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  • First Post: Edited Dec 2, 2011 5:26am Nov 18, 2011 3:49am | Edited Dec 2, 2011 5:26am
  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
Ive had about 20 pm's since yesterday of worried members in Invictus thread, who are too scared to raise thier voice in case of being punished, no problem thats up to you, but basically they were asking for my difference on the 2 different methods i am practicing at the moment

So as a promise to a couple of them here is my results to get a clearer picture of the two, i will record each day

Invictus can be found here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=325018
Fratelli can be found here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=325942

for invictus, trades only taken when all rules met with an arrow, pivot is more than 10 pips away, daily open is more than 10 pips away also, we are not near any news.

for fratelli, all rules must be met, trades will not be taken around news time

Invictus: original trailing 5pips move to BE trails by 0.1 pip at a time
Fratelli: all pairs go to BE at 10 pips and trail 1 pip at a time.

and both will only be traded Frankfurt open to London close.

Results for 1st December 2011

Invictus

GU +10
GU -20

Total = -20


Fratelli

EU -20
EU +9.5 (0.5 pips from 20, bad luck)
EJ -20 (my first trade ientered late, and still got stopped)
EJ +20
EJ -20
AU +3
EJ +3.3
AU +2.2
EJ -20
EU -25
AU -20
EJ +1

Total = -86


Invictus = 11 winners 7 loser = -80.7pips
Fratelli = 60 Winners 28 loser = +122.7pips
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  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
results for 17th Nov 2011

Invictus:
UC -20 Frankfurt UC -20 London
GU -20 London + NY
AU +5 London + NY


TOTAL = -55 pips

PS: from 18th onwards, only EU and GU will be traded on invictus.




Fratelli


AU +20
EU +4.2
GU -15
AU +20
EU +5.7
GU +15
GU -0.1


Total = +49.8 pips
 
 
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  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
Fratelli 17th

 
 
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  •  deankenny21
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Fratelli 17th
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  •  deankenny21
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Invictus 17th
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  •  deankenny21
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results so far for 18th november

Invictus

EU -20
EU +10

total -10


Fratelli

EU +20
AU +8.2
GU +15

Total = +43.2

EU buy currently in play on Fratelli also, Stop safely slightly in the positive, will update accordingly
 
 
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  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
EU profit taken for +20 on Fratelli
GU profit taken for +10 on Invictus (pivot was 14 pips away on break of signal candle)
was also a signal for u on invictus, but resting on pivot so avoided.

update on totals for today

Invictus = 2 winners 1 loser = breakeven 0 pips

Fratelli = 4 trades 4 winners = +63.2pips
 
 
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  •  ukcool
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Good idea, go for it buddy
 
 
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  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
Quoting ukcool
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Good idea, go for it buddy
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yea i had quite a few requests as a lot of people work and dont have the time to forward test 1 method let alone 2!, i live in UK and work nights, do not start till 7PM so i have all the time in the world
 
 
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  •  Polleczko
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Great idea deankenny21 subscribed,

I don't belive in invictus either, I mean to take every trade in recommended hours, there is no way to be profitable in the long run, too crapy R:R. Im sure rest will notice that when invictus EA will be released.

As any system both invitius and fratelli can be profitable, but u need to pay attention on other things, like Udine said, no mans land, lunch time and 10000others things.

My bet is on Fratelli system, better R:R will pay off.

Good luck and thx

P.
 
 
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  •  deankenny21
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Quoting Polleczko
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Great idea deankenny21 subscribed,

I don't belive in invictus either, I mean to take every trade in recommended hours, there is no way to be profitable in the long run, too crapy R:R. Im sure rest will notice that when invictus EA will be released.

As any system both invitius and fratelli can be profitable, but u need to pay attention on other things, like Udine said, no mans land, lunch time and 10000others things.

My bet is on Fratelli system, better R:R will pay off.

Good luck and thx

P.
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well we cant be sure yet, Invictus is a good system, but too much discretion comes into it, Fratelli also is a great system, and good thing about Fratelli is its still being finetuned so its not a finished product.

I have taken trades purely on rules on both methods, Fratelli seems to filter out alot of discretion based losers which is good.

But its a marathon not a sprint, but will keep updating when i can.
Again many thanks.

And for those pmming, just post no need to pm me, no ones going to shoot you lol
 
 
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  • Nov 18, 2011 4:43am Nov 18, 2011 4:43am
  •  daytrade5
  • | Joined Jun 2008 | Status: Member | 301 Posts
Quoting deankenny21
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EU profit taken for +20 on Fratelli
GU profit taken for +10 on Invictus (pivot was 14 pips away on break of signal candle)
was also a signal for u on invictus, but resting on pivot so avoided.

update on totals for today

Invictus = 2 winners 1 loser = breakeven 0 pips

Fratelli = 4 trades 4 winners = +63.2pips
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Dean.....impressive so far. Looks like a very nice piece of work.
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  •  deankenny21
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Currently in a buy on AU on Fratelli, long candle for the signal it is up a few pips, has it travelled to far, i dont know, but all rules met and trade taken.
Will update accordingly
 
 
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  • Nov 18, 2011 4:50am Nov 18, 2011 4:50am
  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
forgot to add the trailing rules onto first post so will edit that:

Invictus: original trailing 5pips move to BE trails by 0.1 pip at a time
Fratelli: all pairs go to BE at 10 pips and trail 1 pip at a time.
 
 
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  • Nov 18, 2011 4:57am Nov 18, 2011 4:57am
  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
AU buy still in play on Fratelli currently floating at +5
missed the BE trigger by a fraction
Lets see how it goes
will update accordingly
 
 
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  •  deankenny21
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Finally hit the BE point on AU with Fratelli
will update final result accordingly
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  •  deankenny21
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Finally hit the BE point on AU with Fratelli
will update final result accordingly
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and as i was posting the above AU hit full TP for +20 on fratelli
 
 
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  • Nov 18, 2011 5:08am Nov 18, 2011 5:08am
  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
update after another trade
update on totals for today

Invictus = 2 winners 1 loser = breakeven 0 pips

Fratelli = 5 trades 5 winners = +83.2pips
 
 
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  • Nov 18, 2011 5:17am Nov 18, 2011 5:17am
  •  deankenny21
  • Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Senior Member - Pro FX Trader | 2,735 Posts
my last 2 trades on fratelli
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  • Nov 18, 2011 5:19am Nov 18, 2011 5:19am
  •  236dave
  • | Joined Jun 2010 | Status: Member | 107 Posts
I too was following Invictus, but was having doubts.
I also live in the uk, but have to work during most of London trading times.
Its really helpful of you to forward test, both systems and I will watch with interest.
Keep up the good work, its much appreciated!
BTW - I will have to catch up with the Fratelli thread.
236dave
 
 
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