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  • #14,641
  • Jul 14, 2012 4:30pm Jul 14, 2012 4:30pm
Quoting Evaluator
Realjumper,

OK...let us put things into context and not take them out of order.
First, long before these two post I said the markt your reach the 1.21500 level. At that level I expected a bounce. (see post #14296)

I have never waivered that my bias was down to atleast 1.21500. Then as price action reached the 1.22000 mark I began warning people NOT to trade sells below that number and I said I was not taking any more sellorders below that mark...Then...
Of course you think I'm wrong......you've never admitted to ever being wrong....about anything have you?......even when it is proven time and time again by mister market.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #14,642
  • Jul 14, 2012 4:49pm Jul 14, 2012 4:49pm
Quoting lhDT
Humm ... Seems that tread is almost hitting stop-loss.
Why don't you guys explain cleary how do u trade Symphonie instead of make that "basic-shool-like" mini-war ?

If you all wants to help newbies & rookie traders, that's maybe the way to start ...

Although I don't use Symphonie but was following since months, I will post in the next few days my way of trading. And this can be adapted with Symphonie indicator pack.

But of course, I'm also wrong & right sometimes, even pro-trader does (I'm not considering myself as a pro). See that...
  • #14,643
  • Jul 14, 2012 5:00pm Jul 14, 2012 5:00pm
Oh my,

I have seen it before so often on other threads. Great traders seem to have the biggest egos. And it always ends up with some of the best traders leaving. Must be some kind of a rule written in stone. It seems there is no middleway.

It was good as long as it lasted, but it looks like we are coming to an end now. I does not have to be, but as long as the opponents are not cool enough to calm down and go back to business like they should be used to in trading we are closer to an end than to a future that would help everybody.

Really sorry to see that ego shit happen again.

What is the problem? For me it is no question that ohammand and realjumper are right, but it is also the right of evaluator to say "then just ignore me". To be honest I did just that when I saw the contradictories in Evalīs statements, I saw them as impulsive opinions. Everybody trades on his or her own and you can agree with Eval or you donīt. Just yesterday I disagreed with Eval and it was no problem. I do not think it is an argument to call Eval a general or even lousy trader, but even this opinion can be tolerated. No one is forced to follow him. If you think you are better than him (and maybe you are) then it is good for you, it would be even better to share the trades or views here.

Eval did nothing more than giving a system that was further improved by others (you may add your own rules for your personal style) and everything else he says is just a personal opinion. Even a newbie should know that or otherwise he will fail anyway.

I am just coming here for Yelena, Ohammond, Realjumper and Evaluator to look for their opinions and wins or losses and what they did better than me. I would never copy one of their trades even with a gun at my head as long as their suggestions would not fit into my personal rules. This is the only recommendation someone can give.

Just my 2 cents after trading for 2,5 years. I hate this drying out of good threads, the same is happening on Kenīs "completely useless" thread and that of Tarantula too. Maybe you people can overthink your attitudes if your egos are not overwhelming you.
  • #14,644
  • Jul 14, 2012 5:05pm Jul 14, 2012 5:05pm
Quoting realjumper
Of course you think I'm wrong......you've never admitted to ever being wrong....about anything have you?......even when it is proven time and time again by mister market.

RealJumper,

I have always owned up to my mistakes and this thread is full of them. So, let us take a walk back in time to when I said you were right and I was wrong....see post #230

Also, you should also check out post #216 while you are that far back in time. You will see I have been totally consistant in my posts.

Facts do not support your arguements but they do support mine. Again, let us please stop the petty you said this and you never admit that and concentrate on trading the markt. After all that is what this thread is about? Making pips in the markt.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,645
  • Jul 14, 2012 5:23pm Jul 14, 2012 5:23pm
Quoting CandleStar
Oh my,

I have seen it before so often on other threads. Great traders seem to have the biggest egos. And it always ends up with some of the best traders leaving. Must be some kind of a rule written in stone. It seems there is no middleway.

It was good as long as it lasted, but it looks like we are coming to an end now. I does not have to be, but as long as the opponents are not cool enough to calm down and go back to business like they should be used to in trading we are closer to an end than to a future that would help everybody.

Really sorry...
CandleStar,

Thank you for your post. It is welcomed and appreciated. As I hae stated many times....I have no ego to bruise and I will freely admit when I am wrong when the facts plainly point that out. However, I believe in this specific case the facts are on myside. I believe you will find my links in my argument are strong or else I would not have made them.

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I saw the contradictories in Evalīs statements,

Care to explain? I see none especially if you re read my post I think I backed it in fact when you take my posts in the exact order made on the thread. There is no contradiction.

Now maybe we can get back to the real issue of trading and making pips and stop all the freaking petty crap and concentrate on what really matters.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,646
  • Jul 14, 2012 5:37pm Jul 14, 2012 5:37pm
Quoting wiz3003
RJ and eval,

I am testing in parallel 3 Symphonie matrix.
1) version 3.0.1. (old sentiment) which is my actual template
2) the Matrix of Xaphod : STS version
3) the Matrix of Xaphod : STSi version

As you can see in the enclosed pictures I have a problem with the STS version only in the H4 and D1 TF because BB line is always white while in all other TFs it seems to work properly (W1 and M1 too).

Have you the same issue or does it depend on something I do?

Could you share with me your settings for the xaphod matrix?

Thank you

ciao

wiz...

I am still "evaluating"" this new Symphonie matrix system. So, I currently have no opinion to offer you at this time. I am only test the STS version of Xaphod. I have not even downloaded the other.

Evaluator.:nerd:
  • #14,647
  • Jul 14, 2012 6:02pm Jul 14, 2012 6:02pm
Quoting wiz3003
This week I lost about 15% in my real account ...

Matrix gave me a good signal 60-5 and even if it was risky and not completely according to my trading rules I increased the number of lots and entered short in the EU…. Just to make some pips I thought and save my week.

Fortunately I learnt to cut my losses as soon as I understand I must; tomorrow is another day and I am still here stronger than yesterday.

I decided to share with you my experience...
Thanks for sharing Wiz ... that's indeed a tough break ... if I understand correctly, you're basically saying you lost about 13% of your account on one trade?

It indeed serves as a strong reminder to newer traders :

  1. always stay within your risk % per trade
  2. no matter how certain you are something will happen, never go outside your risk parameters, because when you least expect it, something unexpected will happen


One thing I wanted to be clear on - did you actually set a stop loss, or did you leave it, assuming that your trade would be safe?

Not that it would change much - assuming you're using ARS, then a 50 pip SL (or any pip SL really) multiplied by increased lots is always going to do lots of damage.

It's a tough lesson and I'm sure you're kicking yourself ... on the flipside, although it was a huge drawdown, your account is still intact at least (i.e. not a margin call), and I'm sure you can trade your way out of it.

Again, thanks for sharing - it's a good lesson / reminder for all.

1 pip at a time ... if the entries are strong, the rest will follow ...
  • #14,648
  • Jul 14, 2012 6:11pm Jul 14, 2012 6:11pm
Sorry to be a pain, but is the templet posted on the 1st page the lastest ? lots of indies posted.
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #14,649
  • Jul 15, 2012 12:12am Jul 15, 2012 12:12am
I asked Eval and he said to download all of the indicators from post one. I am using Symphonie v3.0 Pack. I use the Symphonie Matrix Indikator v3.0.1 (old Sentiment). Eval indicated that was the best and most recent. Eval - correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks

Quoting traco1
Sorry to be a pain, but is the templet posted on the 1st page the lastest ? lots of indies posted.
Without vision, the people will perish.
  • #14,650
  • Jul 15, 2012 4:52am Jul 15, 2012 4:52am
Quoting traco1
Sorry to be a pain, but is the templet posted on the 1st page the lastest ? lots of indies posted.

traco,

All the latest indikators, the ones I use, are located on post#1.

Evalautor.:nerd:
  • #14,651
  • Jul 15, 2012 8:21am Jul 15, 2012 8:21am
Xaphod and Cody_R
thanks guys, now we can go back and check without worrying if the indi repainted,great job,Thanks
and to all the senior traders here,we're getting better tools all the time,I think this is the best thread in FF so why argue and lose patience with each other
,in a true democracy everybody has the right to say whatever they want,
it's up to us to follow or not,after all they're just opinions.
[b]Just remember, we elect our governments so they can be kings and steal from us[/B
  • #14,652
  • Jul 15, 2012 11:44am Jul 15, 2012 11:44am
Thanks alot, looking forward to trying out the system.
Look at something long enough, you will eventually get it.
  • #14,653
  • Jul 15, 2012 2:07pm Jul 15, 2012 2:07pm
Well now that the weekend drama is hopefully over we can return to the business of trading and making pips.

Friday was a very unexpected day in that as the EURUSD reached down to touch just below the S1 support level at 1.21620 at that point the Russians stepped in and killed any notion of a continued Bearisch trend in the EURUSD and caused a massive 80 pip reversal in 15 mins or less.

That reversal seems to have stopped the Bears in their tracks and I closed all my Sell positions as the price broke back above the much fought over 1.2200 level. Also we can see from Friday's close the markt help the rally and added to it push the price level to 1.22479 at the close.

This close did two major things that traders should take clear notice. First the price action broke and held above the decending down channel. Second the Friday price action broke and held above the 60 SMA line that I use to guage trend.

We also as you can see from the screenshot we have a strong hourly Buy on Symphonie telling one that the trending is to the upside. Therfore with these three factors taken into consideration it appears we have a reversal taking place.

So, now we have to see if Monday will either retouch the top of the downchannel (as is normal in a break) or does the strength of Friday's powerful reversal momentum point to more push from this point forward. Personally my bet is a small retracement then rise higher....But there is another thing that could throw a curve to the whole rally and that is Greece.

Greece has not implemented but 10% of the 300 conditions that the TROKIA imposed as conditions for receiving further bailout measure from the later part of June which saved the entire Greece Bond markt.

According to a leaking Trokia EU Commission report; ''Apparently, it was even worse. Elements of their preliminary and still unpublished report due by the end of July seeped out: it painted an “awful picture”; of the 300 specific measures to be implemented by now, 210 were completely ignored and left by the wayside. This is the report that the Troika will use in deciding whether or not to send the next bailout tranche to Greece. And without this money, Greece will have to default and most likely exit the Eurozone.''

If no further funds are to be distributed to Greece by the first of this week Greece will begin defaulting on its bonds by Friday and Tuesday as interest payments on Greece bonds come due and payable.

That combined with a new poll released this weekend 58% of Germans want their Deutsche Mark back, up from 39% in 2010. That alone will put political pressure on Merkel administration for no revision to existing conditions for Bailout funds to Greece. However, according ot new in Germany Kanzlerin Frau Merkel said she might be willing to delay implementation by “a few weeks”—not the two years the Greek government is seeking. This may stall out the process long enough for spinless EU politicians pull another trick to prop up this failing policy of paying Greece extortion money to keep the EURO alive.

In either event this next week will be telling as show traders which way the markt should move on the next turns in the EURUSD.

Best of luck in trading next week.

Evaluator.:nerd:
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  • #14,654
  • Jul 15, 2012 2:27pm Jul 15, 2012 2:27pm
Quoting Evaluator
Well now that the weekend drama is hopefully over we can return to the business of trading and making pips.

Friday was a very unexpected day in that as the EURUSD reached down to touch just below the S1 support level at 1.21620 at that point the Russians stepped in and killed any notion of a continued Bearisch trend in the EURUSD and caused a massive 80 pip reversal in 15 mins or less...
A Good read
  • #14,655
  • Jul 15, 2012 3:10pm Jul 15, 2012 3:10pm
Anyone else having pages not loading properly at FF since Saturday?
  • #14,656
  • Jul 15, 2012 3:13pm Jul 15, 2012 3:13pm
Quoting olivierforex
Anyone else having pages not loading properly at FF since Saturday?
Yep. I'm having that problem too. It's quite annoying.
  • #14,657
  • Jul 15, 2012 3:55pm Jul 15, 2012 3:55pm
Quoting olivierforex
Anyone else having pages not loading properly at FF since Saturday?
It seems like other people also had that problem this weekend:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=373693
  • #14,658
  • Jul 15, 2012 3:56pm Jul 15, 2012 3:56pm
Quoting miw14
Yep. I'm having that problem too. It's quite annoying.
Back to normal now it seems but thanks for your reply nevertheless
  • #14,659
  • Jul 15, 2012 4:00pm Jul 15, 2012 4:00pm
Quoting olivierforex
Back to normal now it seems but thanks for your reply nevertheless
Possibly ForexFactory maintence on their servers.
  • #14,660
  • Jul 15, 2012 5:19pm Jul 15, 2012 5:19pm
Quoting dudele2
Xaphod and Cody_R
thanks guys, now we can go back and check without worrying if the indi repainted,great job,Thanks
You're welcome, dudele2. My goal is a collaborative effort to help everyone trade more profitably.

--Cody
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