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  • #476,161
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:11pm Jun 29, 2011 4:11pm
Quoting Gleneagles
the numbers can vary greatly depending on the source

Eurostat and IMF numbers shown


True, and there is a certain variance in defining debt.

But I will go with the numbers the EU as well as German politics are talking about.

CIA Factbook says 78.x%. For me it is all the same: 83, 78, 75%..........

Keynesian rubbish.....
  • #476,162
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:12pm Jun 29, 2011 4:12pm
Watch out the W pattern on 4 hour. . .

Bearish? Hmmmm...
The market will deceive you. Make your own judgement.
  • #476,163
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:12pm Jun 29, 2011 4:12pm
Seems like everybody is in over their heads in debt. I want to buddy up to whomever all this money is owed to.

And here in the U.S. it doesn't mean you will see Astro hanging around the old folks home in the near future, because that is part of our debt depending on what debt you are looking at, but I am just saying......some debt is owed to ourselves.
  • #476,164
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:20pm Jun 29, 2011 4:20pm
Quoting infinitus
True, and there is a certain variance in defining debt.

But I will go with the numbers the EU as well as German politics are talking about.

CIA Factbook says 78.x%. For me it is all the same: 83, 78, 75%..........

Keynesian rubbish.....
Very little independent research is done to measure how accurate these numbers are...CIA figures are normally outdated in any event.

For me the per capita debt of nation tells me something worthwhile.

In the end it is the ability of a nation to repay the debt that is key.
" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #476,165
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:24pm Jun 29, 2011 4:24pm
Quoting infinitus
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Keynesian rubbish.....
  • #476,166
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:26pm Jun 29, 2011 4:26pm
Quoting Gleneagles
the numbers can vary greatly depending on the source

Eurostat and IMF numbers shown
The numbers i was refering to was the German Bundesbank. Who knows what is ultimately right but taking the whole package into consideration, does it really make any big difference if its 83 or 74? The way things develop, is there any chance that things can improve? NO!
  • #476,167
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:26pm Jun 29, 2011 4:26pm
Quoting Gleneagles
Very little independent research is done to measure how accurate these numbers are...CIA figures are normally outdated in any event.

For me the per capita debt of nation tells me something worthwhile.

In the end it is the ability of a nation to repay the debt that is key.



So true again.

You can not spent out of debt, you have to produce out of debt.....
  • #476,168
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:27pm Jun 29, 2011 4:27pm
Quoting SirMcPip
The numbers i was refering to was the German Bundesbank. Who knows what is ultimately right but taking the whole package into consideration, does it really make any big difference if its 83 or 74? The way things develop, is there any chance that things can improve? NO!
  • #476,169
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:30pm Jun 29, 2011 4:30pm
Quoting infinitus
Ich glaube wir beide sind die Generation, die sich an die 80er Jahre gut erinnern kann. Daß mit good ole Germany irgendwas komplett in die falsche Richtung geht, steht für uns glaube ich außer Zweifel.
  • #476,170
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:30pm Jun 29, 2011 4:30pm
Quoting SirMcPip
The numbers i was refering to was the German Bundesbank. Who knows what is ultimately right but taking the whole package into consideration, does it really make any big difference if its 83 or 74? The way things develop, is there any chance that things can improve? NO!
All I am interested in is to find the correct intraday levels of 20 pips on EU and grab a few +12`s ......
" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #476,171
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:33pm Jun 29, 2011 4:33pm
Quoting Gleneagles
All I am interested in is to find the correct intraday levels of 20 pips on EU and grab a few +12`s ......
I am definitely the wrong guy for that business .
  • #476,172
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:35pm Jun 29, 2011 4:35pm
Quoting Venice
Well, you have the rum drinking part down... that is a great start. lol

hahaha yes Venice......Finished all yesterday night and then went to get a six pack...cant take the tension...put a buy limit order and went to bed.

Today morning woke up to see $2,300 in my a/c.

Was lucky...and no rum today...Dont want to give it back.

Lol...
  • #476,173
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:36pm Jun 29, 2011 4:36pm
Quoting SirMcPip
KCV...believe me, noone knows anymore than you already know. This business is all about the markets and yourself...your SELF . Cheers buddy!

You are 100% correct..

Ty.
  • #476,174
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:37pm Jun 29, 2011 4:37pm
Quoting Gleneagles
All I am interested in is to find the correct intraday levels of 20 pips on EU and grab a few +12`s ......
If you just want to grab just a few +12's I would suggest the USD/JPY.
  • #476,175
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:37pm Jun 29, 2011 4:37pm
Quoting SirMcPip
I am definitely the wrong guy for that business .
Just joking..

I have a keen interest in macroeconomics but in the end for me the PA is king. Different strokes for different folks
" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #476,176
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:39pm Jun 29, 2011 4:39pm
Quoting Astroman
If you just want to grab just a few +12's I would suggest the USD/JPY.
But that currency is not moving at all...So boring...No action...
  • #476,177
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:41pm Jun 29, 2011 4:41pm
still sporadic violence taking place in athens...
  • #476,178
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:42pm Jun 29, 2011 4:42pm
Quoting Astroman
If you just want to grab just a few +12's I would suggest the USD/JPY.
Best pair for +12 is EU , it is like an electric frog the past few sessions because of Greece issues but it is the easiest pair to trade for me. GBP is a close second choice. Asian session is my bedtime....I want to do less for more.. JP WHY was never on my trading menu..
" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #476,179
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:44pm Jun 29, 2011 4:44pm
Quoting Gleneagles
Just joking..

I have a keen interest in macroeconomics but in the end for me the PA is king. Different strokes for different folks
i know you were buddy and guess what, gotta agree with ya, even on the daily and weekly PA is what counts .
  • #476,180
  • Jun 29, 2011 4:48pm Jun 29, 2011 4:48pm
Quoting KCV
But that currency is not moving at all...So boring...No action...
Exactly. If you just want to grab 12 a few times.

The weekly trading range on that pair has been rather volatile as of late, so I can see why some would like to stay away, like 20 Pips a week.

Seriously, that Pair does behave rather nicely except during those rare occurrences when it does not.
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