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  • #16,521
  • Jan 23, 2013 3:35am Jan 23, 2013 3:35am
Quoting mike2k
What is going on with markets that the eurusd is in 1.33 for the last 5/6 days !?
With most of time with wipsaws !

This is crazy, in years of markets i never saw nothing like this!
It seems like is all %$&? up (sorry my words)

The markt is the Markt is the MARKT.....
  • #16,522
  • Jan 23, 2013 3:45am Jan 23, 2013 3:45am
Can you say......CHANNEL BREAK!
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  • #16,523
  • Jan 23, 2013 3:48am Jan 23, 2013 3:48am
Maybe i'm wrong but i like more the old version of Symphonie because it seems like this new Symph 4.4 have big delay.

Quoting Evaluator
Yes
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  • #16,524
  • Jan 23, 2013 3:53am Jan 23, 2013 3:53am
Quoting mike2k
Maybe i'm wrong but i like more the old version of Symphonie because it seems like this new Symph 4.4 have big delay.

It is you....... because 3.0.1 (bottom matirx) gave almost the same signal at the same time as 4.4h (top matrix). The difference is the noise that is filtered out in version 4.4h. See screenshot below.

Evaluator.
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  • #16,525
  • Jan 23, 2013 4:27am Jan 23, 2013 4:27am
Since I like to tinker with things.....I have something to pass on as a possible exit strategy. This is not official but I offer as a possible test for you to play with.

I have been researching the conditional changes in markts for the past 60 days and have come across an interesting development and that is the concept of exiting on the changes in the Sentiment value versus the trend. For example I take the last 6 Symphonie Signals and then compare the change in Sentiment as the exit and out of the last 6 signals 2 would have result in a negative effect or loss trade where as the other 4 would make a positive effect.

I will have to play with Sentiment settings more to see if I can fine tune it but I offer as something for you to test.

Again...this is just a theory that I am testing....!

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,526
  • Jan 23, 2013 6:50am Jan 23, 2013 6:50am
Maybe in this situation, but in M15 with Sump 4.4 i didn´t received yet the buy signal.

Quoting Evaluator
It is you....... because 3.0.1 (bottom matirx) gave almost the same signal at the same time as 4.4h (top matrix). The difference is the noise that is filtered out in version 4.4h. See screenshot below.

Evaluator.
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  • #16,527
  • Jan 23, 2013 7:02am Jan 23, 2013 7:02am
EURUSD appears to be stuck in a HUGE wedge pattern......When will it finally break???

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,528
  • Jan 23, 2013 7:44am Jan 23, 2013 7:44am
Quoting mike2k
Maybe in this situation, but in M15 with Sump 4.4 i didn´t received yet the buy signal.

Remember that 15 min has difference settings so you may wish to check your settings. If you have already done that then you may wish to fine tune them to make more responsive to your needs.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #16,529
  • Jan 23, 2013 7:54am Jan 23, 2013 7:54am
In M15 myu settings are:
14
28
5

100

45

0.00052
0.90

Is this right?
Can you tell me what settings you are tading in M5 ?

Quoting Evaluator
Remember that 15 min has difference settings so you may wish to check your settings. If you have already done that then you may wish to fine tune them to make more responsive to your needs.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,530
  • Jan 23, 2013 7:56am Jan 23, 2013 7:56am
Quoting mike2k
In M15 myu settings are:
14
28
5

100

45

0.00052
0.90

Is this right?
Can you tell me what settings you are tading in M5 ?
Those are what I have for 15m so you are correct.

Here are my 5m settings.

Extreme
0,0041
0,05

Trend
55

Emotion
100

Sentiment
24
52
12

This is what I am use for ''tading''...

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #16,531
  • Edited 9:50am Jan 23, 2013 9:35am | Edited 9:50am
look to this PA!
I was long in 1H in eurusd and i was kick off!

UPDATE: i went short in M15 and i was kick off in BE!

Quoting Evaluator
Those are what I have for 15m so you are correct.

Here are my 5m settings.

Extreme
0,0041
0,05

Trend
55

Emotion
100

Sentiment
24
52
12

This is what I am use for ''tading''...

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,532
  • Jan 23, 2013 9:56am Jan 23, 2013 9:56am
I wish I could say that today was an easy trade day but I have not seen one of those since the first week in Jan. .....EURUSD is locked in a neverending wedge pattern it seems.... and by my chart calulation this could last another 10 days! aaaaaah!

Anyway....here is my day today.
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  • #16,533
  • Jan 23, 2013 11:45am Jan 23, 2013 11:45am
Quoting mike2k
Maybe i'm wrong but i like more the old version of Symphonie because it seems like this new Symph 4.4 have big delay.

no you are correct.. if you are sitting on the 1h chart, you will have a major delay before symphonie recognizes a trend. if you are on the 5min, you will catch it before the 1h but it might not be confirmed, and just a small move.
  • #16,534
  • Jan 23, 2013 12:33pm Jan 23, 2013 12:33pm
Hi Evaluator, thank you for sharing,, here are the parameters Ive been using, maybe it works for someone else too

Extreme
0.05
0.2
trendline
8
Emotion
8
Sentiment
12
26
5

for all TF

cheers
  • #16,535
  • Jan 23, 2013 3:12pm Jan 23, 2013 3:12pm
Quoting Evaluator
Those are what I have for 15m so you are correct.

Here are my 5m settings.

Extreme
0,0041
0,05

Trend
55

Emotion
100

Sentiment
24
52
12

This is what I am use for ''tading''...

Evaluator.:nerd:
why are you posting optimal settings for us, and yet your using something completely different
  • #16,536
  • Jan 23, 2013 3:23pm Jan 23, 2013 3:23pm
it's gonna be a while before we find some sort of direction at this point
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  • #16,537
  • Jan 23, 2013 4:08pm Jan 23, 2013 4:08pm
Quoting Evaluator
lastingwell,

you have my indikator, you have my plan, you have my settings...the rest is up to you.

Evaluator.:nerd:
Quoting Evaluator
lastingwell,

My settings are posted and you can find them in post#1.

Evaluator.:nerd:
And now you have finally posted what you are actually using which is totally different to those in post #1 after all and that is why other people couldn't match yours. That will be my final word in the thread good luck to everyone here I think I have seen enough.
  • #16,538
  • Edited 4:47pm Jan 23, 2013 4:36pm | Edited 4:47pm
Quoting allisonmagic
why are you posting optimal settings for us, and yet your using something completely different

allisonmagic,

The reason mine are different is because I am constantly testing different settings. My setting tomorrow and next week will more than likely be different than today because I am always in a state of testing.

The optimals that I posted are just that...the optimal settings that I have found that produce the best results. But that is not to say the others are better. It is just what I posted. They are the Optimal settings that I have found that work the best.

Again, I refer you to my post when I made them. I encourage you to test the setting and find the ones that will work best for you.

Please remember I am a tinker and I play with settings all the time and try to improve things. As I posted (see Post# 16,528) I am playing with Sentiment and trying to make it a possible exit strategy instead of trend. But this is only my ''theory'' and it could be successful or it may not...I do not know at this point.

Once I see something that is stable and performance is best; I will pass it on to the group after I have tested all possibilities.

I use the optimal settings for my trading accounts. Of course as I do find other settings I will make a post and pass on to the group but only after I have proven success.

But to make things more clear since there is obviously confusion here are all the Optimal settings that I am using. You should Compare to the original and you will still see they are about the same as the orignal post. But again I am always in a state of constant test. I am hiding nothing from you and these are the setting I use to trade.

I am also working on a 5M ''Quik Snap'' setting for those that are Risk takers and want to play Whipsaw markts. But that is still requiring alot more testing.

Also please remember what I said in my original post;

Quote
Again, you may wish to play with settings and fine ones that work best for you.
Best of Luck,

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #16,539
  • Jan 23, 2013 4:38pm Jan 23, 2013 4:38pm
Quoting allisonmagic
why are you posting optimal settings for us, and yet your using something completely different

allisonmagic,

I forgot to add....mkfx asked me what I am using right at the moment so I posted them.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #16,540
  • Jan 23, 2013 4:40pm Jan 23, 2013 4:40pm
Quoting Evaluator
allisonmagic,

The reason mine are different is because I am constantly testing different settings. My setting tomorrow and next week will more than likely be different than today because I am always in a state of testing.

The optimals that I posted are just that...the optimal settings that I have found that produce the best results. But that is not to say the others are better. It is just what I posted. They are the Optimal settings that I have found that work the best.

Again, I refer you to my post when I made them. I encourage you to...

yah i was testing the secondary settings in the optimal jpeg, they seem to signal me a little earlier than the ones i was using before. works very nicely even though both settings are excellent. i still like the speed in wich it notify's me of changes.


EDIT:

for the 1h i'm using

0.0019
0.7

now i get my signals 2 bars sooner
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