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  • #9,641
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:14am Apr 21, 2012 8:14am
Quoting scott-ibm
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non repainting TMA ?, can we get the non repainting TMA ??

where can I get this non repainting TMA ??

please ~

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http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...32#post5407032
  • #9,642
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:17am Apr 21, 2012 8:17am
Quoting scott-ibm
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Dear Robert :

non repainting TMA ?, can we get the non repainting TMA ??

where can I get this non repainting TMA ??

please ~

SCOTT-ibm
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Hey Scott here it is I've modified the colors a bit but it's easy to so you can change them to your liking.

Robert
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  • #9,643
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:33am Apr 21, 2012 8:33am
Quoting harry45
Frank,first of all Semafor gives You main direction to trade(sett.204 ,or more),
You can see swings and, as a result,add positions or partly exit(sett. 7, 28,34).
As to enter-the best way is to follow the rules.
Best Regards
Harry,
I think Extreme TMA is a great system, and it's only logical to use recovery method with it. But I'm psychologically retarded. I still like to trade with stop losses. Semafor was part of my effort to try to confirm more precise entries. I've studied this indi. I understand basically how to use it. Thanks for your help.
Best Regards
Frank
Wishing my last name were LESS
  • #9,644
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:36am Apr 21, 2012 8:36am
Quoting frollollc
I'm wondering.....Should we consider these ratios as "smart money" and follow their lead, or should we look at this data as a contrarian indicator, i.e. if a very high percentage of positions are short, then we should look for longs? I, for one, would see a very high ratio as a contrarian indicator. If everybody is selling, then who is left to sell more?
There are two ways to look at it, of course, but from my experience and from reading about the subject, especially the great William OīNeill books, a high short interest is dangerous for the longs. Selling begets selling. Donīt assume that because there are already many shorts, there canīt be many more. The immense majority of currency speculators are not short yet, plus, shorts can pyramid with even more shorts creating an avalanche.I for one tend to stay away from stocks with a high short Open Interest. What do all those people know that I donīt? A similar thing happens in Forex.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,645
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:39am Apr 21, 2012 8:39am
Quoting MMGood47
I have a little advantage in answering that question as I am in South Carolina, just a few hours away from Calabash, so the story is familiar.

By the way, Calabash is home to some of the best seafood I've ever had. Of course I can't say the best anywhere but I can say in the US, I have been to the 4 corners of this great country. Hopefully someday I will be able to visit Spain and drop in on Al. I need to add to my bucket list
Hey guys, I can comfortably sleep 10 guests in my home so you are welcome to come whenever you feel like it. Ten at a time that is ...
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,646
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:43am Apr 21, 2012 8:43am
Hey thanks Robert, that might come in handy! Much appreciated

Quoting Surfnomad
Connected I do have a historical pivot and mid pivot plotter that goes back as many days as you tell it to. It displays standard pivots not fib pivots and the levels are not labeled but they are color coded if you want it I'd be happy to post it for you and explain my color coding. Also when back testing I use the non repainting TMA.

Robert
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  • #9,647
  • Edited 9:04am Apr 21, 2012 8:46am | Edited 9:04am
Quoting Favorite
For the main direction we have MTF TMA, don't we? Just put TMA M15, TMA H1 and TMA H4 on the same M15 chart and you really see the main direction. In the first post Al says: "Having 3 TMAs on one chart is extremely helpful for determining longer time frame trends and combined, they have high predictive value of future market moves."

And for the partly exits we have TMA's center line. And for the exits we have the upper/lower TMA's borders.

As to adding positions - I would like to hear Al's opinion: is it really a smart thing...
I basically agree with you but you have to admit itīs cool looking...

As far as adding positions, if you are in a scalping mode, you can trade the M5 or M15 bands in and out, but if you are going with a strong trend, what I do is add a little when price retraces to center line and I see a two bar stall. It works like a charm. Especially when the M15 is inside a rising H1 and H4 channels (For long, opposite for short). When M15 reaches the top of H1, I stop adding because the probability of M15 coming down or sideways to H1 opposite band is high.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,648
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:55am Apr 21, 2012 8:55am
To see you trade live would be great training Al may I ask have you ever made a video of your trading?

I did my first video of closing a trade this week with Camtasia Screen Recorder (freeware), I thought why not document them on video instead of just saving a screenshot chart? I can replay the glory lol!


Quoting Alorente
Hey guys, I can comfortably sleep 10 guests in my home so you are welcome to come whenever you feel like it. Ten at a time that is ...
Tracking the Specialists.
  • #9,649
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:55am Apr 21, 2012 8:55am
Quoting frollollc
Another thought .......Long Ratio is near its recent low extremes, but price hasn't even retraced 50% during the same time period. Does this represent a significant divergence? And if so, shouldn't we be expecting lower prices from here, especially if the long ratio starts rising? Hmmmmm......
In my view, the psychology is simple to understand. As price falls, it attracts more and more buyers simply due to the fact that price is "cheaper" than it was a day or two ago. Humans are naturally attracted to "bargains". So itīs not that a growing number of longs makes price falls, it is that as price falls the number of longs increases.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,650
  • Apr 21, 2012 8:59am Apr 21, 2012 8:59am
Quoting Alorente
I basically agree with you but you have to admit itīs cool looking...
Yes, especially the version that has the "skull" label!


Quoting Alorente
As far as adding positions, if you are in a scalping mode, you can trade the M5 or M15 bands in and out, but if you are going with a strong trend, what I do is add a little when price retraces to center line and I see a two bar stall. It works like a charm. Especially when the M15 inside a rising H1 and H4 channels (For long, opposite for short). When M15 reaches the top of H1, I stop adding because the probability of M15 coming down or sideways to H1 opposite band is high.
Thank you, Al! It is very interesting, I'll try it next week!
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #9,651
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:01am Apr 21, 2012 9:01am
Quoting Connected
To see you trade live would be great training Al may I ask have you ever made a video of your trading?

I did my first video of closing a trade this week with Camtasia Screen Recorder (freeware), I thought why not document them on video instead of just saving a screenshot chart? I can replay the glory lol!
That would be quite boring. Even if you place 15 trades in a day, that means 45 minutes of nothing going on between trades. Since when I trade, I am pretty much "In the Zone" jumping from chart to chart like crazy, analyzing hundreds of hidden little things, seeing this on a video would make no sense to an outside of my head observer.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,652
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:03am Apr 21, 2012 9:03am
Quoting flaw
Harry,
I think Extreme TMA is a great system, and it's only logical to use recovery method with it. But I'm psychologically retarded. I still like to trade with stop losses. Semafor was part of my effort to try to confirm more precise entries. I've studied this indi. I understand basically how to use it. Thanks for your help.
Best Regards
Frank
I always use recovery,no stop loss.Levels for recovery approx.-1Levelivot point +
(HI yesterday-LOyest.) but not less than your entry price+ADR .
2Level: First recovery+(HIyest-LOyest).
3Level: Second recovery+(HIyest-LOyest).
This is for Longs,for Shorts Instead of"+" shold be"-".
I use the next formula 1(initial trade)+3 (first recovery)+6 (second recovery).
Hope it helps
Regards
  • #9,653
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:03am Apr 21, 2012 9:03am
Quoting Alorente
That would be quite boring. Even if you place 15 trades in a day, that means 45 minutes of nothing going on between trades. Since when I trade, I am pretty much "In the Zone" jumping from chart to chart like crazy, analyzing hundreds of hidden little things, seeing this on a video would make no sense to an outside of my head observer.
As a matter of fact, my brother has sat beside me watching and after a couple of hours he says he doesnīt understand what Iīm doing and just leaves.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,654
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:09am Apr 21, 2012 9:09am
yes Al with due respect I think trading must be like watching paint dry for those who are outside observers lol

Quoting Alorente
As a matter of fact, my brother has sat beside me watching and after a couple of hours he says he doesnīt understand what Iīm doing and just leaves.
Tracking the Specialists.
  • #9,655
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:18am Apr 21, 2012 9:18am
Guys, I was checking out the new Sharp Aquos 80 inch HD LED screen this morning. Wow! is that cool. I was seeing myself trading with that thing. Do you know how many charts I can fit in that...?

Couple that with my Di Novo Mini (Logitech) that I just bought and Iīm already in love with and that, my friends, is trading paradise. You have to have more winners with this setup...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382949,00.asp

http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/Home...C80LE632U.aspx
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #9,656
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:27am Apr 21, 2012 9:27am
Is there such thing as a non repainting TMA Slope indi for backtesting?
  • #9,657
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:28am Apr 21, 2012 9:28am
Quoting Surfnomad
Hey Scott here it is I've modified the colors a bit but it's easy to so you can change them to your liking.

Robert
But, it repaint?
If I Change, the whole World changes!
  • #9,658
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:29am Apr 21, 2012 9:29am
awesome screen is 1080 and pixel resolution 1920 x 1080 so I am guessing you should get the same amount of charts, albeit larger/clearer. Buy it anyway Al it looks fantastic and you can afford it! the Logitech is really neat too, cool design


Quoting Alorente
Guys, I was checking out the new Sharp Aquos 80 inch HD LED screen this morning. Wow! is that cool. I was seeing myself trading with that thing. Do you know how many charts I can fit in that...?

Couple that with my Di Novo Mini (Logitech) that I just bought and Iīm already in love with and that, my friends, is trading paradise. You have to have more winners with this setup...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382949,00.asp

http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/Home...C80LE632U.aspx
Tracking the Specialists.
  • #9,659
  • Edited 9:35am Apr 21, 2012 9:34am | Edited 9:35am
Or how about one of these 3D HD projectors instead, can you imagine watching the USD Index on this beauty? Great price also for this tech http://www.projectorcentral.com/Optoma-HD33.htm
Tracking the Specialists.
  • #9,660
  • Apr 21, 2012 9:36am Apr 21, 2012 9:36am
Quoting flaw
Hello Mike, I almost missed your post. I see you don't like the semafor indicator. The repainting bothers me too. I'm still looking for better confirmation for entry. But I found it does help to exit with more pips. What's your advice? Do you think it's possible to refine the entries? Frank
I don't know much about anything but I have been following this thread for a few weeks and trading by it's rules.

IMHO what we are doing is looking for a turning point in price, after price has extended and gone outside the TMA upper bands we are now looking to sell after we have other confirmation like TMA value between +.50 and -.5, TMA value falling, fast trix crossing slow trix, HA candle turned/flashed red.

In a ranging market we don't have to try and pick the absolute top although it's great when that happens, most the time if we use a small (relative to account size) Lot size there is room for maneover.

But if price for whatever reason (news, sentiment, disaster etc) decides to carry on up after we have entered short, the slope value goes above +.50 then there is not much we can do about it. It would have been impossible in my opinion to predict this move.

So I am not sure how valuable the ZZ semafor indicator is, I did try this indicator over a year ago from a guy called TRO, TheRumpledOne.
If you just look at Semafor 3 and 4 it certainly tells you when price is overextended and a possilbe turn around in price is likely but if you mark when a 3 or 4 appears with a horizontal and vertical line on your chart you will see that it can often be pushed a lot higher and futher in time across to the right of the chart.

As you know all repainting indicators are prone to do this and I am pretty sure there is no such indicator to tell us the absolute top/bottom of a move that does not repaint, otherwise trading would be easy we would all be very wealthy.
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