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  • #586,701
  • Jan 21, 2012 7:40am Jan 21, 2012 7:40am
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  • #586,702
  • Jan 21, 2012 8:07am Jan 21, 2012 8:07am
As I said yes the technicals look asif it will be headed down, however we cant ignore the fundamentals here. Its whats going to shape the market in the coming weeks, especially in the EZ.
  • #586,703
  • Jan 21, 2012 8:43am Jan 21, 2012 8:43am
Quoting Captain Jack
Looking to add short positions should price gap up Sunday.

CJ

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Why do you think price gap up after weekend?
  • #586,704
  • Jan 21, 2012 9:55am Jan 21, 2012 9:55am
Quoting Wulfgar
the sheer weight of that sentence just cracked the earths mantle


http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equi...ading_0410.pdf

http://www.eurojournals.com/irjfe_23_16.pdf


http://www.slideshare.net/Zorro29/ca...ange-rates-and

pour plus de clarté
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  • #586,705
  • Jan 21, 2012 10:29am Jan 21, 2012 10:29am
Quoting HotBiscuits
Everyone bullish or bearish?

Personally Im very torn, it looks like a standard retracement however the news from Greece is anything but bad in my opinion.

Currently sitting long though
The head of the IIF just left Athens unexpectedly and no deal is expected before Monday when the EU finance ministers meet (as it had been announced) and negotiators starting to question if a deal will even come through now. I think this is all but good news for the EUR.

Greece will inevitably have to leave the EZ, their economy is just not ready to be part of the single currency. I think this will probably be it, there must be a lot going on behind the scenes that we do not know about. But i do expect Greece to leave the EZ before March and default on their debt, followed by an emergency recapitalization of European banks - only then will the Euro recover and probably not before the later part of this year.
  • #586,706
  • Jan 21, 2012 10:55am Jan 21, 2012 10:55am
There is something I'm trying to figure out when it comes to FA/TA balance. We talk a lot about fundamentals and I agree, we should be mindful of that but... unless you are a big fund or you look at the market as an investor, does it really make a lot of sense? Most of us are day traders. Not in the strict sense of the word, some may hold a position for several days or maybe weeks.. Anyway, when you put in a trade, and the darn thing goes against you 300 pips, do you hold onto it, just because the fundamentals point the other way? So anyway, what am I trying to say? Ah, I think the big fundamentals picture starts being built up from immediate and intermediate news that pops up. Case in point. Last Friday the 13th we dropped like a rock because of the downgrade NEWS. Then we wondered around for a day or so, and we shot up on the IMF NEWS. The IMF was talking about that 1T/500B fund (they don't even know what's gonna be in the end). Since then the market never looked back. That being said, was that such an earth shattering shift in the fundamentals? I don't think so, but that was the starting point of this turn around.... So it's my opinion we should take the fundamentals with a grain of salt and not bet the farm on it, let alone there are as many views as analysts out there.
  • #586,707
  • Jan 21, 2012 11:05am Jan 21, 2012 11:05am
Quoting attila
There is something I'm trying to figure out when it comes to FA/TA balance. We talk a lot about fundamentals and I agree, we should be mindful of that but... unless you are a big fund or you look at the market as an investor, does it really make a lot of sense? Most of us are day traders. Not in the strict sense of the word, some may hold a position for several days or maybe weeks.. Anyway, when you put in a trade, and the darn thing goes against you 300 pips, do you hold onto it, just because the fundamentals point the other way? So anyway, what...
I agree. But technical should also be taken with a grain of salt.

IMO the term "fundamental" is so broad that it is somewhat meaningless. For some people it just means supply and demand. For others it means the continual barrage of news. For yet others it means larger structural relationships. And for some it means access to data which is not publically available.

For me personally, knowing the fundamentals gives me an edge, but the bottom line is that any experienced trader (even if they are a fundamental guru) will decide actual entries and exits based upon technical considerations.
Kill the ego, or it will kill the mission.
  • #586,708
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:18pm Jan 21, 2012 12:18pm
Quoting ingmarforex
I knio many will disagree but compare europe to the us. Us is the biggest consumer and dont do anything about it the fed i gonna print like heel like all centrall banks but the fed is gonna be the big leader hop whe soon go back to the real reality and look at the other side of the ocean they are in my oppinion way worse then europe in reality they need ot be triple ccc there bonds but i am not the market but reality will come true 1 day. All euro bashers go ahead and defend it i be lonely on the otherside so long i am not a investor but i think...


Quick question:


have you ever considered interpunctation and structuring of what you write?
  • #586,709
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:20pm Jan 21, 2012 12:20pm
Quoting infinitus
Quick question:


have you ever considered interpunctation and structuring of what you write?

wow...a hot question from u fren
Bismillah
  • #586,710
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:21pm Jan 21, 2012 12:21pm
Quoting danko316
I am a newbie here but I have to oppose because it is not yet time for the euro were to the north. Next target is 1.2450 and 1.22 is target for next 14 days. Here we have expanded triangle pattern. The last time they got enough, and always to the south. eurusd go to around 1.13 is definitely turned around and goes to 2.15. 1.13 is fibonacci 61.8
Hi Danko,

nice first posting

Keep up the good work :-)

Well spotted the triangle......
  • #586,711
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:23pm Jan 21, 2012 12:23pm
Quoting krunfx
wow...a hot question from u fren
  • #586,712
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:29pm Jan 21, 2012 12:29pm
Anyone else here have a STRONG disdain for the NY session?
  • #586,713
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:32pm Jan 21, 2012 12:32pm
Quoting infinitus
Quick question:


have you ever considered interpunctation and structuring of what you write?
dont like to dont give a fuck to be honiest only when i want to
  • #586,714
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:35pm Jan 21, 2012 12:35pm
http://www.linkiesta.it/grecia-club-paris

maybe iran can use them to test nukes
  • #586,715
  • Jan 21, 2012 12:47pm Jan 21, 2012 12:47pm
I just woke up.

Hey that bottle of Vodka is empty now.

Did I do that?

1 thing stands though, quit smoking in 4 days from now.


1/25/12
New voice message: Why are you calling me? If I need you, I'll call you!
  • #586,716
  • Jan 21, 2012 1:02pm Jan 21, 2012 1:02pm
Quoting ingmarforex
dont like to dont give a fuck to be honiest only when i want to
You can fuck whomever you like as long as I am not involved

To little brain to write in proper style or what?
  • #586,717
  • Jan 21, 2012 1:16pm Jan 21, 2012 1:16pm
Quoting infinitus
You can fuck whomever you like as long as I am not involved

To little brain to write in proper style or what?
yeah something like that
  • #586,718
  • Jan 21, 2012 1:28pm Jan 21, 2012 1:28pm
Quoting Warwick
Anyone else here have a STRONG disdain for the NY session?
See my motto. lol.
  • #586,719
  • Jan 21, 2012 2:07pm Jan 21, 2012 2:07pm
Careful with any pending longs guys, greek talks appear to have broke down, creditor walks out of meeting this evening
  • #586,720
  • Jan 21, 2012 2:13pm Jan 21, 2012 2:13pm
Quoting MaynoothBlue
Careful with any pending longs guys, greek talks appear to have broke down, creditor walks out of meeting this evening
Stupid Creditor.
Everyone expects Greece to die soon.
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