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  • #281
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:05am Nov 10, 2011 5:05am
Quoting Udine
Dean,

between those red lines, were three trades, nothing more nothing less.

there is no other way to trade with my rules.

Udine
yes thank you Udine, according to my analysis too there is 3 correct trades here as i stated, please see again with yellow lines now in the chart to show the 3 trades, yellow lines are the signal candles, straight after a green 15ha and with all mtf lining up
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  • #282
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:05am Nov 10, 2011 5:05am
Quoting Marlin Man
Screen shot. We'll see
too early,

Marlin Man,

you entered too early

wait for the break out

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #283
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:06am Nov 10, 2011 5:06am
Quoting usasa
Hope this is right.
it is right, but no break out = no entry

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #284
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:07am Nov 10, 2011 5:07am
Quoting Aztrader2
The signal is ok in your chart, but you should have entered at Breakout of the candle!!!

correct!!

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #285
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:09am Nov 10, 2011 5:09am
Quoting iwontsmoke
of course we dont enter trades there.

check this. thats where i have entered. and as you can see from the white box 4hr ha was red and turned to green.
iwontsmoke,

you did perfect !!

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #286
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:13am Nov 10, 2011 5:13am
Quoting usasa
Can we take the trade suppose if next bar MTF line up green and breaks the high of arrow bar?
YES.

so in this case no trade.

wait for the next set up

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #287
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:16am Nov 10, 2011 5:16am
Quoting Aztrader2
I don't want to trade out of your rules. The problem is (as Udine said), with different brokers we can or we cannot have arrows. With MTF indicators, I saw the barcount in history of the charts is a factor too...

So, I'm waiting for Udine's final word

Resuming: Trade the first candle all signals aggree, or trade only when (in our charts) the arrow appears?

Aztrader,

good thinking.

when the arrow is not there, it could mean that the momentum is not there. Sometimes I trade anyway and get my 10 pips.

It is a little more risky, but did not hurt my positive strike rate too much

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #288
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:18am Nov 10, 2011 5:18am
Quoting deankenny21
yes, i see where your coming from.
The method started from eg moving over a pivot line pulling back and failing at the pivot, then continuing in the momentum direction.

Udine the modified it magically to be even simpler, but the key is the small pullback on the chart we look at, which is signiied by a close of a red ha on the m15, then we get a move up green closed ha on 15min, with this new green 15 min candle also with it came along all the mtf lighting green, this is the safest and cleanest signal to carry momentum, as we know we just took...

Dean,

my head is spinning

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #289
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:19am Nov 10, 2011 5:19am
Quoting Aztrader2
Udine said it....
and the truth is some people has arrow and other not.... why?

Aztrader,

different brokers

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #290
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:19am Nov 10, 2011 5:19am
Quoting Udine
Aztrader,

good thinking.

when the arrow is not there, it could mean that the momentum is not there. Sometimes I trade anyway and get my 10 pips.

It is a little more risky, but did not hurt my positive strike rate too much

Udine
That's what I wanted to know!!!!!

And just another little question: when you take 10 pips you call it a day, or you're talking about taking at least 10 pips a day...?
  • #291
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:22am Nov 10, 2011 5:22am
Quoting Sgt.forex
Hi all,
for everyone who has problems with the trade entry, just add the standard bollinger bands indi with the settings: 30,0,1,close to your chart.
Ifyou have an entry signal AND the signal candle closes outside the bands, it is a very good entry.

Udine, i don`t want to manipulate mess up system/thread but i think this could help some people who still are not sure when to enter a trade.

Cheers
sgt.forex,

if it makes you money who am I, but try to keep the system as clear as possibble

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #292
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:24am Nov 10, 2011 5:24am
Quoting Aztrader2
Sorry Udine, who said wanna get rich quick? And I surely aggree 10 pips are enough!
I just want be sure to trade the right way your great system!

So, in first page there are your examples: as I see, you took one trade (n.3 perfet trade as you said) at first all green signals and not after a pullback.... and not speaking about arrows. So I did in my trade I posted before...
no problem.

you scored !!

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #293
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:27am Nov 10, 2011 5:27am
Am i the only one experiencing it? The INVICTUS MTF ADR repaints heavily, even after the close of the bar.
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  • #294
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:30am Nov 10, 2011 5:30am
Quoting fmfx1
Am i the only one experiencing it? The INVICTUS MTF ADR repaints heavily, even after the close of the bar.
fmfx1,

it is not repainting.

we look at the 15M timeframe.
the 1H consists of 4 15M candles and the 4H 16, so during those times, when there is no clear trend, the change color...

is no problem, just be patient

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #295
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:31am Nov 10, 2011 5:31am
Quoting fmfx1
Am i the only one experiencing it? The INVICTUS MTF ADR repaints heavily, even after the close of the bar.
That's why we enter at brekout of signal bar....
  • #296
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:34am Nov 10, 2011 5:34am
For me it was a signal bar (also if near openline) but I didn't take beacuse too near GBP interest rate at 13:00 (GMT+1)
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  • #297
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:35am Nov 10, 2011 5:35am
Quoting Aztrader2
For me it was a signal bar (also if near openline) but I didn't take beacuse too near GBP interest rate at 13:00 (GMT+1)
it also has not broken the low of that bar
and my atr is red on cable
  • #298
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:40am Nov 10, 2011 5:40am
Quoting deankenny21
it also has not broken the low of that bar
and my atr is red on cable
Yes, you're right! I forgot to look at atr

(obviously I always speak of break of a valid signal bar...... )
  • #299
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:42am Nov 10, 2011 5:42am
Quoting Aztrader2
For me it was a signal bar (also if near openline) but I didn't take beacuse too near GBP interest rate at 13:00 (GMT+1)
Az (my favourite football club in The Netherlands ,

good thinking !!

account preservation first rule in trading !!

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #300
  • Nov 10, 2011 5:43am Nov 10, 2011 5:43am
Quoting Udine
sgt.forex,

if it makes you money who am I, but try to keep the system as clear as possibble

Udine
Sure, but try it if you want. Itīs a very nice filter

Cheers
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