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  • #3,761
  • Mar 21, 2012 3:20pm Mar 21, 2012 3:20pm
Well, I have 5000$ of profit from this pair in 2 months
How can I leave it

I trade for 4-5 pips with 500,000 lots to make 250$-300$ daily so far working sir

If its not trading I am happy with it even if it break the floor, I will be breakeven at these levels.

You can move to more lucrative trading pairs
  • #3,762
  • Mar 21, 2012 4:01pm Mar 21, 2012 4:01pm
Quoting coolkaps4u
Well, I have 5000$ of profit from this pair in 2 months
How can I leave it

I trade for 4-5 pips with 500,000 lots to make 250$-300$ daily so far working sir

If its not trading I am happy with it even if it break the floor, I will be breakeven at these levels.

You can move to more lucrative trading pairs
And how big are your lots?
Does this mean that you buy Euro 500,000 to get $300 per day in SWAP?
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  • #3,763
  • Mar 21, 2012 4:39pm Mar 21, 2012 4:39pm
Meanwhile H4 chart looks quite f***ed up uptrend channel broken.

Might revisit 20400 or even 20300??

hope not
  • #3,764
  • Mar 21, 2012 5:24pm Mar 21, 2012 5:24pm
WOW, EC IS 1 PIP UP
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  • #3,765
  • Mar 21, 2012 6:07pm Mar 21, 2012 6:07pm
killerwhale, i have read all ur replies. sorry to say that, but i still think that u r a wretched bastard. calling people "losers" here is an unpolite, opinionated behavior and i dont like it at all. i add u to my list. not to my buddy list, to be clear.
  • #3,766
  • Mar 21, 2012 6:31pm Mar 21, 2012 6:31pm
Quoting KillerWhale
And how big are your lots?
Does this mean that you buy Euro 500,000 to get $300 per day in SWAP?
This chart will explain better what EUR/CHF can bring if rightly scalp.
2-4 pips is enough if your entry and exit is on time.
This is just march trades that also not all the dates.
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  • #3,767
  • Mar 21, 2012 7:30pm Mar 21, 2012 7:30pm
Quoting worsttrader
killerwhale, i have read all ur replies. sorry to say that, but i still think that u r a wretched bastard. calling people "losers" here is an unpolite, opinionated behavior and i dont like it at all. i add u to my list. not to my buddy list, to be clear.
Thank you sooooooooooooooooo much!!!!!!
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  • #3,768
  • Mar 21, 2012 7:33pm Mar 21, 2012 7:33pm
Quoting KillerWhale
Thank you sooooooooooooooooo much!!!!!!
But yes, if you cannot move anymore in fear of a margin call then in my eyes you are a loser. And for that reason in any traders eyes.
Good luck in your bankruptcy.
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  • #3,769
  • Mar 21, 2012 8:33pm Mar 21, 2012 8:33pm
the range is very narrow now, today we may see 1.2040/30 or 1.2070
  • #3,770
  • Mar 21, 2012 8:43pm Mar 21, 2012 8:43pm
Quoting tunera
the range is very narrow now, today we may see 1.2040/30 or 1.2070
Don't expect any movement today anymore, it already outperformed itself.
It already moved 1 pip.
Next move will be probably tomorrow or next week for another pip..
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  • #3,771
  • Mar 21, 2012 8:48pm Mar 21, 2012 8:48pm
Quoting KillerWhale
Don't expect any movement today anymore, it already outperformed itself.
It already moved 1 pip.
Next move will be probably tomorrow or next week for another pip..
How are you handling this pair, are you a longterm buyer or a scalper?
  • #3,772
  • Edited 9:16pm Mar 21, 2012 9:00pm | Edited 9:16pm
Quoting tunera
How are you handling this pair, are you a longterm buyer or a scalper?
I only have a long time laughter regarding this pair. For the rest I'm a trader, so I trade other pairs where it pays to buy and to sell.

I think it is downright funny to see how even with this pair so-called traders can get in trouble, and be so irresponsible even with this pair to get close to a margin call.
I just wonder how these people manage the rest of their financial life. Must be a real mess!
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  • #3,773
  • Mar 22, 2012 12:36am Mar 22, 2012 12:36am
Quoting KillerWhale
So if you don't have guts and can't take the loss I really hope for you that you will go bankrupt as soon as possible.
i really don't see why he should cut position at this level. what's the worst that could happen? if the floor will be broken he will lose another 50 pips but it will be a huge spike down and with some sell orders around 1,1990 he should be able to make some good money from that move. if the floor it's not broken then he just have to wait for a better price to exit (and then maybe enter again around these levels)
  • #3,774
  • Mar 22, 2012 12:41am Mar 22, 2012 12:41am
Quoting KillerWhale
But I've spend enough time with the losers here.
I don't think you will find many winner in this thread, it is obvious that even good advice doesn't get ground here.
Maybe that is also logical, since why would a winning trader spend much time in this thread of in this currency where profits are extremely rare and if there are profits then it is pure speculation, not trading whatsoever.
OK! we get it! you are the winner, you are the best, you are a god among humans. we should all be grateful for having the opportunity to speak with you.
P.S. what's the deal with the quote? why do you quote yourself? do you often speak with yourself?and if you do, who wins the debate?
  • #3,775
  • Mar 22, 2012 1:00am Mar 22, 2012 1:00am
Quoting Adi_M
OK! we get it! you are the winner, you are the best, you are a god among humans. we should all be grateful for having the opportunity to speak with you.
P.S. what's the deal with the quote? why do you quote yourself? do you often speak with yourself?and if you do, who wins the debate?
Lol, i understand what he meant, he just say that real traders don't waste time with this dead pair, as profits is everywhere in other pairs and instrument, and if you are good you can grab much of it everyday.
I agree with him, but not totally.
The eur vs chf is in a situation very interesting, just give a look to the weekly chart, after making an alltime low it spiked up and more chf weakness is expected in the medium-long (maybe short?) term, so placing a longterm trade make fully "trading sense".
What is seen as speculative/bad is the fact that this trade present a limited risk due to the floor, and here i agree it is not very heroic in this sense, but this floor shit both bring advantages and disvantages, the advantage is the limited risk, the disvantage is the total liquidity lack spiral that can emotionally drain even the most patient investor.
  • #3,776
  • Mar 22, 2012 1:23am Mar 22, 2012 1:23am
Quoting tunera
Lol, i understand what he meant, he just say that real traders don't waste time with this dead pair, as profits is everywhere in other pairs and instrument, and if you are good you can grab much of it everyday.
I agree with him, but not totally.
The eur vs chf is in a situation very interesting, just give a look to the weekly chart, after making an alltime low it spiked up and more chf weakness is expected in the medium-long (maybe short?) term, so placing a longterm trade make fully "trading sense".
What is seen...
Why is more weakness expected?
The primary reason for the "floor" is the total lack of weakness and the expectation is that once the floor is removed, this pair could fall 1000-2000 pips in just one day.
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  • #3,777
  • Mar 22, 2012 2:42am Mar 22, 2012 2:42am
Quoting KillerWhale
Why is more weakness expected?
The primary reason for the "floor" is the total lack of weakness and the expectation is that once the floor is removed, this pair could fall 1000-2000 pips in just one day.
Mmm, interesting point.
Here come in play the subjective analysis, when i say further weakness is expected is not because of the floor, i just think that the eurchf is oversold, no doubt there is a downtrend and no doubt that it will not reverse anytime soon, it may last for more 5-10 years for what i know, but that doesn't matter.
What i see now is a pair that is in downtrend but have also found a bottom, and from here there is space for a correction (i'm just looking at 1.3250 zone as probable top of this correction), then of course if we put 10 traders in a room chances are that 5 will see something and buy, and 5 will see some other thing and sell, at the end every analysis is very subjective, everybody have his/her own ideas about what the market is doing and what may do next, my expectations of a bounce are not because of snb, actually without snb the pair would be trading probably on 1.15 area, but 1.15 or 1.20 i see this as a (b) point of an abc correction, i put a chart to show my view.
If i would not see the market in this way, i would never ever think surely about buy it because of hope of some new intervention (that maybe will happen in the future if the pair really cannot go up, but in such case i think will happen maybe in 2013, so wait for snb would simply be a swap suicide).
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  • #3,778
  • Mar 22, 2012 2:53am Mar 22, 2012 2:53am
Quoting tunera
Lol, i understand what he meant, he just say that real traders don't waste time with this dead pair, as profits is everywhere in other pairs and instrument, and if you are good you can grab much of it everyday......
i know what he meant but i didn't like his superior attitude. and who says that if you trade this pair you get stuck and you can't trade any other pair? just split the account and raise the leverage in the EUR/CHF trade. i belive that is worth blocking some money at this levels
  • #3,779
  • Mar 22, 2012 5:28am Mar 22, 2012 5:28am
Quoting Adi_M
i know what he meant but i didn't like his superior attitude. and who says that if you trade this pair you get stuck and you can't trade any other pair? just split the account and raise the leverage in the EUR/CHF trade. i belive that is worth blocking some money at this levels
That is very true and I haven't said anything about that. I can even imagine doing that at some point myself.
What I was laughing about is just 1 "trader" who got totally stuck here with a total underwater trade where a move south would cause his bankruptcy as he himself announced.

My opinion about a trader who faces a bankruptcy or a margin call is doomed to lose his money anyway by just not following all the warnings or not applying any money management.
Such a trader is doomed to lose and such a trader is "WORSTTRADER".
The name tells it all.

I know a lot of other traders would handle this with "care" and "compassion", sorry I don't.
I don't have a superior attitude but this is plain stupid.
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  • #3,780
  • Mar 22, 2012 6:08am Mar 22, 2012 6:08am
Long limit order place 1.2029

Stop 25 pips

Target open 25 pips.
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