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  • #6,121
  • Feb 20, 2012 11:54am Feb 20, 2012 11:54am
Hi Transeunte.

Because it is a good buy? They meet all standards, Trend,extreme blue, emotion ... Because it is a good buy?

It was a bad buy because it has touched the stop but you went into buying it?
  • #6,122
  • Feb 20, 2012 11:55am Feb 20, 2012 11:55am
Quoting Passerby
Do you have the same setting for the extreme cycle for both of them? The current setting is 1,3,2.
Yes, the parameters are 1,3,2 for both indicators. I just had another case right now. I noticed that it will "repaint" back to correct color all of a sudden though... Odd...
  • #6,123
  • Feb 20, 2012 11:57am Feb 20, 2012 11:57am
Quoting pbb
Oh please: all trades where good, none was picked wrong at the first color change (which will be a repaint for six bars and that repaint is not a problem at itself for the original symphonie system, how do you always pick the good trades at the very first moment?) and blablabla,

Goldsurfer move on and don't waste your time with such claims. Symphonie is good as it is. Change some things if it makes you feel more comfortable. Don't just fall for anyone that drops in and claims the world backed by some handmade excel sheet.

For anyone that...
What claims did I make??? Excuse?

I don't fall for anything, I have been around too long. I put it on my chart and go to the simulator! I said I see possibilities. I don't agree with all A does, I don't like signal to signal, I have changed my chart a little. I said symphonie is not for everybody, I could be wrong, you think it's for everybody? I'm glad you like it....but again what claims???

cheers
  • #6,124
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:02pm Feb 20, 2012 12:02pm
Quoting Martinius
Yes, the parameters are 1,3,2 for both indicators. I just had another case right now. I noticed that it will "repaint" back to correct color all of a sudden though... Odd...
Well, I also experience the same things last week (or the previous week). It gave me lot of headache, I need to reinstall my MT4 and redownload all the indies. Earlier today Eval also notice that the signal is kinda different when he use laptop. I also use laptop to trade, but I have bought a PC today. A cheap one, this one only cost me just under $300. If you are using laptop and serious in trading FX maybe you could consider to buy PC.
  • #6,125
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:06pm Feb 20, 2012 12:06pm
Quoting pbb
Oh please: all trades where good, none was picked wrong at the first color change (which will be a repaint for six bars and that repaint is not a problem at itself for the original symphonie system, how do you always pick the good trades at the very first moment?) and blablabla,

Goldsurfer move on and don't waste your time with such claims. Symphonie is good as it is. Change some things if it makes you feel more comfortable. Don't just fall for anyone that drops in and claims the world backed by some handmade excel sheet.

For anyone that...
Your worried about the repaint and you use Symphonie??

Confirm the Ma cross with the RJ Ma5 and use evals Ha4 indy is one way of doing it. I thought repaint wasn't an issue in this thread
  • #6,126
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:09pm Feb 20, 2012 12:09pm
Quoting pbb
Oh please: all trades where good, none was picked wrong at the first color change (which will be a repaint for six bars and that repaint is not a problem at itself for the original symphonie system, how do you always pick the good trades at the very first moment?) and blablabla,

Goldsurfer move on and don't waste your time with such claims. Symphonie is good as it is. Change some things if it makes you feel more comfortable. Don't just fall for anyone that drops in and claims the world backed by some handmade excel sheet.

For anyone...
Dude, I have a news for you: nobody have to prove anything to you! If you are interested - test it yourself, if you are not interested - respect yourself enough to behave like a civilised human being and don't accuse somebody that he fabricated the proof!

And another one: Goldsurfer, I and other guys who are interested in the Alorente's system are grown men, and we're able to make our own decision without some smart alec's advises or some busybody's opinions.
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #6,127
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:09pm Feb 20, 2012 12:09pm
Hi Alorente and others,

When I compare my EURUSD 5 min chart to the one posted by Alorente earlier I have slightly different bars in the MA Crossover Histogram; difference is 1-3 bar max. (same seetings of: 7,4)

Could this be because of my broker: FXPro?

I noticed that Eleyana also said earlier that different brokers produce slightly different results.

If any of you guys have some input as to which broker has best MT4 feed, this would be great!
  • #6,128
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:12pm Feb 20, 2012 12:12pm
Quoting goldsurfer
Your worried about the repaint and you use Symphonie??

I thought repaint wasn't an issue in this thread


That's a good one! That's the best one ever!
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #6,129
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:16pm Feb 20, 2012 12:16pm
Quoting Passerby
Ah, I knew it. If it's a confirmation from my senior, I just simply avoid trading on sunday or friday. Actually sunday is the worst day ever, how many times I complain started the week in red and paved my way up in the next day. Maybe you could post this in the 1st post to help some newbies like me, please. I hope this warning could help someone who came to your thread. The warning could sound this way, "Warning for newbies only, do not trade in monday and friday! The market is a bit crazy on those days."

PS: I think...
I never trade on Fridays, since a lot of folks are squaring positions for the weekend and strange things can happen. I acquired that habit in my many years of Options and Futures trading. I do trade on Monday though.
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #6,130
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:22pm Feb 20, 2012 12:22pm
Quoting Martinius
This is a little issue I noticed today which involve conflicting data between the Extreme indicator and the Matrix indicator. As you can see the "standalone" Extreme indicator is still showing a valid red spike, but the Extreme bars in the Matrix indicator are showing that a blue spike has occured without this being seen on the "standalone" Extreme indi... Just wanted to know if this has occured to you. Both the Matrix and the Extreme indi have the same parameters configured of course.

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...22/repaint.gif...
yes
i had same different displays
  • #6,131
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:22pm Feb 20, 2012 12:22pm
Quoting dakuki
Hi Alorente and others,

When I compare my EURUSD 5 min chart to the one posted by Alorente earlier I have slightly different bars in the MA Crossover Histogram; difference is 1-3 bar max. (same seetings of: 7,4)

Could this be because of my broker: FXPro?

I noticed that Eleyana also said earlier that different brokers produce slightly different results.

If any of you guys have some input as to which broker has best MT4 feed, this would be great!
I use FxPro also, so thatīs not the reason. What inputs do you have in the indi? Mine are:

Period: 7
Right Shift: 4

Here are the indicators I use.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 MA_Crossover_Histogram.mq4   4 KB | 612 downloads
File Type: mq4 MA_Crossover_Lines.mq4   3 KB | 584 downloads
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #6,132
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:27pm Feb 20, 2012 12:27pm
Quoting Passerby
I also try your method on NZDUSD and AUDUSD, 3 loses out of 3 with smaller lot. I enter when there is an extreme peak and when the MA cross over change color to the direction of extreme spikes. When there is a down spike, I trade after the MA turn blue and close. Maybe I missed something.

The one lead to my loses is the MA and extreme spikes repaint.
Check your Aussie chart now and make these adjust, your entry is the MA cross confirmed by the RJ-M5 after a spike, major or minor. Further confirm with stochastic and Ha H4 trend. Since NY open, I see one entry at 1800 gmt+2, with 1-2 RR winner with SL set at swing high.


cheers
  • #6,133
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:31pm Feb 20, 2012 12:31pm
Quoting pbb
Oh please: all trades where good, none was picked wrong at the first color change (which will be a repaint for six bars and that repaint is not a problem at itself for the original symphonie system, how do you always pick the good trades at the very first moment?) and blablabla,

Goldsurfer move on and don't waste your time with such claims. Symphonie is good as it is. Change some things if it makes you feel more comfortable. Don't just fall for anyone that drops in and claims the world backed by some handmade excel sheet.

For anyone that...
I donīt get your point. According to you I would fabricate numbers and do all that to accomplish what?...
Observation is the path to discovery.
  • #6,134
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:33pm Feb 20, 2012 12:33pm
Quoting pbb
For anyone that feels offended: back it up with none-demo-account stats or open a free meeting room with screensharing at anymeeting.com and show your skills. With this fairytales performance you won't help anyone that has a hard time in trading, newbie or not.
Alorente said that he tested with just 2 lots and he usually trades with much more lot sizes. Can you imagine the size of his account? Do you really think that the guy who manages this kind of account would go through all this troubles just to prove something to some pbb-guy (whom he doesn't know and doesn't want to know either)? Yea, right! I think Alorente (like most of us) has better things to do!
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #6,135
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:36pm Feb 20, 2012 12:36pm
Quoting Alorente
I donīt get your point. According to you I would fabricate numbers and do all that to accomplish what?...
Alorente, I wish I could say everything I think about this guy, but I'd better shut up - don't want to be banned!
Gentlemen always play by the rules. If they can't, they change the rules.
  • #6,136
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:40pm Feb 20, 2012 12:40pm
Hi Alorente,

I am sorry to have bothered you with this. It had nothing to do with the broker feed. I am using a MAC and my free Windows emulator somehow didnt want to cooperate. Rebooted, and all ok now!
  • #6,137
  • Feb 20, 2012 12:40pm Feb 20, 2012 12:40pm
Quoting Alorente
I donīt get your point. According to you I would fabricate numbers and do all that to accomplish what?...


it's posted today all trades...it matched my chart spot on...I was sleeping till NY as always but evidently the MA cross fake out didn't happen....you will have to know how to deal with that but other than that I like what I see.....



good job A

cheers all
  • #6,138
  • Edited 1:24pm Feb 20, 2012 1:12pm | Edited 1:24pm
Sorry goldsurfer, read between the lines and you would know I am not accusing you of any claims.
  • #6,139
  • Edited 1:47pm Feb 20, 2012 1:23pm | Edited 1:47pm
Quoting Favorite
Alorente said that he tested with just 2 lots and he usually trades with much more lot sizes. Can you imagine the size of his account? Do you really think that the guy who manages this kind of account would go through all this troubles just to prove something to some pbb-guy (whom he doesn't know and doesn't want to know either)? Yea, right! I think Alorente (like most of us) has better things to do!
Just because someone says he trades 2 lots .... When you walk into someone on the street tomorrow who says he is the next chosen, do you believe him blindly?

I am just trying to save some newbies, instead of giving them over-optimistic hope.
  • #6,140
  • Feb 20, 2012 1:41pm Feb 20, 2012 1:41pm
Evaluator with his symphonie is doing a great job for about half year now. He is pretty fair in saying that there are lots of winners, but lots of losing trades too. Besides that he shows his equitycurve regularly, going up and down, but pointing upwards in the long run. That's what you need. With 100% picks over an 5min indicator that's only fixed after 6x5min one would be the next Marthy Schwarz in just a couple of months.

But then again, people still need some kind of trader/king for them to show off and direct them to fast and easy wealth. In my opinion the realjumpers, MJ's, jurn_e's, ihdt's and the creator evaluator show the real deal. Sorry if I forgot anyone.
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