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  • #24,921
  • Aug 15, 2011 8:19am Aug 15, 2011 8:19am
Tp 2 hit I´m out.
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  • #24,922
  • Aug 15, 2011 8:37am Aug 15, 2011 8:37am
Changed my mind, all out at 1.4395...
  • #24,923
  • Edited 9:34am Aug 15, 2011 8:56am | Edited 9:34am
Sir TAH,,

Stop going the old way..

As I look @ the 4 entries of urs..you avg 1.426x and now we are 1.446x
Your are in under water about - 200 pips with 4 positions..

Do not add a position blindly..(Sonic Classic was screaming Long since 1.431 and you will be up 160 pips if u follow the rules) .and you need sound money management..
If you can't obey that, trading isn't for u...


Sincerely..
Sonic
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  • #24,924
  • Aug 15, 2011 9:31am Aug 15, 2011 9:31am
Quoting hansma
Tp 2 hit I´m out.
Congrats Hans...

Pefect trading!!!
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #24,925
  • Aug 15, 2011 10:06am Aug 15, 2011 10:06am
Quoting nando_rich
Congrats Hans...

Pefect trading!!!

Thanks mate.

Just following the sonic setups
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #24,926
  • Aug 15, 2011 10:50am Aug 15, 2011 10:50am
Quoting Pirabuji
Hi Piphunter,

1. The three set ups you mention, are they as drawn in blue? What was indecisive about the longs?

2. Do you draw out key S&R on the 1H chart and then wait for PA to reach there and look for waves on the 15M chart?

3. Do you not trade using the dragon or volume?

Thanks,
P
hi P:

refer to your questions:
1. the one in blue box was taken. the longs were the one at 23:45 08/AUG and 22:00 10/AUG. sorry I am not using my own laptop, so cannot get a pictures. the M15 waves for those long were not clear, so I call it "indecisive" to me

2. yes, the S/R bases on daily H4, and H1 chart, then I seek for good setup in M15 around those area, I do this with following reasons:
a. I work busy job, I have not much time for the chart, the per selected range give me alerts when i need to pay attention.
b. the S/R range is additional condition to the Sonic R trade, in order to increase the hit rate, and reduce the trade numbers
c. to me, having average 2 to 3 high quality trades per weeks is enough, my system expetency is
hit rate over 80%,
reward:risk over 2.2 average.
risk 2% to 4% of my capital per trade, 4% for trend trade and 2% CT.
expect weekly return of capital is average 9%
d. making 200pips or 1000 pips per week is NO difference for me, the key factor is how you manage money and risk. therefore, i perfer take less number of trades and make less pip to achieve.

3. I use M15 Dragon for trade confirmation, but not trend judgement, it pays 15% importance in my decision making. and volume only pays 5% in that regard.

4. another important factor for good set up is call "near-term S/R changed and tested" please refer to my previous post. It's just another way to interpert the wave, it more reliable and clean IMO.

hope it helps.
seeing through
  • #24,927
  • Aug 15, 2011 11:13am Aug 15, 2011 11:13am
Quoting pipphunter
EU this week's plan is in the same range, waiting the market break, up or donw, we don't know yet. I am a bit bearish bias base on fundamental.
I missed this run up and watching it past by, beacuse i have bearish bias in mind. it reminds me again, be humble to the market!! no matter what we think, the market moves in its own way, all we need to do, just follow it, Sonic R is the compass.

no matter how much we think we know, and how well we know it, there is always part of the market factors that we cannot see, therefore what we think really means nothing...all we need to do be a trader is, hold your compass and follow the path the market shows to you.

good night bros
seeing through
  • #24,928
  • Edited 1:21pm Aug 15, 2011 12:36pm | Edited 1:21pm
Quoting pipphunter
hi P:

refer to your questions:
1. the one in blue box was taken. the longs were the one at 23:45 08/AUG and 22:00 10/AUG. sorry I am not using my own laptop, so cannot get a pictures. the M15 waves for those long were not clear, so I call it "indecisive" to me

2. yes, the S/R bases on daily H4, and H1 chart, then I seek for good setup in M15 around those area, I do this with following reasons:
a. I work busy job, I have not much time for the chart, the per selected range give me alerts when i need to pay attention.
b. the S/R range is additional...
4. another important factor for good set up is call "near-term S/R changed and tested" please refer to my previous post. It's just another way to interpert the wave, it more reliable and clean IMO.



I cannot stress the bold enough. Waves are based upon S/R. I use a 3 level MACD and corresponding MA's. Winning the S/R game is knowing how to trade as a winner. KNOW WAVES with at least PA and it you choose to use a MACD if you need to for visual wave trends on a upper and lower chart that you use.
  • #24,929
  • Aug 15, 2011 1:07pm Aug 15, 2011 1:07pm
Quoting TRMZXT
I cannot stress the bold enough. Waves are based upon S/R. I use a 3 level MACD and corresponding MA's. Winning the S/R game is knowing how to trade as a winner. KNOW WAVES with at least PA and it you choose to use a MACD is you need to for visual wave trends on a upper and lower chart that you use.

I guess this is what you mean
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  • #24,930
  • Aug 15, 2011 1:10pm Aug 15, 2011 1:10pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Sir TAH,,

Stop going the old way..

As I look @ the 4 entries of urs..you avg 1.426x and now we are 1.446x
Your are in under water about - 200 pips with 4 positions..

Do not add a position blindly..(Sonic Classic was screaming Long since 1.431 and you will be up 160 pips if u follow the rules) .and you need sound money management..
If you can't obey that, trading isn't for u...


Sincerely..
Sonic
it is not learned never goes against the tide, as always

Tah do not follow the rules accordingly and not get any results, only pollute this topic in its setup in such

his live trade setups reflects the trader's insight into the market

shame should be for this trader, but it will never not learned.
  • #24,931
  • Aug 15, 2011 1:19pm Aug 15, 2011 1:19pm
Quoting hansma
I guess this is what you mean

ehhh I was in way back at 1.4234 Check last Friday pics on waves and fear of bounce of resistance and going up.
  • #24,932
  • Edited 2:02pm Aug 15, 2011 1:33pm | Edited 2:02pm
Quoting TRMZXT
ehhh I was in way back at 1.4234 Check last Friday pics on waves and fear of bounce of resistance and going up.

Please clarify. Cause to me at 1.4234 you would have created a possible sonic wave up ??? Dragon up etc.
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  • #24,933
  • Aug 15, 2011 2:08pm Aug 15, 2011 2:08pm
Quoting hansma
Please clarify. Cause to me at 1.4234 you would have created a possible sonic wave up ??? Dragon up etc.
I was looking at a possible 5M Sonic trade short. Me and TAH where talking about it. If it went through the zone it would have be a great trade and better than what I got in pips. I was looking at a trend line a resistance along with a Resistance level. It bounced and I got it on a the bounce off that level per wave action of smaller charts. I use smaller charts to enter positions on larger charts.
  • #24,934
  • Aug 15, 2011 2:20pm Aug 15, 2011 2:20pm
Quoting enigma4x
chillin in the morning ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrfjr...=35&playnext=0

EURUSD LONG NEXT WEEK

It was a mistake - last week- I wasn´t stable

yessss

EURUSD LONG

ENIGMA4X HAS SPOKEN

I hope there come the time who I´m wrong in long term.

The most important part in trading - high hitrate - small sl - great leverage - all what i do
mmmh

I won one battle in the past - did u remeber master sonic ... u was short - me was long

Okay second round ...

p.s....
high probability strike

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enigma4x has spoken
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #24,935
  • Edited 2:43pm Aug 15, 2011 2:25pm | Edited 2:43pm
Quoting TRMZXT
I was looking at a possible 5M Sonic trade short. Me and TAH where talking about it. If it went through the zone it would have be a great trade and better than what I got in pips. I was looking at a trend line a resistance along with a Resistance level. It bounced and I got it on a the bounce off that level per wave action of smaller charts. I use smaller charts to enter positions on larger charts.
Thx for your explanation - but maybe you should look at it at a larger context.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
H.

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  • #24,936
  • Aug 15, 2011 2:40pm Aug 15, 2011 2:40pm
Quoting hansma
Thx for your explanation - but maybe you should look at it at a larger context.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
H.

thanks!
  • #24,937
  • Aug 15, 2011 4:47pm Aug 15, 2011 4:47pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Sir TAH,,

Stop going the old way..

As I look @ the 4 entries of urs..you avg 1.426x and now we are 1.446x
Your are in under water about - 200 pips with 4 positions..

Do not add a position blindly..(Sonic Classic was screaming Long since 1.431 and you will be up 160 pips if u follow the rules) .and you need sound money management..
If you can't obey that, trading isn't for u...


Sincerely..
Sonic
We need TAH to continue calling his trades, I am making a killing trading the opposite of his averaging trade style.....

Nice thread Sonic.

N2FX
  • #24,938
  • Aug 15, 2011 5:34pm Aug 15, 2011 5:34pm
Question about this system;

I havent read through the 1600 pages to get an answer, but is this system good for 'AFK mode?' Meaning, place a trade as indicated from Sonic R triggers, while be away from the screen until work is finish to view/look at screen?

Looks like a great system, going to be a huge learning curve i would imagine.

Anyways, reading and loving the stuff currently!
  • #24,939
  • Aug 15, 2011 7:06pm Aug 15, 2011 7:06pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
http://www.turtletrader.com/files/im...udor-jones.jpg


Sonic
Sonic, it is good to see you making a stand once again for sound money management, Sonic. This thread has your name on it, and you need to make clear to newbie traders that you do not agree with the TAH Madness Method.

And it is good to see other Sonikers besides myself are finally calling out TAH's irresponsible and dangerous behavior. His commitment to classic SOnicR lasted barely a week, and his unwillingness to follow the set up of the thread has become a form of disrespect to you and to all of those who have tried to help others learn to trade SOnicR properly.

I hope TAH recommits to learning how to trade SonicR properly, and if he is unable to do so, then I hope he at the very least immediatley stops posting his LoserAveragingLosers trades in the thread. It leads others astray, it is not helpful, it is not caring. If he thinks it is a legitimate method, then let hin start his own thread. It is not SonicR.
  • #24,940
  • Aug 15, 2011 7:07pm Aug 15, 2011 7:07pm
Quoting TRMZXT
I was looking at a possible 5M Sonic trade short. Me and TAH where talking about it. If it went through the zone it would have be a great trade and better than what I got in pips. I was looking at a trend line a resistance along with a Resistance level. It bounced and I got it on a the bounce off that level per wave action of smaller charts. I use smaller charts to enter positions on larger charts.

Two problems here:


1) You were consulting TAH about where to enter a position. You need to use better judgement as to whose posts you follow and whose you do not. TAH belongs in the DO NOT FOLLOW list until he returns to his senses and gets with the classic Sonic Program - Trade with the trend using sound money management. Sonic, Basber, Muhammad, Domasfrom the old school. New kids on the block Enigma and Pipphunter have their act together, and Hansma and NandoRich are doing some intersting fib stuff that is worth your attention. Limit your attention to TAH to his templates. TAH has good SonicR templates. The irony is that he doesn't use SonicR.


2) You are upside down and backwarsds with your time frames. Lookking at smaller and smaller charts is amateur trading. Trust me - no self respecting "Big Boy" looks at an m1 or m5. You should be entering on the m15 based on what the higher time frames are telling you, not entering on the m5 based on what the m15 or TAH is telling you. M15, H1, & H4 for trading S/R, and Daily, Weekly, Monthly for long term trends.
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