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  • #1,501
  • Nov 27, 2012 10:23am Nov 27, 2012 10:23am
Quoting shrike
The spread on lmax can be zero or negative because orders from liquidity providers/banks are not matched against each other. On globex this is not the case, so a zero spread immediately results in a trade, so there will always be a spread minimum of 1 tick.

BTW, if there are negative spreads on lmax, it will display a spread of zero, and the best bid/ask quote will display as the midpoint rounded to the nearest 1/10th pip.

auto_trader: can you tell a bit more about your software? Will it be conceptually different from other products like Ninja,...
Have you seen negative spreads on LMAX via API?
  • #1,502
  • Nov 27, 2012 10:34am Nov 27, 2012 10:34am
Quoting Ultimate6
Have you seen negative spreads on LMAX via API?
No, i suppose its the same on API. The web-platform itself uses the same JSON messaging like the API. Maybe its different on fix, i dont know.
  • #1,503
  • Nov 27, 2012 10:43am Nov 27, 2012 10:43am
Quoting shrike
No, i suppose its the same on API. The web-platform itself uses the same JSON messaging like the API. Maybe its different on fix, i dont know.
Yea, I've played with the API to find zero spread instances, didn't come across negative (yet) though.
  • #1,504
  • Nov 27, 2012 11:46am Nov 27, 2012 11:46am
Quoting Ultimate6
I did not get this email. So if I understand this, we have to buy MC and they refund us monthly??
Yes that's right- not ideal, but it seems LMAX are concentrating more on being a pure exchange (I've noticed they only offer one type of account now too), and this is their way of offering a decent platform to LMAX clients (although unfortunately only the larger, higher volume users get it for free through the rebates...)
There is no top. There are always further heights to reach. Jascha Heifetz
  • #1,505
  • Nov 27, 2012 12:01pm Nov 27, 2012 12:01pm
Quoting Trader131
Yes that's right- not ideal, but it seems LMAX are concentrating more on being a pure exchange (I've noticed they only offer one type of account now too), and this is their way of offering a decent platform to LMAX clients (although unfortunately only the larger, higher volume users get it for free through the rebates...)
Yes, the individual Professional Account and corporate. They are just outsourcing the business below 10.000$ to their IBs. This is OK.
It is time for a currency exchange.
  • #1,506
  • Edited 12:33pm Nov 27, 2012 12:03pm | Edited 12:33pm
Quoting shrike
The spread on lmax can be zero or negative because orders from liquidity providers/banks are not matched against each other. On globex this is not the case, so a zero spread immediately results in a trade, so there will always be a spread minimum of 1 tick.

BTW, if there are negative spreads on lmax, it will display a spread of zero, and the best bid/ask quote will display as the midpoint rounded to the nearest 1/10th pip.

auto_trader: can you tell a bit more about your software? Will it be conceptually different from other products like Ninja,...
Yes, completely different to anything else ( else it would just be a variant of the same status quo of the past 10 years ), I can unfortunately not tell anything more right now.

I recorded this video a few weeks back, comparing Interactive Brokers EUR/USD Globex Future with LMAX EUR.USD FX - over a Fix connection, not the LMAX API.

http://tinypic.com/r/10ckrjd/6

( No, I havnt seen negative spreads, havnt been looking for it so dosnt mean it couldnt happen, but I doubt )
  • #1,507
  • Nov 27, 2012 1:14pm Nov 27, 2012 1:14pm
Quoting fxking
so,in this case,would u trust Armada & use them as your broker?
I don' see the issue with this. You just need to deposit your balance, double your account quickly and then withdraw your initial investment.

If you're playing with big money than this then go with IMAX directly instead.
  • #1,508
  • Nov 27, 2012 2:15pm Nov 27, 2012 2:15pm
Right. Double the money quickly. Thats some solid advice right there.

And then, if you lose half of your doubled money, its somehow less bad. Because you still got the other half. Thats one clever plan, if i ever heard one..
  • #1,509
  • Nov 27, 2012 3:06pm Nov 27, 2012 3:06pm
Quoting C-12
If you're playing with big money than this then go with IMAX directly instead.
IMAX 3D is better. Saw a space film on that once, trippy stuff.
FXGears.com
  • #1,510
  • Nov 27, 2012 3:10pm Nov 27, 2012 3:10pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
IMAX 3D is better. Saw a space film on that once, trippy stuff.
  • #1,511
  • Nov 27, 2012 4:04pm Nov 27, 2012 4:04pm
Quoting Jack_Larkin
IMAX 3D is better. Saw a space film on that once, trippy stuff.
Haha I keep calling them that for some reason!
  • #1,512
  • Nov 27, 2012 4:51pm Nov 27, 2012 4:51pm
How often do you see data missing from Lmax feed? Just connected Lmax to MC and I see lots of holes like in Swiss cheese, even after reloading... I attache a comparison between Lmax and Oanda.
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  • #1,513
  • Nov 27, 2012 5:10pm Nov 27, 2012 5:10pm
Karl: lmax is down from 5:00 pm EST to 5:05 pm for roll over. That spike yesterday was during this time - euro fin-mins made an announcement regarding Greece.
  • #1,514
  • Nov 27, 2012 5:14pm Nov 27, 2012 5:14pm
Quoting shrike
Karl: lmax is down from 5:00 pm EST to 5:05 pm for roll over. That spike yesterday was during this time - euro fin-mins made an announcement regarding Greece.
Thanks This is a reassuring replay.
  • #1,515
  • Nov 27, 2012 6:07pm Nov 27, 2012 6:07pm
I have a favour to ask: can you check how much of the history for USDJPY can be downloaded to your frontends from Lmax? I can only download as little as from September 2012.
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  • #1,516
  • Nov 27, 2012 6:28pm Nov 27, 2012 6:28pm
Quoting Forexeurusd
I have NEVER seen any difference between spreads of LMAX and Armada, this guy is talking out of his a..
Either you really compare or shu* up. http://s7.directupload.net/images/121128/ql5nwafx.png
  • #1,517
  • Nov 28, 2012 3:01am Nov 28, 2012 3:01am
Quoting Karl_Vosp
I have a favour to ask: can you check how much of the history for USDJPY can be downloaded to your frontends from Lmax? I can only download as little as from September 2012.
I managed to go back as far as 29/8/2010 on the 2 hr charts. What you need to do is right click on the chart, then Format instruments>Settings>and in the data range change the dates to whatever you want. Bear in mind that the further back you go, the longer it will take to load the charts, when changing timeframes until you have downloaded all the historical data into the cache
There is no top. There are always further heights to reach. Jascha Heifetz
  • #1,518
  • Nov 28, 2012 7:53am Nov 28, 2012 7:53am
Unfortunately again connection problems with Armadamarkets.
Almost exactly same time as yesterday (all times GMT+1): http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...84#post6236084

Anyone else?

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  • #1,519
  • Nov 28, 2012 8:15am Nov 28, 2012 8:15am
Quoting m.m.m.
Unfortunately again connection problems with Armadamarkets.
Almost exactly same time as yesterday (all times GMT+1): http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...84#post6236084

Anyone else?

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me too !!! and thats the last straw.. i wont trade with arma . with my full account!
such a broker is of no use when u trade the 1min TF ...

http://i.imgur.com/88VBE.png
  • #1,520
  • Edited 9:02am Nov 28, 2012 8:45am | Edited 9:02am
Quoting PrymeTyme
me too !!!
I see, so this is definitely not a problem on my (and your) side.
I have worte them a mail. Curious what they will come up with!? For some reason those events are not recored into my mt4's today's ".log" file. How about yours? From the yesterday's ".log" file I can see some connection failures, but not in today's..
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