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  • #17,081
  • Mar 4, 2013 4:59am Mar 4, 2013 4:59am
The markt have no direktion today. Only one pending sell order that is no execute....

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #17,082
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:03am Mar 4, 2013 5:03am
Quoting Evaluator
The markt have no direktion today. Only one pending sell order that is no execute....

Evaluator.:nerd:
fantastisch.. zero from zero is infinity right?

is your pending still open or have you closed it?
  • #17,083
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:06am Mar 4, 2013 5:06am
Quoting fugly
first trade took a loss -15pips my fault i got in late, otherwise its actually a BE trade, next signal and pending sell stop in place ..

fugly,

Why enter late? Just wait until next full signal. Also there was many high level news this morning. You should wait until after news release and take the signal past the news.

High Impact News events this morning.

EUR-Euro-Zone Sentix Investor COnfidence Actual -10.6 FOrecast -4.3 BIG MISS

EUR-Euro-Zone PPI Index release Actual - 1.9 Forecast - 1.9 on target no real effect because as expected.

Always check the FF event calendar for high impact news events because they influence price aktion. Also, I hope you are not trade real money until you can produce consistant results. I say that because you post that you have lots of loss over the past 10 trade days. If you are loss to many you should practice only with demo account until you are able to consistant win.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #17,084
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:07am Mar 4, 2013 5:07am
Quoting edith75
Hello,
I'm new here and live in France and I just want to thank everybody here, especially Evaluator, for all the interesting posts about symphony matrix, I'll test it tomorrow (M5 in the beginning) with a free demo.
I've already downloaded and installed indikators symphony matrix 4.4 and 1.7 with signals 1.7 and 1.8 but it seems only 4.4 works for me with signals 1.7, is it normal?
here are my screen caps.
Thanks everybody and sorry in advance if my question is really stupid, I know I've made something wrong (as always, lol).
Ah and do you know...


edith75,

I use only v4.4h Matrix all others are older versions. Play with if you desire but v4.4h is most stable.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #17,085
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:09am Mar 4, 2013 5:09am
Quoting blerkd
ahh bad luck mate i did the same...

This sell signal is 15 bars old and hasn't been triggered so I'm canning it..

Pretty choppy this session

blerkd,

That is good rule to use that after 15 bars of no execute you remove pending until next signal.
I do that sometimes after 12 bars but also use trend row change as my cancel pending.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #17,086
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:15am Mar 4, 2013 5:15am
Quoting blerkd
fantastisch.. zero from zero is infinity right?

is your pending still open or have you closed it?

blerkd,

My pending now closed.

Evalautor.:nerd:
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  • #17,087
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:16am Mar 4, 2013 5:16am
Markt will be low volume because there is EU Minister meeting this day. After the close meeting there will be press conference and that is when markt (may) become volitial.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #17,088
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:40am Mar 4, 2013 5:40am
good morning,

iam short now in ger30 for 40pip

entry bye 7655 sl 15pip tp 7615
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  • #17,089
  • Mar 4, 2013 5:53am Mar 4, 2013 5:53am
here is the lucky chart but but but i hope it works out the trade was well from entries side
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  • #17,090
  • Mar 4, 2013 6:21am Mar 4, 2013 6:21am
Quoting Evaluator
blerkd,

My pending now closed.

Evalautor.:nerd:
Yay good to see I am doing something right The picture becomes clearer with every day passing.

I see Janet Yellen is making a speech for the FOMC in 40 minutes or so.. Will you put in any pendings before her speech? Or perhaps wait until the first bar after...

Cheers
  • #17,091
  • Mar 4, 2013 6:38am Mar 4, 2013 6:38am
now i take the hit and go long for this 40 pips

today 2 pos minus 30pip now 2 pos long in at 7680 sl 7665 tp 7720
  • #17,092
  • Mar 4, 2013 7:05am Mar 4, 2013 7:05am
Quoting Evaluator
fugly,

Why enter late? Just wait until next full signal. Also there was many high level news this morning. You should wait until after news release and take the signal past the news.

High Impact News events this morning.

EUR-Euro-Zone Sentix Investor COnfidence Actual -10.6 FOrecast -4.3 BIG MISS

EUR-Euro-Zone PPI Index release Actual - 1.9 Forecast - 1.9 on target no real effect because as expected.

Always check the FF event calendar for high impact news events because they influence price aktion. Also, I hope you are not trade...
Evaluator thanks for the pointers, yes i've had plenty losers so far I'm on day 1 of week 4 and the account is quite in the red, it is a live account but a very small one so even if i lose it all it doesn't really matter, because the account is tiny and trading a live account even a small one from past experience helps me learn better.
  • #17,093
  • Edited 8:46am Mar 4, 2013 8:34am | Edited 8:46am
Hi Evaluator and other traders,

I have read the rules and think this system has potential. I am not a day trader but swing and position trader so would like to know if any one has tried the symphonie on higher time frames like Daily and Weekly. Would the indicator repaint issue have any major impact on these TF.

Thanks
  • #17,094
  • Mar 4, 2013 8:48am Mar 4, 2013 8:48am
Quoting forexripper
Hi Evaluator and other traders,

I have read the rules and think this system has potential. I am not a day trader put swing and position trader so would like to know if any one has tried the symphonie on higher time frames like Daily and Weekly. Would the indicator repaint issue have any major impact on these TF.

Thanks
Hi,

4.4 no longer repaints.

I have not tested in higher timeframes.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...22#post6277522
  • #17,095
  • Mar 4, 2013 12:06pm Mar 4, 2013 12:06pm
Hi Evaluator,

I have watching this thread for a while, which I am considering adding your system as one new strategy into my algo strategies pool.

I have to say what you did is very good. However, I have some questions which needs your help, and I hope you won't feel offended as I just want to make my understanding clear and maybe contribute to this thread.

1. Regarding Trendline indicator, I see you are using CCI > 0 as up signal and CCI < 0 as down signal. As CCI is a indicator with high volatility, have you tried with RSI to give trendline indicator before? I did a simple test and seems RSI gives more stable signal, e.x. it avoids the trendline signal change happened at a short term pullback following a strong move. Have you thought about giving up/down indicator by crossabove/crossbelow some certain level (like -100/100 in CCI) instead of using zero?

2. In your new indicators matrix 4.4h, the calculation of emotion indicator has changed if I am correct. Could you kindly explain the new method you implement in v4.4h?

These are just some dummy questions but I really need your help.

Many thanks and good luck in money hunting!
  • #17,096
  • Edited 1:55pm Mar 4, 2013 1:14pm | Edited 1:55pm
Thanks Blerkd.

So what has changed for indicators to not repaint. Magic?

Whatever the case I am happy that repainting is gone and now I can backtest system to see its performance on higher TF and place reliance.

I will be using Weekly for trend direction (3 same colour as I ignore trendline) and Daily for entry when 3 are same colour and RSI is showing over bought / sold condition and then enter. Exit when sentiment and emotion indi change colour. Breakeven when first extreme signal.

What settings should I use for Weekly?

Evaluator: Which pairs do you trade? I am thinking EU, GU, AU, UCAD, and EJ
  • #17,097
  • Mar 4, 2013 2:05pm Mar 4, 2013 2:05pm
my tp today hit and iam a happy user from this nice baby.

i make 80 pip - 30 pip from my first wrong signal but thats the way it work out.

chart with entry and exit ipost it also if i enter the trade

have a nice day guys

see you tomorrow
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  • #17,098
  • Mar 5, 2013 3:08am Mar 5, 2013 3:08am
In long EUR/USD trade
  • #17,099
  • Mar 5, 2013 3:31am Mar 5, 2013 3:31am
A lot of markt indecision this morning. I hope my 1.30400 long do not have stoploss hit. It is +30 and running so I protect with +3 pip stoploss but I want more pips!

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #17,100
  • Mar 5, 2013 3:37am Mar 5, 2013 3:37am
Refering back to my Post# 17,071 see below how the less sensitive settings (below screenshot) would keep one out of the whipsaws of the more sensitive setting and more inline with trend of the movement. Sometimes it is good to have a more stronger setting. It is really a matter of preference which Matrix setting one uses because each have their good and bad.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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