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  • #558,561
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:45pm Nov 4, 2011 12:45pm
Quoting cloggie
Yeah I saw them sitting there, figure I mop it all up before it got there for an easy 30 pips, that's what you get for your alt/f4 joke.....


Who's laughing now......

That'll do me for 70, thank you very much.
  • #558,562
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:46pm Nov 4, 2011 12:46pm
1,372x area was the key area today...a dip below it and it could have opened the way to 1,35.

Big boys won't let it happens before the magic 1,4000 it seems
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  • #558,563
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:47pm Nov 4, 2011 12:47pm
Euro trade from last night still running at +17, barely missed my TP below 1.3720. Aussie still running but 12 pips negative. Pending sell triggered on Swissy, for +52 right now.
  • #558,564
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:49pm Nov 4, 2011 12:49pm
Quoting kuroro001
1,372x area was the key area today...a dip below it and it could have opened the way to 1,35.

Big boys won't let it happens before the magic 1,4000 it seems
Very good.
  • #558,565
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:49pm Nov 4, 2011 12:49pm
Stocks get a second push up, taking EU along, almost all NFP losses made up in just a few minutes, DAX Future also doing well again.
  • #558,566
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:51pm Nov 4, 2011 12:51pm
Quoting Cerber.bf2
you guys need to break up so you can become a better trader. just saying
our relationship is one year old now and still in love so anything can happen... im talking about eurusd So far we're carrying hard love with 100pips hedge position thats why i started to use SL now in uncertain market. it moved 10pips in my favour why not cover 5pips and watch profits or stay happy with 5 green pips when it turns against me.


Still a lot of to learn... but with all that eurozone theatre... everything can happen. I guess there is vote confidence meeting in greece now? too much to risk for a weekend.

RT @djfxtrader: ""There will be a coalition govt by Monday if Papandreou wins the vote tonight," cabnt min and PM confidante tells Dow Jones
4 Nov 18:39:33
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Italian Finance Minister warns that if Prime Minister Berlusconi does not step down, "on Monday there will be a disaster on the markets."

so you see.... my gf is so much easier to predict than eurusd now
  • #558,567
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:53pm Nov 4, 2011 12:53pm
I think that we will soon go lower but this is as close to a gamble as you can get.
  • #558,568
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:53pm Nov 4, 2011 12:53pm
Quoting mario83

so you see.... my gf is so much easier to predict than eurusd now


word!
  • #558,569
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:54pm Nov 4, 2011 12:54pm
Quoting GoldMan.
Why you want to speed it up? Don't really understand the ultimate purpose, we all trade because we want money, you want to capture every micro second and that helps you to get even more money?

Yup, I keep finetuning my strategy and need faster PC's to get to the next level now, then I can finally automate the darn thing. I still miss moves during the day, today case in point, missed a 40 pipper during lunch or else I would have had each and every move since Asia last night, can' be having that now can we...And I am still missing the 10-15 pip start of the moves, that's why I am crunching more numbers just to get it a little more accurately.

The markets are more and more driven by machines and I got to keep adjusting my algos to keep up with them, what I am working on now is the final step in the process. Once I am happy with the math and can run it on the machines without the darn thing slowing down, then I can automate the whole shebang.
  • #558,570
  • Nov 4, 2011 12:59pm Nov 4, 2011 12:59pm
Quoting cloggie
Yup, I keep finetuning my strategy and need faster PC's to get to the next level now, then I can finally automate the darn thing. I still miss moves during the day, today case in point, missed a 40 pipper during lunch or else I would have had each and every move since Asia last night, can' be having that now can we...And I am still missing the 10-15 pip start of the moves, that's why I am crunching more numbers just to get it a little more accurately.

The markets are more and more driven by machines and I got to keep adjusting my algos to keep...
Automate? Seems to be some kind of holy grail, need to but my hacking skills at work.:nerd:
Don't worry, good luck with that.
  • #558,571
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:00pm Nov 4, 2011 1:00pm
I once told my mentor that I needed a faster better computer. He told me, "A better computer doesn't make a better trader."

I'm glad that I don't catch every single dip and rally on the charts, I can't even imagine the amount of mental strain and stress it would take to endure that! ^_^
  • #558,572
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:00pm Nov 4, 2011 1:00pm
Quoting cloggie
Yup, I keep finetuning my strategy and need faster PC's to get to the next level now, then I can finally automate the darn thing. I still miss moves during the day, today case in point, missed a 40 pipper during lunch or else I would have had each and every move since Asia last night, can' be having that now can we...And I am still missing the 10-15 pip start of the moves, that's why I am crunching more numbers just to get it a little more accurately.

The markets are more and more driven by machines and I got to keep adjusting my algos to keep...
What kind of processing power are you looking at anyway? I would be very surprised if your algorithms couldn't be optimized to run on a quad core 3.0 GHz processor or something. Well not surprised, just impressed by what must be a lot of complexity underneath.
  • #558,573
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:02pm Nov 4, 2011 1:02pm
Quoting GoldMan.
Automate? Seems to be some kind of holy grail, need to but my hacking skills at work.:nerd:
Don't worry, good luck with that.

It's no holy grail, just my thinking translated into math, that's where I get some of those levels from I post here. I have worked for the last year to bring it into a visual representation into MT4 with lots of digital filtering, and that is now slowing things down. My code is probably crap too which doesn't help, it runs fine outside of MT4, it just doesn't run very well inside of it, I can barely run 2 sessions on each workstation and it is clogging PC power to do other things. That is my predicament.
  • #558,574
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:04pm Nov 4, 2011 1:04pm
Quoting factorof2
What kind of processing power are you looking at anyway? I would be very surprised if your algorithms couldn't be optimized to run on a quad core 3.0 GHz processor or something. Well not surprised, just impressed by what must be a lot of complexity underneath.

I got dual 2.8 quads 8Mb cache and 16G RAm on each machine (HP z800's) and they can't handle it, not quite sure where the fuckups are really. I am a trader who has taught himself to program (which is probably the biggest problem) so now I am trying to find a shortcut to speed things up. It takes close to 100k calculations to start the day and then it gets adjusted for each and every tick, so it does add up during the course of a day.
  • #558,575
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:05pm Nov 4, 2011 1:05pm
Quoting GoldMan.
Why you want to speed it up? Don't really understand the ultimate purpose, we all trade because we want money, you want to capture every micro second and that helps you to get even more money?

Enjoy some p*ssy and sunshine, don't try to over code things
speaking as a pussy...your best way of making money is to speed up on your trigger... as far as i'm concerned that means getting the best speed out of your platform...coordination with charting and execution of trades. Yes , entry is crucial in these market conditions. Exit is even more crucial. It looks like you're getting neither if you choose to joke as you do. Poor wee thing.
All systems of divination, like music itself,work through patterns.
  • #558,576
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:06pm Nov 4, 2011 1:06pm
Quoting cloggie
I got dual 2.8 quads 8Mb cache and 16G RAm on each machine (HP z800's) and they can't handle it, not quite sure where the fuckups are really. I am a trader who has taught himself to program (which is probably the biggest problem) so now I am trying to find a shortcut to speed things up.
Well since you're running everything in MT4, chances are it's just because it's a tick run program that requires the "virtual machine" of the MT4 platform to run during your trading session. My guess is it's the same reason that Java programs are far more demanding and less efficient than those written in C/C++.

The processing power also depends on the processor architecture that you're on as well, given that they're on HP machines (I've always been less than impressed) it's probably nothing special. If you ever plan on getting new systems together, you could always build yourself a system. Or send me specs, and I can put together a list of parts.
  • #558,577
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:07pm Nov 4, 2011 1:07pm
So it took full correction with gu bullish move perhaps , out of trade now & will look short again if breaks 3779 soon & if want this wekend .
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  • #558,578
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:07pm Nov 4, 2011 1:07pm
Quoting factorof2
Well since you're running everything in MT4, chances are it's just because it's a tick run program that requires the "virtual machine" of the MT4 platform to run during your trading session. My guess is it's the same reason that Java programs are far more demanding and less efficient than those written in C/C++.

I totally agree and should really transfer the whole thing to C/C++, which I am going to learn, I am old school so still like the visual representation of MT4 and it is easy to program as the visual interface already exists.

I know I need to get away from it, not quite sure yet how I am going to go about it. My tickdata is already in SQL and that is probably going to be the infrastructure I will end up building the whole thing from as I don't really want to redo that part either. I didn't build the SQL part, I had that done for me as it is not confidential, I just don't want to share the code or even the thinking of this one with anyone else so need to figure it out on my own. I had some other DLL's written for me out of the database and am eyeballing that to see if I can copy some of that work to make this filtering process work for me outside of MT4 and then just use a dll to drive a simple chart, but keep all the background work outside of it. In order to do that though I need to learn C/C++ first.

And now you know my dilemma, stuck between a rock and a heartbeat. It does work right now, it is just frightenly slow.
  • #558,579
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:09pm Nov 4, 2011 1:09pm
Quoting kaspopsicle
speaking as a pussy...your best way of making money is to speed up on your trigger... as far as i'm concerned that means getting the best speed out of your platform...coordination with charting and execution of trades. Yes , entry is crucial in these market conditions. Exit is even more crucial. It looks like you're getting neither if you choose to joke as you do. Poor wee thing.
Take it easy pal, no need to p!ss all over yourself.
  • #558,580
  • Nov 4, 2011 1:11pm Nov 4, 2011 1:11pm
Quoting cloggie
I totally agree and should really transfer the whole thing to C/C++, which I am going to learn, I am old school so still like the visual representation of MT4 and it is easy to program as the visual interface already exists.

I know I need to get away from it, not quite sure yet how I am going to go about it. My tickdata is already in SQL and that is probably going to be the infrastructure I will end up building the whole thing from as I don't really want to redo that part either.
If you can program in MQL4, picking up C and C++ will probably be no sweat for you. I would personally take C++ because I have thought of some clever applications of the object oriented structure that you could put to use in trading and it's also a lot more readable and self-explanatory I assume. It's as visual as you can get with a programming language (objects that is)
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