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  • #9,081
  • Aug 13, 2012 4:10pm Aug 13, 2012 4:10pm
Quoting alaneth
Thanks for the advice - I heard of this, but forgot to think about it.

I asked AVA & Hotforex. They have negative balance protection

Haven't checked with Finexo & Instaforex though.
Last time when someone worte here that fxpro has a good swap, in one week fxpro reduced swap and very soon turned it to negative.

Today AVA reduced their swap to one-third than before - now the swap is similar to FXCM or IBFX.

Probably a lot of people reads our forum and opens account for good swap so the brokers act.

Like that I dont think AVA is so good anymore, got spikes, quite unflexible, not exceptional swap anymore and very bad mobile platform.

Bammm.
  • #9,082
  • Aug 13, 2012 5:08pm Aug 13, 2012 5:08pm
Quoting pipxster
Last time when someone worte here that fxpro has a good swap, in one week fxpro reduced swap and very soon turned it to negative.

Today AVA reduced their swap to one-third than before - now the swap is similar to FXCM or IBFX.

Probably a lot of people reads our forum and opens account for good swap so the brokers act.

Like that I dont think AVA is so good anymore, got spikes, quite unflexible, not exceptional swap anymore and very bad mobile platform.

Bammm.
I hope that the interest rates are not gone down by Draghi the next month. If he does it, there will not be any broker with positive swap in long position of eurchf
  • #9,083
  • Aug 13, 2012 10:27pm Aug 13, 2012 10:27pm
Quoting alesss
I hope that the interest rates are not gone down by Draghi the next month. If he does it, there will not be any broker with positive swap in long position of eurchf
Very true. That has been my biggest fear (aside from the price breaching the floor) for some time. Hopefully he won't change interest rates again. They are at about 0.75% now. In my opinion, i don't think he will move them. Lowering them to 0.50% is not really going to help the eurozone anymore than 0.75% has.
  • #9,084
  • Aug 14, 2012 1:23am Aug 14, 2012 1:23am
Quoting pipxster
Last time when someone worte here that fxpro has a good swap, in one week fxpro reduced swap and very soon turned it to negative.

Today AVA reduced their swap to one-third than before - now the swap is similar to FXCM or IBFX.

Probably a lot of people reads our forum and opens account for good swap so the brokers act.

Like that I dont think AVA is so good anymore, got spikes, quite unflexible, not exceptional swap anymore and very bad mobile platform.

Bammm.
No change at all on my ava mt4 account. Where did you get the info about ava reduction?
  • #9,085
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:06am Aug 14, 2012 5:06am
Does anyone really care ppi came in worse than expected
  • #9,086
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:35am Aug 14, 2012 5:35am
Quoting brinks
Does anyone really care ppi came in worse than expected
I think nobody cares on Swiss economic data now unless something really unexpected comes out. PPI, ZEW, KOF data is unimportant for eurchf performance. Only inflation related data, CPI is a bit important.

EUR data also don't influence that much too. Only speeches & announcements by Draghi or Jordan or Danthine will move this pair.

Recently SNB officials are very quiet, so only Draghi made this pair alive recently.
  • #9,087
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:36am Aug 14, 2012 5:36am
Quoting alaneth
I think nobody cares on Swiss economic data now unless something really unexpected comes out. PPI, ZEW, KOF data is unimportant for eurchf performance. Only inflation related data, CPI is a bit important.

EUR data also don't influence that much too. Only speeches & announcements by Draghi or Jordan or Danthine will move this pair.

Recently SNB officials are very quiet, so only Draghi made this pair alive recently.
Lower ppi shows no inflation pressure? Is that correct?
  • #9,088
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:46am Aug 14, 2012 5:46am
Quoting brinks
Lower ppi shows no inflation pressure? Is that correct?
lower ppi shows rather deflation pressure. PPI and CPI are both quite important, both are inflation-linked-figures. And thats the underlying for a floor rise (no inflation, or even worse deflation) or an end of the peg (when inflation finally arrived). So I think inflation linked figures are very important.
  • #9,089
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:48am Aug 14, 2012 5:48am
Quoting Swissie
lower ppi shows rather deflation pressure. PPI and CPI are both quite important, both are inflation-linked-figures. And thats the underlying for a floor rise (no inflation, or even worse deflation) or an end of the peg (when inflation finally arrived). So I think inflation linked figures are very important.
Yes so the lower ppi shows no real inflation pressure coming into the swiss economy
  • #9,090
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:54am Aug 14, 2012 5:54am
Quoting brinks
Lower ppi shows no inflation pressure? Is that correct?
PPI = Producer price index (an indirect measure of inflation)
CPI = Consumer price index (a direct measure of inflation)

lower means deflation, higher shows inflation.... correct me if I'm wrong.
  • #9,091
  • Aug 14, 2012 5:59am Aug 14, 2012 5:59am
Quoting alaneth
PPI = Producer price index (an indirect measure of inflation)
CPI = Consumer price index (a direct measure of inflation)

lower means deflation, higher shows inflation.... correct me if I'm wrong.
yes i think thats right
  • #9,092
  • Aug 14, 2012 7:25am Aug 14, 2012 7:25am
Another spike down on one of my platforms

1.19953

same as last time i guess

a price error

last time it happend we had the move up to 1.20280
  • #9,093
  • Aug 14, 2012 7:41am Aug 14, 2012 7:41am
Quoting brinks
Yes so the lower ppi shows no real inflation pressure coming into the swiss economy
not yet and not by the producing economy yet
  • #9,094
  • Edited 2:53pm Aug 14, 2012 7:42am | Edited 2:53pm
Quoting Swissie
not yet and not by the producing economy yet
That's good news then

What a complete piece of sh#t this pair is
  • #9,095
  • Aug 14, 2012 3:31pm Aug 14, 2012 3:31pm
0806 GMT [Dow Jones] The Swiss PPI reading shows franc pressure easing, says Sarasin, although the strong currency is still driving July producer and import costs. "We expect this development to continue and inflation to veer back to the zero mark in the course of the next quarters," says economist Alessandro Bee. "However, the oil price remains the big unknown, and a drop in oil prices could lead to strongly negative producer and import prices inflation again," he warns. ([email protected])


pressure easing? wtf?
  • #9,096
  • Aug 14, 2012 3:35pm Aug 14, 2012 3:35pm
0833 GMT [Dow Jones] Swiss producer/import prices will steady says Credit Suisse. Credit Suisse says the impact of the exchange rate is diminishing. "Over the next few months, producer and import prices are likely to be mostly impacted by commodity prices," says analyst Maxime Botteron. "In particular, the recent and sharp increase in oil prices should be reflected in higher import prices in the months to come," he argues. ([email protected])
  • #9,097
  • Aug 14, 2012 3:46pm Aug 14, 2012 3:46pm
* DJ Swiss Jul Prod Import Price Index -1.8% YY; Seen At -1.7% YY
* DJ Swiss Jul Prod Import Price Index -0.3% MM; Seen At -0.3% MM
* DJ Swiss Jul Producer Price Index -0.1% On Mo
* DJ Swiss Jul Import Price Index -0.7% On Mo
* DJ Swiss Jul Producer Price Index -0.8% On Year
* DJ Swiss Jul Import Price Index -3.8% On Year

14-Aug-2012
  • #9,098
  • Aug 14, 2012 3:53pm Aug 14, 2012 3:53pm
Quoting pipxster
* DJ Swiss Jul Prod Import Price Index -1.8% YY; Seen At -1.7% YY
* DJ Swiss Jul Prod Import Price Index -0.3% MM; Seen At -0.3% MM
* DJ Swiss Jul Producer Price Index -0.1% On Mo
* DJ Swiss Jul Import Price Index -0.7% On Mo
* DJ Swiss Jul Producer Price Index -0.8% On Year
* DJ Swiss Jul Import Price Index -3.8% On Year

14-Aug-2012
Who believes there will be sharp increase in oil price?
  • #9,099
  • Aug 15, 2012 2:08am Aug 15, 2012 2:08am
Quoting holmes
Who believes there will be sharp increase in oil price?
ask the israelian government
  • #9,100
  • Edited 5:36am Aug 15, 2012 4:49am | Edited 5:36am
Does anyone think the euro as a currency will collapse?

Will the euro zone countries go back to their original currencies?

As someone who is long on this pair and as long as the floor is in place it looks like the biggest risk is a complete collapse of the euro.
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