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  • #651,861
  • Jun 5, 2012 6:54am Jun 5, 2012 6:54am
Quoting daemon_delux
What Kiwi is trying to say is that you need to complete your education, and never trade against a trend unless you're extremely good at forex. Go to babypips.com/school and try to see the basics for trend identifying, market positioning & co.

Good luck.
Thanks both, I will do. But as you say never trade against a trend - so, for ie in this moment trend is bearish and who is on bullish side is against of trend, correct? My problem when I see something like this is that, as Kiwi say, your information is not complete because is measing for example TF. If I open a long position now with TP for 10-15 pips, I still have a big chance to close he position - even I'm against the trend and I can repeat the this couple times without be wrong or extremly good. So, in my opinion if you post this and in order to not confuse unexperiented persons is better to add more info and avoid general speaking.
  • #651,862
  • Jun 5, 2012 6:54am Jun 5, 2012 6:54am
Quoting daemon_delux
NO WAY! DON'T TELL ME!!!

YOUR GUT TOLD YOU THAT TOO?

Now, on a more serious note, please post some analysis, or don't post at all. You're not usefull like this.
There are many ways to make money out of forex his way has just as much chance as yours so you shouldnt make him feel that he cant post just because he trades differently to you
  • #651,863
  • Jun 5, 2012 6:54am Jun 5, 2012 6:54am
S&P 500 futures have recovered back into their overnigt short term range following a break out to the downside during Fed's Fischer's comments....

we're gonna need some more news to get a clean full fledged break of S1
  • #651,864
  • Jun 5, 2012 6:58am Jun 5, 2012 6:58am
Quoting KiwiTrada
interesting with your ma,s was just try explain a good use forthem, everyoneknow market movers watch certain ma,s especially high tf,s weekly monthly, in fact qaurterly crosses are called "death crosses" they watch like hawks, major sentiment indicator,

well am watching 30 min eu, 200sma and 50 sma, this level she now stuck at, is inline with the last cross up 2411
her has just fell out bear flag 30 min and stuck here.
as per ma,s bulls need defend this level to have chance of keeping the average price climbing ie eu go up, if bulls fail, 50...
good night
Trade What You See Not What You Want To See
  • #651,865
  • Jun 5, 2012 6:59am Jun 5, 2012 6:59am
Quoting gabone
Thanks both, I will do. But as you say never trade against a trend - so, for ie in this moment trend is bearish and who is on bullish side is against of trend, correct? My problem when I see something like this is that, as Kiwi say, your information is not complete because is measing for example TF. If I open a long position now with TP for 10-15 pips, I still have a big chance to close he position - even I'm against the trend and I can repeat the this couple times without be wrong or extremly good. So, in my opinion if you post this and in order...
Very simple rule to keep in mind. Start from monthly -> daily -> H4
now stop what you see? If its downtrend you go to lower TF's and if you trade on them you are only looking to sell and don't care much about bounce here and there. This is the "safest" way to trade.
Some guys scalp against the trend sometimes and that's fine. As long as MM allow them to do that and RR is solid.
For you first option.
swing it!
  • #651,866
  • Jun 5, 2012 6:59am Jun 5, 2012 6:59am
Quoting gabone
Thanks both, I will do. But as you say never trade against a trend - so, for ie in this moment trend is bearish and who is on bullish side is against of trend, correct? My problem when I see something like this is that, as Kiwi say, your information is not complete because is measing for example TF. If I open a long position now with TP for 10-15 pips, I still have a big chance to close he position - even I'm against the trend and I can repeat the this couple times without be wrong or extremly good. So, in my opinion if you post this and in order...
If you open short term positions and the short term is bullish (as was yesterday) it's ok. But keep the general picture in mind, and always look at bigger TF's (4h,daily).

@megajester

I don't have something with people who trade differently than I do, as long as they come with arguments and analysis as why'd they do that. I can come tomorrow and say 1.38 is on my charts, and a bunch of newbies will go long IN A BEAR TREND! See my point?

I don't mind him babbling around here, as long as he comes with a pertinent analysis, or an impertinent one that's open to other people's opinion. All of my posted trades are accompanied by an explanation regardin my analysis.
Please, just slap me around if I'm being silly ...
  • #651,867
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:01am Jun 5, 2012 7:01am
Quoting KiwiTrada
interesting with your ma,s was just try explain a good use forthem, everyoneknow market movers watch certain ma,s especially high tf,s weekly monthly, in fact qaurterly crosses are called "death crosses" they watch like hawks, major sentiment indicator,

well am watching 30 min eu, 200sma and 50 sma, this level she now stuck at, is inline with the last cross up 2411
her has just fell out bear flag 30 min and stuck here.
as per ma,s bulls need defend this level to have chance of keeping the average price climbing ie eu go up, if bulls fail, 50...
2410 looks set to break

yes moving average slopes and crossovers are very important

there is just so many to choose from, i think you have to experiment

thanks again for the vouch, im getting off here too, later
An opportunity lost is not a capital cost.
  • #651,868
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:02am Jun 5, 2012 7:02am
On a side note, China just declined all help towards the EU, so they have to come up with the money somewhere else.
Please, just slap me around if I'm being silly ...
  • #651,869
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:03am Jun 5, 2012 7:03am
Quoting gabone
Thanks both, I will do. But as you say never trade against a trend - so, for ie in this moment trend is bearish and who is on bullish side is against of trend, correct? My problem when I see something like this is that, as Kiwi say, your information is not complete because is measing for example TF. If I open a long position now with TP for 10-15 pips, I still have a big chance to close he position - even I'm against the trend and I can repeat the this couple times without be wrong or extremly good. So, in my opinion if you post this and in order...
nopeI not saying that, for me personally, dont care about trend, if my indicators say sell I sell, I often am selling support, 2nd broken rule, this work for me nice, but I have very strict criteria for entry and trade plan, is more about risk appetite, so never buy resistance, never sell support, never trade against trend, this is safest method,

but I do all 3,
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  • #651,870
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:03am Jun 5, 2012 7:03am
Quoting daemon_delux
If you open short term positions and the short term is bullish (as was yesterday) it's ok. But keep the general picture in mind, and always look at bigger TF's (4h,daily).

@megajester

I don't have something with people who trade differently than I do, as long as they come with arguments and analysis as why'd they do that. I can come tomorrow and say 1.38 is on my charts, and a bunch of newbies will go long IN A BEAR TREND! See my point?

I don't mind him babbling around here, as long as he comes with a pertinent analysis, or an impertinent...
well said bud
Trade What You See Not What You Want To See
  • #651,871
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:04am Jun 5, 2012 7:04am
Quoting daemon_delux
It's gonna crack. I'm more worried about 04.

How're you doin'?
i changed my mind about being quiet. nothing personal, this is just first post i found with your analysis. very detailed explained and opened for others opinion. lol
  • #651,872
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:04am Jun 5, 2012 7:04am
Quoting pipsallday
well said bud
To which part are you refferin', bro'?
Please, just slap me around if I'm being silly ...
  • #651,873
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:05am Jun 5, 2012 7:05am
Quoting shmandi
i changed my mind about being quiet. nothing personal, this is just first post i found with your analysis. very detailed explained and opened for others opinion. lol
You want another 4 posts beginning since 8hrs ago with analysis, and contrary analysis at news? I can provide them, they're a few page earlier.

LE : or analysis since the NFP, last friday? Or analysis since 3 months ago? cut the crap, and start posting something useful. You're welcome to my ignore list, anyway.
Please, just slap me around if I'm being silly ...
  • #651,874
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:05am Jun 5, 2012 7:05am
Quoting daemon_delux
On a side note, China just declined all help towards the EU, so they have to come up with the money somewhere else.
ECB buys printers from Canon. Ctrl+P, distribute to every bank in Europe, watch as every debt crisis ends but new crisis begins.

Rinse and repeat like the Fed.
  • #651,875
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:06am Jun 5, 2012 7:06am
Quoting daemon_delux
On a side note, China just declined all help towards the EU, so they have to come up with the money somewhere else.
So this is probably moment that Rogers was talking about - "markets will eventually say no Mrs Merkel we don't believe you and we will not give you any money" - there is no market without confidence - scary stuff
swing it!
  • #651,876
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:06am Jun 5, 2012 7:06am
its continue down and expected in couple of hours at level of 1.2380.
  • #651,877
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:09am Jun 5, 2012 7:09am
Quoting Esssex
ECB buys printers from Canon. Ctrl+P, distribute to every bank in Europe, watch as every debt crisis ends but new crisis begins.

Rinse and repeat like the Fed.
Yup, that'd mean that EU is at 1, maybe 0.9.

@Tom

If they don't come with a wonder fund from this G7 meeting and Greece goes anti-bailout, the EU is going down, severely.
Please, just slap me around if I'm being silly ...
  • #651,878
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:09am Jun 5, 2012 7:09am
[quote=daemon_delux;5729713]If you open short term positions and the short term is bullish (as was yesterday) it's ok. But keep the general picture in mind, and always look at bigger TF's (4h,daily).

@megajester

I don't have something with people who trade differently than I do, as long as they come with arguments and analysis as why'd they do that. I can come tomorrow and say 1.38 is on my charts, and a bunch of newbies will go long IN A BEAR TREND! See my point?

this bit
Trade What You See Not What You Want To See
  • #651,879
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:09am Jun 5, 2012 7:09am
  •  brigo
  • | Joined Oct 2008 | Status: the early bird catches the worm | 45 Posts
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  • #651,880
  • Jun 5, 2012 7:10am Jun 5, 2012 7:10am
Guys...
Isn't it a nice bearish continuation flag building up on 1M and 5M TF?

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