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  • #16,641
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:03am Jan 30, 2013 4:03am
Quoting allisonmagic
So how do you measure the overall bias
What bias?
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,642
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:06am Jan 30, 2013 4:06am
Quoting pt49
What bias?

up or down
  • #16,643
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:11am Jan 30, 2013 4:11am
Quoting allisonmagic
up or down
If you mean the trend, I figure that the indicator has already calculated that for me.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no trend on a 5 min time frame. What minor trend there may be is already calculated into the indicator.

My reason for entering the trade -5 pips from the close of the qualifying candle is that from what I can see there's inevitably a retrace, so why not take advantage of it?
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,644
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:13am Jan 30, 2013 4:13am
Quoting pt49
If you mean the trend, I figure that the indicator has already calculated that for me.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no trend on a 5 min time frame. What minor trend there may be is already calculated into the indicator.

My reason for entering the trade -5 pips from the close of the qualifying candle is that from what I can see there's inevitably a retrace, so why not take advantage of it?

do you trail your stops ? and by how much
  • #16,645
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:17am Jan 30, 2013 4:17am
Quoting allisonmagic
do you trail your stops ? and by how much
I haven't thought about that yet... but a version of Vegas Tunnel (uses Fib's) is a good place to start if you want to trail a stop.

I'd like to think that my winners will go for 4 or 5 thousand pips tho.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,646
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:19am Jan 30, 2013 4:19am
Quoting pt49
I haven't thought about that yet... but a version of Vegas Tunnel (uses Fib's) is a good place to start if you want to trail a stop.

I'd like to think that my winners will go for 4 or 5 thousand pips tho.

lol.. indeed
  • #16,647
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:22am Jan 30, 2013 4:22am
I still don't know how accurate these entries are, I may need to reduce my risk and move my initial stops out more than 13 pips for instance.

The risk on entry will vary from pair to pair also. My silver trade was an example, I should not have even entered that trade (lesson hopefully learned).
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,648
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:24am Jan 30, 2013 4:24am
Quoting pt49
I still don't know how accurate these entries are, I may need to reduce my risk and move my initial stops out more than 13 pips for instance.

The risk on entry will vary from pair to pair also. My silver trade was an example, I should not have even entered that trade (lesson hopefully learned).

you must have a lot of experience trading to not have to see the overall trends, price action, volatility and strength, etc...

what is your overall strategy ?
  • #16,649
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:25am Jan 30, 2013 4:25am
My eur/jpy trade is now over 105 pips up... stop is still at +3
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,650
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:27am Jan 30, 2013 4:27am
Quoting allisonmagic

what is your overall strategy ?
To be very profitable... my history proves I am sometimes, not so all the time.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,651
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:28am Jan 30, 2013 4:28am
Quoting pt49
To be very profitable... my history proves I am sometimes, not so all the time.

well we can't all have 100% winning trades, but what is your view of the markets, technically speaking ?
  • #16,652
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:39am Jan 30, 2013 4:39am
Nice moves on EURUSD this morning. Now you may ask...why has he buy after signal?? Answer: I am playing Symphonie Matrix in 1M timeframe to catch the swings... I have find that if you have a strong break and it is at begin of trending cycle 1M can give good signals. But BEWARE....this is most difficult to trade!!!

Always testing....

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,653
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:40am Jan 30, 2013 4:40am
Quoting allisonmagic
you must have a lot of experience trading to not have to see the overall trends, price action, volatility and strength, etc...

what is your overall strategy ?
I'll try answer this again... I've been trading forex about 9 years, over 25,000 hours screen time. I've spent tens of thousands of hard earned dollars on courses, systems, seminars, EA's etc etc etc... 4 or 5 years ago I flew from Australia to Dallas TX for a 2½ day seminar that taught me NOTHING, a waste of about $6,000 for the seminar and flights/accomodation (but the beer was free on the airline).

In other words, I've been around the trading block.

Trust me, there is NO system, method, indicator, signal service or EA out there worth paying money for.

I found this thread through researching another thread which I found researching another etc etc etc... in my years reading Forex Factory threads I've only found a few worthwhile.

This is one, and there are 2 or 3 others.

In my humble opinion this Symphonie Trader System is as good as any method you will find anywhere, anytime in the past or the future.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,654
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:40am Jan 30, 2013 4:40am
Quoting Evaluator
Nice moves on EURUSD this morning. Now you may ask...why has he buy after signal?? Answer: I am playing Symphonie Matrix in 1M timeframe to catch the swings... I have find that if you have a strong break and it is at begin of trending cycle 1M can give good signals. But BEWARE....this is most difficult to trade!!!

Always testing....

Evaluator.:nerd:

with all those buy lines, you made a price channel for yourself
  • #16,655
  • Jan 30, 2013 4:42am Jan 30, 2013 4:42am
Quoting pt49
I'll try answer this again... I've been trading forex about 9 years, over 25,000 hours screen time. I've spent tens of thousands of hard earned dollars on courses, systems, seminars, EA's etc etc etc... 4 or 5 years ago I flew from Australia to Dallas TX for a 2½ day seminar that taught me NOTHING, a waste of about $6,000 for the seminar and flights/accomodation (but the beer was free on the airline).

In other words, I've been around the trading block.

Trust me, there is NO system, method, indicator, signal service or EA out there worth paying...


wow... excellent statement
  • #16,656
  • Jan 30, 2013 5:07am Jan 30, 2013 5:07am
euro/usd, look to see 1.37 in the near future


eur/jpy look to see 125 in the near future
  • #16,657
  • Jan 30, 2013 5:10am Jan 30, 2013 5:10am
Quoting Evaluator
[url="http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=de&client=firefox-. Here is my Christmas present to all. [I]A new Symphonie[/i]. After months of work by LdHT and myself we are proud to release this new Symphonie Matrix indikator. (4.4h)

You will no longer need any additional indikator as this version is complete stand alone and no additionals that are need. Best of all....none of this indikator repaints. No row will ever repaint once the time bar is closed.

However, there are some special rules that you need to...
thanks for this

i;m trying to use it in EA, but without mql4 it's dificult

double Aup1=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,0,w);
double Adown1=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,1,w);
double Aup2=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,2,w);
double Adown2=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,3,w);
double Aup3=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,4,w);
double Adown3=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,5,w);
double Aup4=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,6,w);
double Adown4=iCustom(0,MTF,"Symphonie_Matrix_Indikator_v4.4h",fastEMA,slowEMA,macdSMA,ma,TrendlineCciPeriod,Step,Maximum,7,w);

bool Amatrixbuy=false;
bool Amatrixsel=false;


if(Aup1>0 && Aup2>0 && Aup3>0 && Aup4>0 )
Amatrixbuy=true;


if(Adown1>0 && Adown2>0 && Adown3>0 && Adown4>0 )

Amatrixsel=true;

That is correct for buying , but not for sell.
Adownx<0 no correct
Adownx==0 no correct



Sorry, Would you be so kind to tell wich buffors and what conditions should be used ?
  • #16,658
  • Jan 30, 2013 5:12am Jan 30, 2013 5:12am
Quoting allisonmagic
euro/usd, look to see 1.37 in the near future


eur/jpy look to see 125 in the near future
I've learned that it's not a good idea to make predictions/assumptions, because when you do you are reinforcing that belief into your thinking, and that can be disastrous because you will be making future trading decisions based on what you think, not what you see.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,659
  • Jan 30, 2013 5:15am Jan 30, 2013 5:15am
Quoting przem81621
thanks for this

i;m trying to use it in EA, but without mql4 it's dificult




Sorry, Would you be so kind to tell wich buffors and what conditions should be used ?
Don't be a bloody fool!

You are spending hours n hours trying to automate a simple task.
In the days of old when sailors were bold, and seldom if ever contented.
  • #16,660
  • Jan 30, 2013 5:15am Jan 30, 2013 5:15am
Quoting pt49
I've learned that it's not a good idea to make predictions/assumptions, because when you do you are reinforcing that belief into your thinking, and that can be disastrous because you will be making future trading decisions based on what you think, not what you see.

i'm trading what i see " at a glance "
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