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  • #39,641
  • Oct 8, 2012 10:39am Oct 8, 2012 10:39am
Quoting alrightfrank
eu is developing long as well...
carefull, this scenario could still trigger short...imho
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  • #39,642
  • Oct 8, 2012 10:40am Oct 8, 2012 10:40am
Quoting alrightfrank
nice take, but too late for me. thanks anyway
U can take GBPUSD
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  • #39,643
  • Oct 8, 2012 10:54am Oct 8, 2012 10:54am
Quoting traderathome
GU: TP1 reached and trade closed for 50 pips gain, EP1 to TP1. As mentioned thru the week, the SLs shown on open trades has remained mental, and continues to be mental on those remaining open trades. The others lost even more ground today, but I suspect a change in the wind is coming. GU and AU (no trade on this one, unfortunately) are just the first hints of this.

TAH!
When you entered this trade, If you follow the Sonic Rules, you would be stoped at 1.6201. How you said you took out your SL, it means we have three possibilities:
1. you do not follow the Sonic rules.
2. You're a prophet
3. You're lying about this trade.
Please it's not a burned, just trying understand.
  • #39,644
  • Oct 8, 2012 11:13am Oct 8, 2012 11:13am
I have closed the EA early as it looks like it may reverse. I am still holding the AU as long as it stays above the daily pivot.
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  • #39,645
  • Oct 8, 2012 11:15am Oct 8, 2012 11:15am
Quoting napali
TAH!
When you entered this trade, If you follow the Sonic Rules, you would be stoped at 1.6201. How you said you took out your SL, it means we have three possibilities:
1. you do not follow the Sonic rules.
2. You're a prophet
3. You're lying about this trade.
Please it's not a burned, just trying understand.
I think TAH SL are only mental, so no SL are really hit.
  • #39,646
  • Oct 8, 2012 12:14pm Oct 8, 2012 12:14pm
I am now flat the market waiting for the next setup.
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  • #39,647
  • Oct 8, 2012 1:17pm Oct 8, 2012 1:17pm
I think this is a possible reversal in EU.

Time to fetch some pips...................
  • #39,648
  • Oct 8, 2012 1:30pm Oct 8, 2012 1:30pm
Quoting eire77
I think TAH SL are only mental, so no SL are really hit.
Ok! But...even if it is mental, how could he know if the prices would not rise more? It's not trade, it's a shot. Even though he stayed in front of the computer all the time (very tiring), how many pips above the SL his "emotional control" stand? If happened a rally against him and, in this moment, he was on the phone etc? It's not a method, it's lucky, guesses, thoughts or anything like that, less Sonic trade. Look...A trade that went wrong, exceeded the SL and magically, turned into a profit of 50 pips. Very interesting, easy and clean . It's much more prudent to show the trades that went wrong, than this.
  • #39,649
  • Edited 3:48pm Oct 8, 2012 2:45pm | Edited 3:48pm
Quoting napali
TAH!
When you entered this trade, If you follow the Sonic Rules, you would be stoped at 1.6201. How you said you took out your SL, it means we have three possibilities:
1. you do not follow the Sonic rules.
2. You're a prophet
3. You're lying about this trade.
Please it's not a burned, just trying understand.
The Sonic R. System recommends the use of a SL. Placement of SLs is anywhere from just beyond the beginning of the PA wave leg #3 back to just beyond the beginning of PA wave leg #1. In addition, Master Sonicdeejay has even stated that an 80 pips SL for EU can be considered "tight". So, a SL could even be perhaps beyond the RGH/RGL marks!

As for me, I continue to wrestle with where to place the SL. I do show my "best guesses" on my trade pics. However, if I believe in a trade, and I see high volatility ahead, I keep my SLs mental. And I state so in my posts. I comes down to me giving my trades breathing room. Sometimes too much so, and I get "trapped" in trades that then sit on the bench for quite some time unless I want to close at high losses. I don't like it when that happens, but I also don't like being frequently stopped out when using tight SLs. Where is the solution? I don't know. And every trader faces this dilemma and has to decide, from trade to trade, how to handle things. I make my choices. You make yours. And as I said, I do try to mention in my posts how I am handling SLs on open trades under changing market conditions.

I am not a prophet, and the wrong trades of record here prove that. I have not, and still do not always follow the Sonic R. System rules and recommendations, and the wrong trades of record here prove that. I would think the content of record clearly addresses your third suggestion.

I hope this clarifies things for you.


-tah
  • #39,650
  • Oct 8, 2012 3:23pm Oct 8, 2012 3:23pm
EU Commentary:

Where is this going? Up? Down? And why do we even bother to ask?

At any point in time, a case can be made for either direction as the next move coming. The danger in speculating (and this is from a speculator) is forming a bias that influences to the point that we stop trading what PA is doing in favor of what we anticipate PA will be doing! At the very least, this results in missing moves. At the worst, it results in trading the wrong direction, and delaying the exit.

Throughout Forex Factory, the subject of most posts is an opinion of where price is headed. Some turned out correct, others not, but none affected the result.

If our analysis of what PA might do next cannot beneficially affect the result, but can adversely affect our trading, why bother? Especially when all we really have to do is just await the next Sonic R. System setup, and assess things then.

-tah

PS: Just posting this so those inclined to conflict will have something of substance to jump on when I next post speculation.
  • #39,651
  • Oct 8, 2012 4:02pm Oct 8, 2012 4:02pm
Okay! Enlightened, considering the range of your risk tolerance, your mental SL, I suppose you stand very close to the screen and has a good knowledge of the game. I agree with you that is very difficult to set a SL, mainly in the short term. Because of this and the time I have to spend, I trade long term and with a little less money. I use to set SL and forget it until I'm in profit and use fibos extensions for TP.
Thanks for reply.
  • #39,652
  • Oct 8, 2012 4:34pm Oct 8, 2012 4:34pm
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enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #39,653
  • Oct 8, 2012 5:22pm Oct 8, 2012 5:22pm
Quoting traderathome
EU Commentary:

Where is this going? Up? Down? And why do we even bother to ask?

At any point in time, a case can be made for either direction as the next move coming. The danger in speculating (and this is from a speculator) is forming a bias that influences to the point that we stop trading what PA is doing in favor of what we anticipate PA will be doing! At the very least, this results in missing moves. At the worst, it results in trading the wrong direction, and delaying the exit.

Throughout Forex Factory, the subject...

...
Where is this going? Up? Down?
...

UP - maybe short before - lets trade an pay invoices from it .... thats life
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #39,654
  • Oct 8, 2012 9:25pm Oct 8, 2012 9:25pm
Quoting worldfreedom
I am now flat the market waiting for the next setup.
Worldfreedom, I notice your use of Strateman's Mini-Charts and that you have our period separators and market vLines set to show in the chart sub-window you use for these Mini-Charts. Let me bring to your attention that you can select to not show the separators and vLines in sub-windows. Just go down the External Inputs to both the Separators Section and the vLines Section and in each, where it says "....Thru_SubWindows", change the input from "true" to "false".
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  • #39,655
  • Oct 9, 2012 12:59am Oct 9, 2012 12:59am
Again the last (this is the last guys don't worry). I don't want to interphere anymore.
I would like to leave some added value before going to the people who don't insulted me ...ok...to everyone. If you don't like just ignore or insult me. Up to you. I started trading FX 3 years ago (before I was trading stocks from the 1999. During the bubble I made money. so easy .... ). I just traded eurusd on the 5m chart because I think on this timeframe it's already difficult enough.
I trade 1-2-3 setup, fractal break risky entry and conservative (These are reversal). I use to bank on 40-50pips on HH/LL waiting for consolidation and bank again if possible in a best scenario.
I don't risk more than 1% of my account daily with a 1:1RR. More it's a suicide. My StopLoss is fixed and I don't touch it for whatever reason. But you're on the 15m...it's another world. I'm an old guy...but you are in the web-2.0 era you can think about making mental/dynamic stuff. Next we'll make mental trades.I take different trades. I don't think too much I take the trades that's it. If I miss 2-3 consecutives trades I stop and go the park. I learnt how to trade in the The System II (Yes with irony) trade. Feb2865 is my mentor. He started this thread and others. He was on the floor and then retired because sick. I don't know if he's still alive. You can look at my posts there because I fighted to protect the treahd bu than I decided to stop for respect of him and because other traders opened a new thread after taking the knowledge. But the the owner has been banned.
If you would like to see something new you can go there and read (may be during the wkend).
In this thread you don't talk about risk and money management.
Thank you for everything and good trading.
Umbro
  • #39,656
  • Oct 9, 2012 1:36am Oct 9, 2012 1:36am
Possible short scenario on AUDUSD.... Thoughts?
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  • #39,657
  • Oct 9, 2012 2:30am Oct 9, 2012 2:30am
After the last post I leave with the last chart. Remember Trading is mental...respect is the key !
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  • #39,658
  • Oct 9, 2012 2:59am Oct 9, 2012 2:59am
draghi speaks: http://www.bloomberg.com/live-stream/
  • #39,659
  • Oct 9, 2012 3:12am Oct 9, 2012 3:12am
UCad: Entered long.
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  • #39,660
  • Oct 9, 2012 4:26am Oct 9, 2012 4:26am
Quoting Gloryrose
long audusd will be easy!
I appreciate the posting of the chart, but it would be so much better if ANYONE that posts their trade with a chart would ALL use the same chart setups.

Trade any chart you prefer, but only post the trade with the chart available on Post #1.

Especially difficult to "see" the trade without the dragon on the chart.

(don't chew me up and spit me out please )
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