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  • #558,581
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:13pm Nov 4, 2011 1:13pm
Quoting factorof2
If you can program in MQL4, picking up C and C++ will probably be no sweat for you. I would personally take C++ because I have thought of some clever applications of the object oriented structure that you could put to use in trading and it's also a lot more readable and self-explanatory I assume. It's as visual as you can get with a programming language (objects that is)

Soimeone else mentioned that too on the thread I started, so I will be looking into that this weekend. I asked my IT boy to teach me one on one so I can learn just enough of what I need to get this started. We are gong to start doing that in the weekends starting in a few weeks. I am thick as sh!t though and that's why I asked around to see if there was a shortcut.

I still think that if MT4 was multithread, I wouldn't have this problem.
  • #558,582
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:19pm Nov 4, 2011 1:19pm
Quoting GoldMan.
Take it easy pal, no need to p!ss all over yourself.
Any piss going on , it is over you and your mates. However as the old saying goes.... i'll leave you to your own little fire in the conviction that you will combust out of existence...
All systems of divination, like music itself,work through patterns.
  • #558,583
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:19pm Nov 4, 2011 1:19pm
BTW, this was why I closed that long earlier, we have reached equilibrium for the day and the week and I didn't think that the late NY session had any power left to test the other side here.
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  • #558,584
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:20pm Nov 4, 2011 1:20pm
Quoting cloggie
Soimeone else mentioned that too on the thread I started, so I will be looking into that this weekend. I asked my IT boy to teach me one on one so I can learn just enough of what I need to get this started. We are gong to start doing that in the weekends starting in a few weeks. I am thick as sh!t though and that's why I asked around to see if there was a shortcut.

I still think that if MT4 was multithread, I wouldn't have this problem.
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

When I learned it as a kid, I found this site really helpful. You can always look into some of the books after you get a small session out of the way. There are plenty of references all over the internet but nothing beats the books by Bjarne Stroustrup (since he wrote the language).
  • #558,585
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:21pm Nov 4, 2011 1:21pm
Quoting 21vs7
yes.




Covered high at 85.

Done for today. 336,3 pips.

Should have been 650 for the day. Learning...
Ooops ... somewhat makes me feel sorry for you ...






;-|
2013-07-31 Today's Phrase of the Day: Hold off from any recycle bin experts
  • #558,586
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:22pm Nov 4, 2011 1:22pm
Closed all my open positions for +61 today.
  • #558,587
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:22pm Nov 4, 2011 1:22pm
Quoting factorof2
Well since you're running everything in MT4, chances are it's just because it's a tick run program that requires the "virtual machine" of the MT4 platform to run during your trading session. My guess is it's the same reason that Java programs are far more demanding and less efficient than those written in C/C++.

The processing power also depends on the processor architecture that you're on as well, given that they're on HP machines (I've always been less than impressed) it's probably nothing special. If you ever plan on getting new systems together,...

My next upgrade is Blades, but I am waiting for the next Intel chipset to do that. I like the z800's, they are workstations, not desktops. I haven't used a normal desktop in years. Outgrew them ages ago.
  • #558,588
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:23pm Nov 4, 2011 1:23pm
Quoting factorof2
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

When I learned it as a kid, I found this site really helpful. You can always look into some of the books after you get a small session out of the way. There are plenty of references all over the internet but nothing beats the books by Bjarne Stroustrup (since he wrote the language).

Bookmarked, thanks a bundle.
  • #558,589
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:24pm Nov 4, 2011 1:24pm
Quoting kaspopsicle
Any piss going on , it is over you and your mates. However as the old saying goes.... i'll leave you to your own little fire in the conviction that you will combust out of existence...
I don't really understand what pricks your ass, don't even know you, no drama needed, drop it.
  • #558,590
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:25pm Nov 4, 2011 1:25pm
Quoting cloggie
Bookmarked, thanks a bundle.
No problem, if you ever have questions about C or C++ feel free to PM me about it. Most of my programming experience in it is related to numerical analysis and mathematics libraries.
  • #558,591
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:34pm Nov 4, 2011 1:34pm
Quoting cloggie
I totally agree and should really transfer the whole thing to C/C++, which I am going to learn, I am old school so still like the visual representation of MT4 and it is easy to program as the visual interface already exists.

I know I need to get away from it, not quite sure yet how I am going to go about it. My tickdata is already in SQL and that is probably going to be the infrastructure I will end up building the whole thing from as I don't really want to redo that part either. I didn't build the SQL part, I had that done for me as it is not...
Hi Cloggie,

Mind pointing me in the right direction on getting the tickdata to SQL? Thank you in advance!

Best regards.
  • #558,592
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:34pm Nov 4, 2011 1:34pm
Quoting factorof2
No problem, if you ever have questions about C or C++ feel free to PM me about it. Most of my programming experience in it is related to numerical analysis and mathematics libraries.

Thanks. The guy who is going to be teaching me build everything in my trading rooms that is not confidential, except for the hardware, got another guy for that.

I was really hoping that I could find a shortcut, did not really want to redo the whole thing.....Changing to C++ shouldn;t take me as long as it took me to get it into MT4, the hard work is done, just need to translate it now in another language and change some of the infrastructure around.
  • #558,593
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:35pm Nov 4, 2011 1:35pm
Quoting GoldMan.
I don't really understand what pricks your ass, don't even know you, no drama needed, drop it.
No drama.THINK B4 you post... oh, and if you like to stretch your ego and bad language you could go do battle elsewhere...why not start trading?
All systems of divination, like music itself,work through patterns.
  • #558,594
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:36pm Nov 4, 2011 1:36pm
Quoting mercy seat
Ooops ... somewhat makes me feel sorry for you ...



;-|
Just working on it...

SL to BE.

Have a nice weekend
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  • #558,595
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:41pm Nov 4, 2011 1:41pm
Quoting cloggie
That'll do me for 70, thank you very much.

Cloggie covers his longs and we drop 30 pips... NICE....
  • #558,596
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:41pm Nov 4, 2011 1:41pm
Quoting cloggie
Thanks. The guy who is going to be teaching me build everything in my trading rooms that is not confidential, except for the hardware, got another guy for that.

I was really hoping that I could find a shortcut, did not really want to redo the whole thing.....Changing to C++ shouldn;t take me as long as it took me to get it into MT4, the hard work is done, just need to translate it now in another language and change some of the infrastructure around.
Exactly, and you'll probably find that working in C++, while syntactically more complex, is much more efficient and not to mention far more powerful. The ability to manipulate individual memory addresses and work with arrays is much cleaner, faster, and more efficient. There are so many more shortcuts to be had
  • #558,597
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:42pm Nov 4, 2011 1:42pm
Quoting kaspopsicle
No drama.THINK B4 you post... oh, and if you like to stretch your ego and bad language you could go do battle elsewhere...why not start trading?
This post was for cloggie anyway so you've opened your mouth in a wrong place. Why not start trading? Don't really know what youre talking, been trading all day and ended it when london closed.

Seems this thread only want's a drama, don't worry, I have only been here because of cloggies posts, guy who really knows he's shit and does not attack random people....like some.
  • #558,598
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:43pm Nov 4, 2011 1:43pm
Done for the week.

Thanks to BOJ and European problems it has been my best trading week ever.

Too bad that BOJ Intervention was in October otherwise I would have met my November goal already

Happy weekend for everyone. Time for a few drinks.
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  • #558,599
  • Nov 4, 2011 2:34pm Nov 4, 2011 2:34pm
Does anyone know whether a stop can technically be hit in case of a gap? I mean if the gap is way higher/lower than the stop..

Or is it up to each individual broker
  • #558,600
  • Nov 4, 2011 2:36pm Nov 4, 2011 2:36pm
Quoting Cerber.bf2
Does anyone know whether a stop can technically be hit in case of a gap? I mean if the gap is way higher/lower than the stop..

Or is it up to each individual broker

If your broker shuts (the market doesn't) why don't you play it safe and cover for the weekend for the sake of the spread. Can you really aniticpate what Mr P is going to say in 3 hours during the press conference? Do you really want to gamble with the Greeks in charge?

Keep in mind retail brokers do not honor stops during the weekend, you will get stopped at the first available price once your broker opens again.
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