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  • #4,281
  • Sep 19, 2012 2:31am Sep 19, 2012 2:31am
Quoting shum
Hello to every one, thanks to all you for the super-system, this is my enteries in buy for the day on eurousd. with all this trades I made about 280 pips-))
one of the most important moment for me is to use the extreme tma info 40, with slope threshold 0.25..becouse with this indicator I now what kaind of trend is now, and filter the enteres.

http://i5.pixs.ru/storage/1/1/1/euro...79_5778111.gif

http://i5.pixs.ru/storage/1/1/7/euro...40_5778117.gif...
Please overlaid the indicators and template from the post 4139 for me!
  • #4,282
  • Sep 19, 2012 2:53am Sep 19, 2012 2:53am
So busy gloating in my success, I missed GU retracement.

Pivoted perfectly

Chuck that one in my journal
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,283
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:06am Sep 19, 2012 3:06am
Quoting niktrad
Does anyone use 'shared pivots' where EU responds to EJ pivots & vice versa?
Hey Niktrad, I hadn't thought about it like that but it makes sense and worth keeping an eye on as with most corelations.
Another way to look at 'shared pivots' is when both EU & EJ hit similar/different pivots at the same time: Currently EU is at S1 + WP support and EJ is at DP + 80%ATR support.
Will they both turn up?
(i don't know)
But with Stox from M5 to H4 in OS, let's see if we get a Long Genesis signal in the near future for a possible decent bounce.
  • #4,284
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:11am Sep 19, 2012 3:11am
Quoting Alex101
Please overlaid the indicators and template from the post 4139 for me!
They are already all on there (HA, MA, Matrix, 5+15 Stox, Arrow...)
  • #4,285
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:25am Sep 19, 2012 3:25am
Oliver,

EJ 4H stoch diverging, Genesis down arrows on H1 ???
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,286
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:25am Sep 19, 2012 3:25am
Hello,

what should prevent me from taking those long trades this morning (EURUSD, AUDUSD)? See vertical lines with red arrows.

Any advice welcome.
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  • #4,287
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:32am Sep 19, 2012 3:32am
Firstly,I just want to say hello to everybody here. This is my first post here in this thread and forexfactory too. I'm looking forward to learn from you guys and contribute to this thread too. I've been lurking around forexfactory for a year and read many trading systems like: Sonic R,THV system,X-man simple system,the art of trading MAs,... They are brilliant system and there are many generous and kind people out there too. But I just can't get a hang of these systems.1 good trade and then 1 bad trade from time to time make me frustrated.I know that indicator and system is not a way to get money with just 1 click because "the Holy Grail " is the trader himself. And that why I've spent the last 3 month with babypips school to learn PA,S&R,Divergences,TL,... and I know I still have a lot to learn everyday. And I recommend it to everyone out there who want to learn how to trade,who want to make a serious business in the future,spend your time to learn the basic of forex instead of going every thread and ask for their template or indicator or EA. This is my thought about forex and I don't mean any offense.
3 days ago,I found out about Genesis Matrix Trading and I really want to learn about it. I know I can't be indecisive anymore and I will stick with this until I can make it work and make consistent profits from it. I know I have to take action,join the community and stop lurking around.
Lastly,I want to say thank you to RJ,Cody,Ohammond,Yelena,Xaphod for the great system and thread. I wish you guys every success in business and a happy life. And I hope this thread will be bigger in the near future. Cheers.
  • #4,288
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:36am Sep 19, 2012 3:36am
Quoting joker24
Hello,

what should prevent me from taking those long trades this morning (EURUSD, AUDUSD)? See vertical lines with red arrows.

Any advice welcome.
On both occasions, M15 Stox coming down from OB territory: you really want both to be moving in the same direction and not to be in 'conflict' with one another (ideally M15 Stox will have gone into OS territory too when attempting a Long)
  • #4,289
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:39am Sep 19, 2012 3:39am
RE: EU take a look at the 15M chart.

Plus I dont think you have all the Genesis indicators.

You dont have MTF arrows, MTF stoch, or THV4

Those three on the 15M where crying out for a short
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,290
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:49am Sep 19, 2012 3:49am
Quoting Martyfish
RE: EU take a look at the 15M chart.

Plus I dont think you have all the Genesis indicators.

You dont have MTF arrows, MTF stoch, or THV4

Those three on the 15M where crying out for a short
Is thv4 part of the system ?
  • #4,291
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:49am Sep 19, 2012 3:49am
Quoting ttaro27
Is thv4 part of the system ?
Nope
  • #4,292
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:54am Sep 19, 2012 3:54am
Quoting Martyfish
or THV4
The lad's asking for a kicking
  • #4,293
  • Sep 19, 2012 3:56am Sep 19, 2012 3:56am
Quoting olivierforex
On both occasions, M15 Stox coming down from OB territory: you really want both to be moving in the same direction and not to be in 'conflict' with one another (ideally M15 Stox will have gone into OS territory too when attempting a Long)

Olivier.., thanks for answering.


On my previous post the brown line on my stoch indicator is based on 60 min, the blue one based on 5 min.

On this post the stoch lines are normal. red = 15 min; blue= 5 min.

So your explanation is obvious for the AudUsd. But not so clear on the EURUSD (for me).


Thanks in advance for having a second look.
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  • #4,294
  • Sep 19, 2012 4:18am Sep 19, 2012 4:18am
On EJ a break and failed retest of PP

+ 15 pips

Oliver, I have put on an extra pair of shorts so RJ's kicking doesn't hurt too much

Apologies Cody, I picked the file up off this thread, thought that was the long range EMA Minako uses - my mistake.
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,295
  • Sep 19, 2012 4:18am Sep 19, 2012 4:18am
Quoting joker24
Olivier.., thanks for answering.


On my previous post the brown line on my stoch indicator is based on 60 min, the blue one based on 5 min.

On this post the stoch lines are normal. red = 15 min; blue= 5 min.

So your explanation is obvious for the AudUsd. But not so clear on the EURUSD (for me).


Thanks in advance for having a second look.
Hi joker

Before entering any trade I always check the situation with the 15m genesis matrix for confirmation of the 5m signal. I like to see at least 3 lights on the 15m in agreement with the 5m matrix. In both cases on your chart, the 15m matrix showed 3 short coloured lights and only 1 long colour so no trade for me.
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  • #4,296
  • Sep 19, 2012 4:40am Sep 19, 2012 4:40am
Quoting joker24
Olivier.., thanks for answering.


On my previous post the brown line on my stoch indicator is based on 60 min, the blue one based on 5 min.

On this post the stoch lines are normal. red = 15 min; blue= 5 min.

So your explanation is obvious for the AudUsd. But not so clear on the EURUSD (for me).


Thanks in advance for having a second look.
Joker, I agree with Oli, and Scarlet Pipe.

A different MTF Stoch may make it clearer for you. It is Xaphod's Stoch MTF that you can find here. With either M15 stoch, it isn't really rising much, if at all, so there is disagreement between the M5 and M15.

You can add a second Genesis Matrix for the M15 to your chart to see what Scarlet Pipe has mentioned, without having to flip time frames.

And finally, you have fractals on your chart which are showing you a series of lower highs. I've drawn a rough "line of best fit" here. A series of higher highs would be a good indication for a long entry.

Taken together, these would have helped you decide on a higher probability entry.

http://i49.tinypic.com/ih7go6.jpg
  • #4,297
  • Sep 19, 2012 4:47am Sep 19, 2012 4:47am
Quoting joker24
Olivier.., thanks for answering. On my previous post the brown line on my stoch indicator is based on 60 min, the blue one based on 5 min. On this post the stoch lines are normal. red = 15 min; blue= 5 min. So your explanation is obvious for the AudUsd. But not so clear on the EURUSD (for me).
In a way, you have answered your own question...
I know that it's not part of core-Genesis, but I like to know what the higher TFs Stox are doing for overall direction although they have their disadvantages too (M30 a bit too close to M15 & H4 too far for decent corelation with M5 matrix, so I generally keep an eye on the H1 Stox, and in the EU case the H1 Stox was ------> see previous post.)
Yes in your example the M15 Stox was low but if you want higher probability trades, wait until it has gone fully OS/OB and has started to turn up/down.

Edit: (see Cody's previous post) ...also, by the time the 2nd Long M5 signal was generated, the MTF Arrow (15) had already turned Short (the 3 down magenta arrows on his chart). Do a search and find it in this thread
  • #4,298
  • Sep 19, 2012 5:05am Sep 19, 2012 5:05am
@Oli, Scarlet, Cody

many thanks for your help.

Your recommendations are making sense. I will study them.
  • #4,299
  • Sep 19, 2012 5:48am Sep 19, 2012 5:48am
GU seems to be trying to form a bottom, right on S2.

Typical, tries a fake below of 2 candles then reverses
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #4,300
  • Sep 19, 2012 5:58am Sep 19, 2012 5:58am
Joker24,

Have you loaded the GMTS Dash ?

This is extremely helpful.

I have it set at 4H, 1H, 15M & 5M

The best trades, and extremely reliable are when all arrows are red/green.

Threre have been plenty of those trades today
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
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