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  • #30,301
  • Edited 9:08am Feb 5, 2012 7:51am | Edited 9:08am
Quoting adler
Hello Sonickers

I am very thankful to you guys, as even though I dont post as I dont have access to this website from work, I follow this system and quite successful

The only exception I make to this system I like higher time prices but lower time volumes and I have switches timeframes to see lower time volumes

I made a first stab at changing the Sonic VSA to be MTF so that i can view volume accumulations and distributions of lower tfs from higher timeframe.

Its seems ok on the same tf, when i come with Sonic VSA but not very accurate on...
I am not versed in coding MTF. Personally, I find that the cleaner the chart, the better. So, while I do check multiple TFs (higher like H4/
D1 for PA and sometimes lower like M5/M1 for volume) I do so by looking directly at those TF charts. Frankly, it does not take much to do this:

1. Put H4, M15 and M5 chart tabs on your MT4 main window, which you can quickly click back and forth on to view the entire chart of each, or

2. with those tabs you can "restore" to smaller size and view all three simultaneously side-by-side in the main MT4 window.

What could be easier? And, the fewer, simplier indicators you use, the better. Not to mention the less drain on your computer system. Most importantly of all, however, is the fact that PA waves and the Dragon, not volume, are the fundamental indicators. The SonicR PA Candles and SonicR PA Histogram were created to allow the candlesticks to have overlay colors to denote special volume situations shown in the volume histogram. I think this is the best use of volume with price, and it truely functions well on M15 with never needing to look at volume on other TFs.

Regards,
-tah
  • #30,302
  • Feb 5, 2012 8:00am Feb 5, 2012 8:00am
Quoting traderathome
I am not versed in coding MTF. Personally, I find that the cleaner the chart, the better. So, while I do check multiple TFs (higher like H4/
D1 for PA and sometimes lower like M5/M1 for volume) I do so by looking directly at those TF charts. Frankly, it does not take much to do this:


Regards,
-tah
Thanks for your quick reply , very much appreciated
  • #30,303
  • Feb 5, 2012 11:20am Feb 5, 2012 11:20am
Quoting traderathome
You are doing fine. Attached is a list of posts that will help. They include the Sonic R. System "brief manual" and updates, and the TAH indy/templates with updates. And yes, the instructions for my indicators are those you find at the tops of the indicator compiles, which you access using MetaEditor.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...85#post5343285

Welcome,
-tah
Traderathome, Thank you so much.

I am a retired IT engineer and I know very well how much time and knowledge it needs to create these tools. I appreciate very much.

It's a very good idea to collect all relevant posts about SonicR system updates etc. into 1 post!

I can imagine you will be asked same questions over and over again. Its'quite annoying!! I agree with that.

Do you think it is a good idea to make a note of the link you provided for future updates? (I copied the link to make sure. )
Thus do you add future updates links into that particular post?

Thanks.

It's time to do my homework!

Greetz from the netherlands.
  • #30,304
  • Feb 5, 2012 11:57am Feb 5, 2012 11:57am
Quoting ronsrally58
Traderathome, Thank you so much.

I am a retired IT engineer and I know very well how much time and knowledge it needs to create these tools. I appreciate very much.

It's a very good idea to collect all relevant posts about SonicR system updates etc. into 1 post!

I can imagine you will be asked same questions over and over again. Its'quite annoying!! I agree with that.

Do you think it is a good idea to make a note of the link you provided for future updates? (I copied the link to make sure. )
Thus do you add future updates...
Future updates cannot be inserted into old posts. I believe that after 24 hours a post cannot be revised by the poster. I believe Sonicdeejay can always revise his posts, which is why he does so with Post#1 when he feels it is time to. All I can do is post any updates. Then copy an earlier post that contains the list of links to updates, and add the link of the new posted update, and post that. And then save the url link to that for inclusion in any new posts required in response to valid questions.
  • #30,305
  • Feb 5, 2012 1:52pm Feb 5, 2012 1:52pm
Quoting traderathome
Future updates cannot be inserted into old posts. I believe that after 24 hours a post cannot be revised by the poster. I believe Sonicdeejay can always revise his posts, which is why he does so with Post#1 when he feels it is time to. All I can do is post any updates. Then copy an earlier post that contains the list of links to updates, and add the link of the new posted update, and post that. And then save the url link to that for inclusion in any new posts required in response to valid questions.
Tah,

Ok. Thanks for your reply. I will pay attention!

By the way,..
Right now I am reading your comment lines in your compiles.

Just 2 questions:

1.
See: SonicR PV Histogram.mq4 ( - Traderathome, 07-16-2011 )
Comment Line: "...When this indicator is used with the SonicR PV Histogram indicator, be sure all the settings are the same in both indicators!"

I guess the part: ...SonicR PV Histogram indicator... should be replaced by...SonicR PV Candles indicator...

Am I right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2. About the neat feature in your compiles:
...If they are in use for more than a week without the compiles having been accessed for reading, then they will self-destruct!!!!...

After reading your comments can I close Metaeditor or do I have to safe, or safe as the file?

Thanks again TAH.

Greetz
  • #30,306
  • Feb 5, 2012 2:10pm Feb 5, 2012 2:10pm
Quoting ronsrally58
Tah,

Ok. Thanks for your reply. I will pay attention!

By the way,..
Right now I am reading your comment lines in your compiles.

Just 2 questions:

1.
See: SonicR PV Histogram.mq4 ( - Traderathome, 07-16-2011 )
Comment Line: "...When this indicator is used with the SonicR PV Histogram indicator, be sure all the settings are the same in both indicators!"

I guess the part: ...SonicR PV Histogram indicator... should be replaced by...SonicR PV Candles indicator...

Am I right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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You're right about the needed correction. And you can just close MetaEditor; that was just a joke.
  • #30,307
  • Feb 5, 2012 2:35pm Feb 5, 2012 2:35pm
Market Comment:

The new week has opened with pro-USD gaps. Unfortunately, without early asian session pullbacks, there is not much prospect for any asian session trade. Excepting GU. GU has made the pullback, so there might be something here.

It is Monday, not usually a good trading day, not even in the London session. And this is the asian session. So doing anything about GU in the early asian session is with much higher risk. I am thinking the preliminary short layout is very optimistic. If the setup does breakout for a short, PA could stall almost anywhere, maybe just beyond the breakout. So, consider this not as recommendation to trade.

Edit: Wow! Even as posting, look at the whipsaw! I have not traded the setup. And now, with the whipsaw, I'm going to watch this a while longer to see what happens. This is speculation, but the whip down might have been to trigger shorts into the market. And the following whip up might have been to stop them out, creating liquidity for the BBs to get those shorts for their own, but at a higher price. This merits watching, but with a lot of caution right now.
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  • #30,308
  • Feb 5, 2012 3:12pm Feb 5, 2012 3:12pm
GU:

Ha! Super Bowl Sunday. Who will score, bulls or bears?
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  • #30,309
  • Feb 5, 2012 3:29pm Feb 5, 2012 3:29pm
GU:

Entered short (EP= 1.5802). Just for asian session trade. TP3 (not shown) for a London session trade would be another quarter lower. Will be lucky if PA hits TP1 in the asian session, but we never know.
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  • #30,310
  • Feb 5, 2012 5:20pm Feb 5, 2012 5:20pm
Hi, am a new trader and i just came across this system and trying to backtest few days.

i download the sonic R v3 system which come with explanation. i used the spupivot template.

i have few basic questions on how to short regarding the wave analysis
1. if we want to long we're looking for L --> HL --> look for candles that goes up the upper dragon. does this mean if we're to short we're looking for H --> LH then look for candle below the bottom dragon?

2. a NVO volume change is when they change color, is that correct?
  • #30,311
  • Feb 5, 2012 6:20pm Feb 5, 2012 6:20pm
EURUSD short entry EP 1.31068 at 01:54 GMT

(a little late entry, still finished breakfast ...)
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  • #30,312
  • Feb 5, 2012 7:02pm Feb 5, 2012 7:02pm
Quoting traderathome
GU:

Entered short (EP= 1.5802). Just for asian session trade. TP3 (not shown) for a London session trade would be another quarter lower. Will be lucky if PA hits TP1 in the asian session, but we never know.
GU:

TP1= 1.5776 reached for 26 pips gain EP to TP1 on trade#1. SL moved to BE+ for trade #2.
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  • #30,313
  • Feb 5, 2012 7:08pm Feb 5, 2012 7:08pm
Quoting virelai
Hi, am a new trader and i just came across this system and trying to backtest few days.

i download the sonic R v3 system which come with explanation. i used the spupivot template.

i have few basic questions on how to short regarding the wave analysis
1. if we want to long we're looking for L --> HL --> look for candles that goes up the upper dragon. does this mean if we're to short we're looking for H --> LH then look for candle below the bottom dragon?

2. a NVO volume change is when they change color, is that correct?
Welcome to the Sonic R. System thread. First off, read all of Post #1, including the linked material. Then review the following:


Brief Manual and TAH indicators/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...4792&page=1368

Brief Manual Update:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post4682936

New TAH indicators/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...55#post4692255

Upgrade of TAH indicators/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post4785975

If you have questions on the TAH indictors/templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...61#post5188661

Back To Basics, a simplified review of the Sonic R. System:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post5240536

Update to Brief Manual:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...58#post5325858


Final Suggestion:
Read, read and read more. The Sonic R. System is as simple as it comes. It should not need to be "spoon fed" to anyone. Continue by reading the first 25-50 of Sonicdeejay's posts. Then leap ahead and read the last month of all posts. By then, considering all that you have read (and hopefully reflected on), you should have a very good idea of the Sonic R. System.


Regards,
-tah
  • #30,314
  • Feb 5, 2012 7:56pm Feb 5, 2012 7:56pm
Quoting futurespeter
EURUSD short entry EP 1.31068 at 01:54 GMT
50% Partial exit at 1.30893 for profit 17 pips (EP 1.31068).

SL moved to BE+ 1.31065 for remaining 50% position.
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  • #30,315
  • Edited 8:20pm Feb 5, 2012 8:01pm | Edited 8:20pm
EU Comment:

The market started the week off bearish, with a gap down. Quite possibly we'll see the FO/LO or US open BBs fill the gap before resuming downside. This is speculative. There is no guarantee the gap down will be filled today. Monday is not usually a good trading day, however if the BBs fill the gap and then we get a SonicR short setup, I'd have confidence in it, even to run more than one day.
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  • #30,316
  • Feb 5, 2012 8:32pm Feb 5, 2012 8:32pm
Quoting futurespeter
http://www.futurespeter.mynetcologne...c06022012a.png

Another way to enjoy looking multiple timeframes simultaneously side-by-side is by investing in monitors and multiple graphic adapter ...
Dang! I wanna upgrade. Anybody got three more old TVs they want to get rid of?
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  • #30,317
  • Feb 5, 2012 8:41pm Feb 5, 2012 8:41pm
Quoting traderathome
I am not versed in coding MTF. Personally, I find that the cleaner the chart, the better. So, while I do check multiple TFs (higher like H4/
D1 for PA and sometimes lower like M5/M1 for volume) I do so by looking directly at those TF charts. Frankly, it does not take much to do this:

1. Put H4, M15 and M5 chart tabs on your MT4 main window, which you can quickly click back and forth on to view the entire chart of each, or

2. with those tabs you can "restore" to smaller size and view all three simultaneously side-by-side in the main MT4 window....


sorry!, I did play to much around and did delete my previous posting, my mistake.

I did write:

Another way to enjoy looking multiple timeframes simultaneously side-by-side is by investing in monitors and multiple graphic adapter ...
http://www.futurespeter.mynetcologne...c06022012a.png
futurespeter
  • #30,318
  • Feb 5, 2012 9:17pm Feb 5, 2012 9:17pm
Quoting traderathome
GU:

TP1= 1.5776 reached for 26 pips gain EP to TP1 on trade#1. SL moved to BE+ for trade #2.
GU:

Manually closed trade #2 for 29 pips gain EP= 1.5802 to close= 1.5773. Time is getting closer to FO/LO and price might start moving up, especially if the FO/LO BBs are going to "reset higher" the price to begin their own shorting. It not, and the price continues to drop, well both trades did well enough considering it was the asian session on a Monday.
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  • #30,319
  • Feb 5, 2012 9:32pm Feb 5, 2012 9:32pm
Quoting futurespeter
50% Partial exit at 1.30893 for profit 17 pips (EP 1.31068).

SL moved to BE+ 1.31065 for remaining 50% position.
SL moved down to 1.30958 for remaining 50% position.
  • #30,320
  • Feb 5, 2012 10:08pm Feb 5, 2012 10:08pm
Quoting futurespeter
50% Partial exit at 1.30893 for profit 17 pips (EP 1.31068).

SL moved to BE+ 1.31065 for remaining 50% position.
Remaining 50% position manual closed at 1.30859 (+20 pips).
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