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  • #37,581
  • Edited 9:58am Jul 19, 2012 9:48am | Edited 9:58am
Quoting traderathome
EU: Entered long, per attached. See previous post for more details.
EU: Added 2nd long trade, per attached. The initial SL remains a mental SL, now on both trades.
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  • #37,582
  • Jul 19, 2012 9:54am Jul 19, 2012 9:54am
Quoting Msis125125
NOW THIS IS VALID SETUP BY SONIC.

i cant stree it more, do not post sh*t charts that do not correspond sonic rules, wanna share it, share it else where.

Sonic, tah i think something should be done, i am quick learner and i took 5 steps back as a trader coz people post all sorts of wounderfull things in here that has nothing to do with sonic.

Many times someone post something and never tell if it reached SL ot how bih was the takings, its like post what ever pops into they had and then to be shamed to show loss.

If post has been made with...

SL reached!
There is no spoon....
  • #37,583
  • Jul 19, 2012 10:21am Jul 19, 2012 10:21am
Quoting makassar
carefull , eu sideways, BBand still flat

what is ure blue lines (tunel) can you share them please?

There is no spoon....
  • #37,584
  • Jul 19, 2012 10:24am Jul 19, 2012 10:24am
who asked for h4 high low indicator?

here is it!
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There is no spoon....
  • #37,585
  • Jul 19, 2012 10:30am Jul 19, 2012 10:30am
Quoting Msis125125
Dude BIAS is a pink wave, it should be oposit your trading and above/below dragon on oposit entrance
Yes, and no. In attached see examples of long trades, one where Dragon is not above Trend, and one where Dragon is above Trend. Ignore the fact I had to drop to the M1 chart to find two good examples on one chart.

As you can see, both trades were decent. Only by chance does one run longer than the other. Another pair of examples might show the opposite. The point being that there might be less risk, all other things being equal, if the Dragon is above the Trend for a long trade. But it does not necessarily mean the trade will run further.
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  • #37,586
  • Jul 19, 2012 10:42am Jul 19, 2012 10:42am
EU short closed at DS1 (+18), GU long closed at TP1 (+23). Not a bad day at all.
  • #37,587
  • Edited 11:46am Jul 19, 2012 11:10am | Edited 11:46am
Quoting albus999
trying to learn the sonic style of trading has a tough one for me especially getting the PA wave correct.
Msis125125, could you kindly upload the indy on your chart that shows the highs and lows of the PA.thanks in advance.
Quoting Msis125125
what is ure blue lines (tunel) can you share them please?
Quoting Msis125125
who asked for h4 high low indicator?
here is it!

Msis125125 is in little bit confussion with High BP. Whenever his BP goes high he is the only one who often use the word f**k on the thread. Here is the correct h4 high low indicator.
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  • #37,588
  • Jul 19, 2012 11:27am Jul 19, 2012 11:27am
thanks Gurukrish . Msis125125, guess u misunderstood me but thanks all the same.
  • #37,589
  • Edited 12:27pm Jul 19, 2012 11:41am | Edited 12:27pm
In my quest to simplify things, and get back to the basics with SonicR, I stumbled across this pdf.

It's a sort of compilation of SonicR things written in December of 2009 by someone named Vytautas. His last post in the thread was in February of 2010. I don't know what became of him (hope he's alright), but he seems to have vanished now.

I do not know the fellow, but I did find the pdf to be interesting. There is a bit of a language barrier hurdle to get over, but it's not too bad.

He espouses a more bare-bones approach to SonicR, and it is certainly worth the time it takes to read it (it's only 17 pages long).

I am just as guilty as anyone of wanting to find the "perfect indicator" but the fact of the matter is, we don't need it. We already have everything we could possibly need on the templates TAH has provided for us. We have all heard TAH preach that all the "fluff" is unnecessary (and quite possibly, detrimental) for trading the SonicR Way, but many of us just won't accept it.

So, if we are serious about wanting to trade the SonicR method of trading, we should make the decision to break free of all the baggage and get with the program. Until we do, we are not trading the SonicR method, and we are just kidding ourselves if we think we are.

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  • #37,590
  • Edited 12:47pm Jul 19, 2012 12:36pm | Edited 12:47pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
In my quest to simplify things, and get back to the basics with SonicR, I stumbled across this pdf.

It's a sort of compilation of SonicR things written in December of 2009 by someone named Vytautas. His last post in the thread was in February of 2010. I don't know what became of him (hope he's alright), but he seems to have vanished now.

I do not know the fellow, but I did find the pdf to be interesting. There is a bit of a language barrier hurdle to get over, but it's not too bad.

He espouses a more bare-bones approach to SonicR, and it...
Personally, I think you are headed in the correct direction, ArtfulDodger.

ddaytrader professed all that was needed were the price bars, Dragon and a working knowledge of support and resistance. He used the Day formula pivots (without mid-pivots) in the background of his chart as a guide to which historic S&R areas to chose for his TPs. That's it! And he was highly successful keeping it simple like that.

Whether one uses as a guide for selecting which historic S&R levels to place TPs at, a background of pivots, or whole/half numbers (natural S&R), or both, I concur that all that is truely needed are the price bars, Dragon and a working knowledge of S&R.

Some other aids came into being to help the trader, and are included in the Control Panel. Paramount are the range marks for the day, because these can definately help traders to keep TPs reasonably placed for the day. And the vertical market lines are a very important visual aide. Aside from those, really perhaps, everything else might be considered optional. And with the more "options" added, there is the danger of losing the simplicity that allows proper focus on the key elements: PA, Dragon and S&R.

Consider the simplicity of the attached chart. Don't know where PA is going next, or you're not sure? Perfect! We shouldn't know! We shouldn't even think we should know! What we should do is focus on the price bars, the Dragon, and wait for a proper setup. And at that time, study historic S&R to see where a run might pause, or stop for the day....

....PA, Dragon, S&R!
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  • #37,591
  • Jul 19, 2012 1:11pm Jul 19, 2012 1:11pm
Quoting ArtfulDodger
In my quest to simplify things, and get back to the basics with SonicR, I stumbled across this pdf.

It's a sort of compilation of SonicR things written in December of 2009 by someone named Vytautas. His last post in the thread was in February of 2010. I don't know what became of him (hope he's alright), but he seems to have vanished now.

I do not know the fellow, but I did find the pdf to be interesting. There is a bit of a language barrier hurdle to get over, but it's not too bad.

He espouses a more bare-bones approach to SonicR, and it...
Thanks ArtfulDodger,

You have done wonderful job. This is i was searching. I am deeply reading the content. I feel Vytautas is directly teaching his experience about Sonic R through this PDF manual. I am in the 6 th page. I want to share some points from the PDF intresting.


I don't trade on "looks bearish" or "looks bullish." I trade on Highs and Lows. I leave the "looks bearish" or "looks bullish" for the "smart" people.



Do set your stop loss based upon support and resistance, and if price hits your stop, let the position be closed and move on to the next entry signal



I have found that when the entry point is too far above or below the dragon, then price often does not reach even the first TP.



Price does not care about news.



I have to read remaining in the morning.
Have a good day.
Good Morning or Good Night (1:30 AM).
  • #37,592
  • Jul 19, 2012 1:25pm Jul 19, 2012 1:25pm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/presen...sd-dip-and-rip
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  • #37,593
  • Edited 5:48pm Jul 19, 2012 5:37pm | Edited 5:48pm
Good morning Everyone,

Today a late starting after yesterday' long road journey covering more than 700Km. Needed some rest after that.

As my daily routine, I read post#1 again. It is back to the basics for me today and will spend more time looking into the problem in placing SL for trades.

Aussie had a good run for 3 days and right now looks like early sign of activity I see using VSA. The bulls may be taking a detour but the target remains the same 1.06. Good for some bears now to enjoy the sightseeing ...near to 1.033.

Good Trading Ahead to ALL.


Edit: Forgot to mention the H4 Double Inside Bar (DIB). Many traders will trade this as setup. Stay on the right side and wait out.
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  • #37,594
  • Jul 19, 2012 5:44pm Jul 19, 2012 5:44pm
WoW!
yesterday so many posts, ...now I have hard time to catch-up with you guys. Talk later.

cheers!
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  • #37,595
  • Jul 19, 2012 5:48pm Jul 19, 2012 5:48pm
WIll the price break down the DPV or rebounce up? I don;t know that yet. But one thing that sure to me is when it broke down then i'll short it. but when it bounce up i do nothing till it borke the RWH see daily TF
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  • #37,596
  • Jul 19, 2012 5:52pm Jul 19, 2012 5:52pm
Quoting scuderia
WIll the price break down the DPV or rebounce up? I don;t know that yet. But one thing that sure to me is when it broke down then i'll short it. but when it bounce up i do nothing till it borke the RWH see daily TF

Yes, you pointed out very well.
I watch yesterday's low and also today S1 1.037

Go to go now. Talk later when FFM open.

regards,
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #37,597
  • Jul 19, 2012 9:41pm Jul 19, 2012 9:41pm
GU short on break of DPV TP is 78pips

Stop Loss only activated on a closed 4hr candle above previous high.
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  • #37,598
  • Jul 19, 2012 9:50pm Jul 19, 2012 9:50pm
Quoting worldfreedom
GU short on break of DPV TP is 78pips

Stop Loss only activated on a closed 4hr candle above previous high.
hello can you tell me what is yur basis to put TP for 78 pips>
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  • #37,599
  • Jul 19, 2012 9:58pm Jul 19, 2012 9:58pm
Quoting scuderia
hello can you tell me what is yur basis to put TP for 78 pips>
The 4hr 50ema is a very strong resistance area. The 78 pips is approximate distance from my pending order. The RDL is also right below so I feel there will likely be a bounce there. If price action allows I will stay longer but I would be happy with 78pips and I do not want to be greedy.

World Freedom
  • #37,600
  • Jul 19, 2012 10:11pm Jul 19, 2012 10:11pm
Quoting worldfreedom
The 4hr 50ema is a very strong resistance area. The 78 pips is approximate distance from my pending order. The RDL is also right below so I feel there will likely be a bounce there. If price action allows I will stay longer but I would be happy with 78pips and I do not want to be greedy.

World Freedom
Well i'd happy just to take 40 pips. If PA break the other SR then i'll go for another 70 pips. but for me 40 pips must be banked first.
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