2:46pm Mar 15, 2013 2:46pm
Quoting traderathome
The Sonic R. System Basics:

Sonicers,
Nothing has changed. The basics are what they always have been. Here is a rundown of them.

Wave - Price action must form a "wave". In time you will learn good from bad, but the essence of the wave is long= L-H-HL and moving to HH, and short= H-L-LH and moving to LL. Smooth PA waves tend to be better than ragged ones. Waves that have the first of the three legs of the wave crossing thru the Dragon tend to be better than those that don't.
-tah
Thank you very much for your efforts and further explanations Professor.
I'm translating all to Spanish, I'll send you one copy by PM for consideration of you and Sonic in order to place it in post #1 for Spanish sonicers.
  • #44,903
  • Mar 15, 2013 3:27pm Mar 15, 2013 3:27pm
Greetings all. I am having a hard time understanding this wave pattern for some reason. Today was the first time I tried trading with the system and the pair I was looking at was AUDUSD. The others had broken out already prior to the US open. If you view my attached screenshot it would seem like there were 3 entries. I marked them with vertical lines. I took the entry in the middle, but got nervous when price closed back under the MAs so I closed for a small loss. Third entry, in green, of course took off without me an I know it is simply because I do not get the wave pattern. I saw another user post a picture today of the exact trade I missed out on, I think it was TAH.

Anyway, can someone please try to help me understand these entries better? I noticed a few of you trade without any of the indicators at the bottom, which is my preference too as I am a price action trader on 4hr and daily charts. Thanks.
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  • #44,904
  • Mar 15, 2013 11:58pm Mar 15, 2013 11:58pm
I am looking to start learning this system...

A few questions:

Where can I start to learn this Post 1? Which version should I download? Is there a post that explains the updated system?
SonicR.zip
SonicRV2.zip
5steps.pdf
SonicRV3.zip
Sonic R By GuruKris.rar

Is anyone trading real live money using this system and making money?

Also has anyone tried Post# 44,868 EA?

An EA accordingly the rules from Sonic R system.

Rules applied were

Long when:
- Price above EMA 89
- Price crosses above EMA 34 High
- CCI Value Above 0

The backtest result was in positive amount and good winning rate, try test it yourself.


Please let me know. Thanks.
  • #44,905
  • Edited 1:18am Mar 16, 2013 12:57am | Edited 1:18am
The less is more..




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Sonic
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  • #44,906
  • Mar 16, 2013 2:43am Mar 16, 2013 2:43am
[quote=GoGoGold;6517450]GU a valid re-entry long setup appear to me.[/quot

Yup very good system but need some update even the first explanation seem confusing been 4 years trading a still do not understand some entry are out the boundary??????? some explanation should be explain why the trade has been taking forex hes not a gamble just professional approach.
  • #44,907
  • Mar 16, 2013 5:44am Mar 16, 2013 5:44am
Hi Sonicers, this is GU chart of this week. I'd like to know your advice about the best entry in this situation. do I look for short entry on the wave that's showen on blue box (top of 4H channel) or should I wait for 3rd leg to go out of 15M channel?

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  • #44,908
  • Edited 9:20am Mar 16, 2013 6:57am | Edited 9:20am
So long I have not post anything here.
But I am still FUN of naked trading by S/R zones and PA patterns.
Here is my weekly analyizing of EU.
So, will see what will happend next week.
http://content.screencast.com/users/.../week11_EU.png
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #44,909
  • Mar 16, 2013 10:19am Mar 16, 2013 10:19am
Quoting sdamos
Greetings all. I am having a hard time understanding this wave pattern for some reason. Today was the first time I tried trading with the system and the pair I was looking at was AUDUSD. The others had broken out already prior to the US open. If you view my attached screenshot it would seem like there were 3 entries. I marked them with vertical lines. I took the entry in the middle, but got nervous when price closed back under the MAs so I closed for a small loss. Third entry, in green, of course took off without me an I know it is simply because...
sdamos, the first wave has EP before the London session. You don't see this because you are not using the latest released indicators/templates, available via the very first link in the very first post.

Note that the second "wave" has as its first leg a single candle that spans from the low to the top edge of the Dragon. This is ok, but the second leg back down is also a single candle! And this "leg #2" candle did not actually start at the end of leg #1 of the wave! This is not the best of waves. It is ill formed and very tight. Nevertheless, patterns like this frequently run well. Had you entered with a SL below the start of the first leg, you would have done ok.

The third wave is was obviously the best because it is spread out, formed of many candles. This is a situation where the first leg of the wave crossed up thru the Dragon from well below it to well above it in a smooth procession of candles, a smooth procession that was repeated in the second leg going back down. And it is ok that first candle of the third leg bolts all the way back up thru the Dragon. It simply confirms that after all those TFs where the MMs moved the price up and down building their long positions, they were ready to start the Mark Up drive.

Hope This Helps,
-tah
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  • #44,910
  • Mar 16, 2013 10:37am Mar 16, 2013 10:37am
Quoting b-aniss
Hi Sonicers, this is GU chart of this week. I'd like to know your advice about the best entry in this situation. do I look for short entry on the wave that's showen on blue box (top of 4H channel) or should I wait for 3rd leg to go out of 15M channel?
Tear up your chart and start a new one when next week is underway.

The last hours on Friday can sometimes provide a clue as to the intent of the MMs going into next week, but here is where PA swings wide both ways during the last hours on Friday, so it can only be a 50-50 guess if the MMs are bulls or bears. If you look at the Daily chart, you might see support for the idea price might next go lower a bit, a pull back to the climb from the bottom. However, that should also have you thinking that if price does go down then maybe the better trade would be to wait and go long off that pullback. The bottom line is do you see this as having been spanked enough and now onto recovery upwards, or do you think the move up late last week was just a pullback itself, in a down trend that is going to continue?

If you are not sure, that is ok. We don't predict PA, we trade it. Which gets us back to the basic point. Throw your chart away and start fresh next week trading whatever the MMs decide to do then, but that also satisfies the Sonic R. System.

-tah
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  • #44,911
  • Mar 16, 2013 10:47am Mar 16, 2013 10:47am
Quoting Veracruz
Thank you very much for your efforts and further explanations Professor.
I'm translating all to Spanish, I'll send you one copy by PM for consideration of you and Sonic in order to place it in post #1 for Spanish sonicers.
Veracruz, thank you for your efforts also.

I recommend you just post your work (include the charts) here on the thread. Master Sonicdeejay can then decide if to include a section in Post #1 that calls attention to this latest effort, and include links to both the English and Spanish versions.

-tah
  • #44,912
  • Mar 16, 2013 2:23pm Mar 16, 2013 2:23pm
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  • Mar 16, 2013 2:24pm Mar 16, 2013 2:24pm
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  • #44,914
  • Mar 17, 2013 5:50am Mar 17, 2013 5:50am
Quoting Veracruz
Thank you very much for your efforts and further explanations Professor.
I'm translating all to Spanish, I'll send you one copy by PM for consideration of you and Sonic in order to place it in post #1 for Spanish sonicers.

We already have one in Spanish but of course..I do not mind another one..


Sonic
  • #44,915
  • Mar 17, 2013 6:45am Mar 17, 2013 6:45am
So the Music has stopped..


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  • #44,916
  • Edited 11:04am Mar 17, 2013 10:54am | Edited 11:04am
Quoting sonicdeejay
We already have one in Spanish but of course..I do not mind another one..


Sonic
Sonic, this is about the very extended comments I wrote about the fact that the Sonic R. System has not changed. Please see my rather long post this weekend (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...25#post6518525). I put a lot of work into it to answer this recurring question. Veracruz duuplicated it in Spanish. My post and his post (if he makes one) and his .pdf doc might be a worthy addition to your first post. Maybe you label my topic "The Sonic R. System Basics" as something supplemental to the Sonic R. System Manual (In Brief) as "For Those Too Lazy to Read the Manual"......

BTW, at this point of continually seeing newbies posting with the original (antique) templates and indicators, if you still think they should be a part of post #1 then I strongly urge you to add a comment just above them that says they are the originals, but that they are replaced by those available via the very first link in post #1. That will be a fair warning to all that are initially tempted to use the antiques because they haven't read anything in the post at all, but being lazy just went to the bottom looking for downloads!

-tah
  • #44,917
  • Edited 11:18am Mar 17, 2013 11:13am | Edited 11:18am
Quoting sonicdeejay
So the Music has stopped..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zn2dHEOK8M
Wow! If I understood this correctly, the proposal is to tax deposits of 100,000 or more at 10% and smaller accounts at 6.5%. That is like "Hey, you get no interest by depositing your money here, and in fact we are going to take much of it each year as a fee!"

The super-rich probably already have extracted their wealth. Probably carrying it around in golf bags in the backs of their Mazeraties. The rest of the folks, "the little people" as the arrogant rich in England term it, will suffer yet another shearing!

I don't understand why the politicians can't swing their balls around on this and come up with a better solution to increase liquidity. All they have to do is pass into law that those earning less than $100,000 pay no taxes at all. Those between $100,000 and one million pay an increasing scale tax. And those that make 1 million and more pay everything in excess of 1 milliion as a tax, every year for the next ten years! That would do it.

Oh, and as an additional measure to repatriate monies to the governments, a one time tax of 25% of "estate value" on everyone worth 10 million or more!

-tah
  • #44,918
  • Mar 17, 2013 1:29pm Mar 17, 2013 1:29pm
USDCAD
maybe it will happen !!!!!???
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  • #44,919
  • Edited 2:18pm Mar 17, 2013 2:08pm | Edited 2:18pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
We already have one in Spanish but of course..I do not mind another one..
Sonic
Attached the magistral lesson given by professor Tat on post #44900 pag # 2994 translated to Spanish with some clarifications points for new spanish sonicers.

Sharing is Caring.

Many thanks Tat and Sonic.
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  • #44,920
  • Mar 17, 2013 2:31pm Mar 17, 2013 2:31pm
Quoting traderathome
Wow! If I understood this correctly, the proposal is to tax deposits of 100,000 or more at 10% and smaller accounts at 6.5%. That is like "Hey, you get no interest by depositing your money here, and in fact we are going to take much of it each year as a fee!"

The super-rich probably already have extracted their wealth. Probably carrying it around in golf bags in the backs of their Mazeraties. The rest of the folks, "the little people" as the arrogant rich in England term it, will suffer yet another shearing!
-tah
Keep in mind that Cyprus has a special status within European Union, and is working in some aspects like a Tax Heaven Country inside the EU.
In fact, many of the Investment Companies and Big Fortunes have their savings in Cyprus. And many international companies has Ghost Companies mainly from Russia and others non economic regulated countries like a way of being able do business without to have to pay any Tax.

And curiously many Forex Brokers has their headquarters settle down in Nicosia. It allowed them offering themselves like European Broker under EU regulations but with Fund Deposits in a Tax Heaven.

Similar situation that Luxembourg as a semi Tax Heaven Country. But in that case Luxembourg doesn't need to be rescued
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