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  • #39,761
  • Edited 8:35pm Oct 14, 2012 8:06pm | Edited 8:35pm
Quoting nimsri
Hi traderathome! I have been following this thread to study short term trading, especially trades done by you as one who frequently contributes to the thread. You have shorted EJ on 3 Oct at 100.883 and closed at 100.578 on Oct 10 for a gain of 31 pips. However, since entering the trade, at one stage it has gone against you by around 180 pips ( peak on Oct 5 th). My question is whether one can keep a trade open when it is going in the opposite direction by such a large value of pips. Please explain.Regards
Quoting vtayha
Hi nimsri, here is what I see on the EJ chart ... I read many of tah posts where he posted the setups. He actually post many setups in realtime but never show the actual trades taken in MT4. tah use mental SL but never mentioned where his mental SL were placed nor how many pips. I don't know if he traded those setups in live account and what the lot size he trade live. But he trade against the market is not something many traders can stomach with such huge mental SL. I can't imagine how live traders will deal with such style of trading. Anyone , live traders would like to share this sort of risk management style. regards,
Quoting alexbs
nice live trade friend... but some people just want a privacy for their account ^^Just my 2 cent ^^
No, one cannot easily do this. Such trading requres a number of situations that most traders do not participate in such as: multiple accounts to enable trading in both directions at the same time, and very small trade sizes relative to account sizes so the large swings against trades can be accomodated, even very large swings for a very long time on multiple trades.

I use MT4 (sundry brokers) to post my trades. I simply do not use the the MT4 charting option to draw my buy/sell lines. I wrote my own indicator for this. It gives me control of the individual colors of the EP, TPs and SLs and enables me to show multiple entries individually, or as a single average to help re-plan exits (see attached pics of recent AU trades), which cannot be done using the MT4 option. And, it therefore enables me to post a much cleaner, clearer chart of the trade. I post my trades as examples of setups, not as examples of trade management, about which I am certainly not an example for others to follow. And I intend to do something about this, am doing something about this, which will hopefully soon be a part of trades starting in the near future.

Regarding another matter recently promoted by a newcomer, I do not encourage converting this thread to a bulletin board showing how much individuals are making. The purpose of this thread is to present the Sonic R. System and provide ongoing examples of its application by the use of clean, clear charts showing all the pertinant information. This is not a "contest" site.

And thank you, alexbs. You are absolutely correct.
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  • #39,762
  • Edited 9:13pm Oct 14, 2012 9:01pm | Edited 9:13pm
Market Commentary:

It is rare that the early asian session makes noteworthy moves. It is doing so today. And this follows the last few days of last week where the market made prices move in the anti-USD direction, in spite of the "news". Not surprisingly, the current asian session moves are pro-USD. And that might be setting the tone for the week,.....might be. In any case, pullbacks (more anti-USD moves) are likely and might be followed by good Sonic R. setups for pro-USD trades.

Look at the EU H1 pic. attached. Clearly, Friday the market was hell bent on driving the price back up to previous resistance, with highest volumes coming in at the tail end of the pump and afterwards, while the price was held up. This is typical of a market Pump And Dump maneuver. And so, now we see the very next time the early asian session gets to trade, what do they do? They also sell!

Note too, that early last week, following the grand pump on the last day of the week before, the market heavily sold. So the pump back up this last week, with maybe now another leg of selling, is not an isolated situation. It very well could be a clear sign that the market has already turned bullish USD and is maneuvering prices up/down, cycling prices, to enable it to reverse positions on a very grand scale without tipping the scale over!
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  • #39,763
  • Oct 14, 2012 10:36pm Oct 14, 2012 10:36pm
Quoting umbro
We should open our accounts and teach...there are a lot of people suffering around the world...if you can afford trading ... it means we can help. I will help. Thank you.
if you want to make pips , just follow TAH trade and do opposite if he sell you buy if he buy you sell , try it
  • #39,764
  • Oct 15, 2012 12:35am Oct 15, 2012 12:35am
Quoting traderathome
Andy is a man of my own heart. The market does not always display per that "free market" bullshit that says when price is rising it shows that there is a strong demand.

Here is another chart, EU. You can see that on the open of the London market Friday the market pumped pricing, and then the market started late Friday with more of the short selling. And now the early asian market, on a Sunday-Monday no less, is following suit, with more short selling. VSA gives clues. But, as Master Sonicdeejay says, "Let the Dragon and PA show the way."...
Ok. It seems Andy is dying or something from your post. I hope he'll not die, because I want to read his posts again and being insulting again. It makes me more energized recently. I would like to thank you about the VSA explanation...I'm studying...I'll ask again and if you answer I'll appreciate. I'm looking at your past trades too. I took short sell today early in the morning here in Asia. I will not show. Thanks, Umbro
  • #39,765
  • Oct 15, 2012 12:50am Oct 15, 2012 12:50am
Quoting jasakreatif
if you want to make pips , just follow TAH trade and do opposite if he sell you buy if he buy you sell , try it
Ha, ha! And obviously not advice you yourself follow, or we'd all have seen the posts.
  • #39,766
  • Oct 15, 2012 1:00am Oct 15, 2012 1:00am
london almost open , wait TAH post new trade , do opposite
  • #39,767
  • Edited 1:33am Oct 15, 2012 1:05am | Edited 1:33am
Quoting jasakreatif
london almost open , wait TAH post new trade , do opposite
For a guy that posts all over FF and scarely ever posts a trade, certainly not here, you are full of advice for others. Because I already have my trades running, unless one of them shows a really good pullback later in the LS, I have no need to do more at this time. I might add to my GU short trade if the market obliges by maneuvering the price sufficiently above the central pivot, which is less than likely but still a possibility.
  • #39,768
  • Oct 15, 2012 1:09am Oct 15, 2012 1:09am
Today I'll not post. I would like to see some other trades posted but not the same people. You post...
  • #39,769
  • Oct 15, 2012 1:14am Oct 15, 2012 1:14am
Quoting traderathome
Actually, I already have my trades running. And unless one of them shows a really good pullback later in the LS, I won't take on more at this time. For a guy that posts all over FF and scarely ever posts a trade, certainly not here, you are full of advice for others.
okay.. still waiting.. hehe
  • #39,770
  • Oct 15, 2012 1:19am Oct 15, 2012 1:19am
Hi tah, you have any open trade running now ?

I'm bullish in EJ, hope will see a long setup soon. Wait for LO.

EJ reach support zone 1h chart, i think so.
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Keep Simple...!
  • #39,771
  • Oct 15, 2012 1:56am Oct 15, 2012 1:56am
EJ : a good long setup ?
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Keep Simple...!
  • #39,772
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:07am Oct 15, 2012 2:07am
Quoting kotlt
Hi tah, you have any open trade running now? I'm bullish in EJ, hope will see a long setup soon. Wait for LO. EJ reach support zone 1h chart, i think so.
Yes. Those from last week are AU and GU shorts, and UCad and UChf longs.
  • #39,773
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:11am Oct 15, 2012 2:11am
OK. I'll not post but you guys what do you think about this on the euro ? I'll make a post later about correlation, currency options and something...
  • #39,774
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:18am Oct 15, 2012 2:18am
No come on Umbro look back on the thread last friday you was asking me questions about volume, so i helped you out, no i never seen you post a live trade your just have cos you have no clue how to trade.

The proof is there

GO LONG BIG NOW UMBRO ON THE EURUSD !!!!!!
  • #39,775
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:20am Oct 15, 2012 2:20am
Im not dying from any post that TAH says he knows I know about volume as he as mentioned good things about my thoughts on volume before
  • #39,776
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:20am Oct 15, 2012 2:20am
Quoting kotlt
EJ : a good long setup ?
Yes, an ok setup. Has been already running by the time I get to this post. But take another look at H1, and see the upper TL that might be resistance.
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  • #39,777
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:27am Oct 15, 2012 2:27am
Quoting andyvxr
No come on Umbro look back on the thread last friday you was asking me questions about volume, so i helped you out, no i never seen you post a live trade your just have cos you have no clue how to trade.

The proof is there

GO LONG BIG NOW UMBRO ON THE EURUSD !!!!!!

I'm long from .29188 Thank you bud.
  • #39,778
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:29am Oct 15, 2012 2:29am
Quoting andyvxr
Im not dying from any post that TAH says he knows I know about volume as he as mentioned good things about my thoughts on volume before
Umbro, Andyvxr is correct. I have very high regard for his alertness to the fact that just because price moves strongly up does not mean demand, and just because price moves strongly down does not mean the lack of it. Quite the reverse is a regular occurrence. In any market where "Big Money" is at work, it is not a "free market" at all. It is a market where price is regularly manipulated, or maneuvered, by "Big Money". And this results in strong up moves that are actually selloffs, and strong down moves that are actually buyups. Andy is astute about this.
  • #39,779
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:35am Oct 15, 2012 2:35am
Quoting traderathome
Umbro, Andyvxr is correct. I have very high regard for his alertness to the fact that just because price moves strongly up does not mean demand, and just because price moves strongly down does not mean the lack of it. Quite the reverse is a regular occurrence. In any market where "Big Money" is at work, it is not a "free market" at all. It is a market where price is regularly manipulated, or maneuvered, by "Big Money". And this results in strong up moves that are actually selloffs, and strong down moves that are actually buyups. Andy...
Look at the OA and then post again !
  • #39,780
  • Oct 15, 2012 2:58am Oct 15, 2012 2:58am
Quoting umbro
I'm trying to understand the VSA and other things. I have the maximum respect for your effort. This is not a game about children on the beach. You show me your stuff please. umbro
I would like to add more. You look the BG (big guns), the BS or whatever but if they are moving the market and they are moving (like in today's asia session) it's because they can. Don't be greedy. Take your own. You can make a lot of money. U
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