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  • #464,881
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:10am Jun 17, 2011 3:10am
Quoting fxjawn
still hangin on to the short...
better..lol...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #464,882
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:10am Jun 17, 2011 3:10am
Sell zones: 4170 first stop 4212 2nd stop

All shorts are valid below.

Buy zone: 4251+ with targets clustered around 4280 ATR projection

Possible target for today 4100 if s/l levels hold.

Downtrend found at m5, m15 , m30 and h4 while h1 ,d1 are flat.
  • #464,883
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:10am Jun 17, 2011 3:10am
Quoting PhAnTi'
in Germany we use to call it ''MOF'' = Mensch ohne Freunde = dude without friends




anyway im glad that i wont have any time to post all day long here by end of august.

pew
I can tell you some tricks to do so while working
  • #464,884
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:11am Jun 17, 2011 3:11am
Quoting cloggie
What a shame, I was just starting to have some fun with the muppet.
U don't have a mercy to your Muppet's even till they cover by dust on grave
evil guy
What do u c on ur chart bro?
  • #464,885
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:11am Jun 17, 2011 3:11am
Quoting PayTheLimit
better..lol...
totally i needed a better pathetic feathered look
  • #464,886
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:12am Jun 17, 2011 3:12am
2x10

Sorry, I haven't been posting last few days. Been training a new Beagle to help in this WABBIT chase. Having a great week with the hunt.
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  • #464,887
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:12am Jun 17, 2011 3:12am
Quoting forex1962
Straight question here:

How many people here are making enough real money to live on?

I've been at this game now for about 8 months and only just starting to make a bit of 'real' not demo money, but no where near enough to live on.

If I don't make it soon (within the next month) I'm going to have to go back to a job I hate.......

Just interested to see what position other people are in.
your profile says u are from london....what is the expected amount u want to generate to live out of trading?
Trade responsiblypatience is the key/Swing trader
  • #464,888
  • Edited 3:28am Jun 17, 2011 3:15am | Edited 3:28am
Quoting PhAnTi'
dinner? where the heck do u live?
New Zealand...

just had dinner....
seems we have been reject by support... out+14

wait now
Patience, Emotion Control and Discipline.
  • #464,889
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:17am Jun 17, 2011 3:17am
Quoting rattyo
Thats using brokers like IB. Need 50 grand in the account to execute a decent trade. I dont bother with them anymore. I've got a 6 spreadbet account open now no tax to pay no hassle just got know what your doing
as these firms let you go in with lots of leverage obviously to kill novices off quick.
In Denmark they do not tax you for spread betting?
  • #464,890
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:19am Jun 17, 2011 3:19am
Quoting rattyo
Thats using brokers like IB. Need 50 grand in the account to execute a decent trade. I dont bother with them anymore. I've got a 6 spreadbet account open now no tax to pay no hassle just got know what your doing
as these firms let you go in with lots of leverage obviously to kill novices off quick.
Yes ... leverage is a quite damn important point ...

And for that reason ... you will think in a quite different way about markets chances and risks in case you do this with a more suitable account size ...

Maybe that is another kind of reason why some are bickering that much like hell ... as if we were sitting in a manchester hooligans football stadion ...



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  • #464,891
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:19am Jun 17, 2011 3:19am
Quoting forex1962
Straight question here:

I've been at this game now for about 8 months and only just starting to make a bit of 'real' not demo money, but no where near enough to live on.

If I don't make it soon (within the next month) I'm going to have to go back to a job I hate.......
Sorry if I disappoint you mate but is better not to create false expectation. You should go back to your job.

Don't know your capital but if you like trading keep trading as much as you can while you have a job, maybe if you are still in the game in 3 or 4 years and you have consistently build your account you may evaluate if its an option to trade for a living but in 8 months as retail and in Forex with a manual/subjective trading plan ...no way mate its almost impossible...

Obviously if you have lots of money (or other sources off income) to support yourself and capital to trade you can consider dropping your job and give it a slow try trading full time but again it seems that option is not realistic in your case ...

Just my 2 cents, go back to your job, forget about making a living trading and trade as much as you can without thinking on making xxx money, trading takes a long time, effort, patience and especially pain, and everybody must pay the price for entry (and most with a very fast exit)...good luck in both your decision and in trading.

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #464,892
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:23am Jun 17, 2011 3:23am
Quoting forex1962
Straight question here:

How many people here are making enough real money to live on?

I've been at this game now for about 8 months and only just starting to make a bit of 'real' not demo money, but no where near enough to live on.

If I don't make it soon (within the next month) I'm going to have to go back to a job I hate.......

Just interested to see what position other people are in.
Without knowing how much capital you have, and how much you need to live on, I would say immediately that 8 months is nowhere near long enough to learn how to trade profitably, all those who make enough money to live on have been doing it for years. Just by giving yourself another month to break through is putting huge pressure on yourself , pressure that will lead to stress, and consequently poor results. I have been where you are, as have many, and I can honestly say that the best thing that you can do is go back to work, and use your spare time improving your trading until you know, 100% that you have a system that will work for you. You may have one now, but do you have the right mind-set? this is the critical issue. Do not put pressure on yourself to get results, because it will kill you. Step back, give it as long as it needs, and you will get there if you want to enough.
  • #464,893
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:24am Jun 17, 2011 3:24am
Quoting infinitus
In Denmark they do not tax you for spread betting?

same in the uk
  • #464,894
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:24am Jun 17, 2011 3:24am
Morning T@rantula

My view the same as we talked yesterday This point must touch "will change my view if daily close under my target i told u yesterday.
I will b wait this 1h close to reread my chart

about this zone of fighting ,here it's wt i c
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...86#post4700786
  • #464,895
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:25am Jun 17, 2011 3:25am
Quoting jaylovin
same in the uk
I live at the wrong place obviously :-)

What is the reason for not taxing it?
  • #464,896
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:26am Jun 17, 2011 3:26am
Quoting fxjawn
totally i needed a better pathetic feathered look

time for a face lift brother...still a prick though, surely...
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  • #464,897
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:26am Jun 17, 2011 3:26am
Morning/evening all,

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I'll be taking a small long here on E/U. Seems to me we need to move up a bit before selling starts again.
  • #464,898
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:27am Jun 17, 2011 3:27am
Quoting infinitus
In Denmark they do not tax you for spread betting?
Thats why I have UK spreadbet firms open. Long story but I have property in London.

Not in Denmark live in France but I am a Dane.

Denmark nitemare place Tax you on everything along with Norway Sweden as well. Not good
rat
  • #464,899
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:27am Jun 17, 2011 3:27am
Quoting sisse
Sorry if I disappoint you mate but is better not to create false expectation. You should go back to your job.

Don't know your capital but if you like trading keep trading as much as you can while you have a job, maybe if you are still in the game in 3 or 4 years and you have consistently build your account you may evaluate if its an option to trade for a living but in 8 months as retail and in Forex with a manual/subjective trading plan ...no way mate its almost impossible...

Obviously if you have lots of money (or other sources off income) to...
totally agree with sisse.

Too many people are lured into trading forex to get rich, easy income they can get while wearing pyjamas at home, staring at the screen and printing dollars.....

Yes my main business is forex, I make a few thousands per month in average, but that won't be enough to pay my inflated expenses. And I've been trading in futures, stocks, options, indices, forex for more than 4 years, lost A LOT on my first year and consistent income starting on my third.

I stick to my other main job that I hate just for the money. Trust me.
trading is my zen
  • #464,900
  • Jun 17, 2011 3:29am Jun 17, 2011 3:29am
The UK (to my knowledge) has no capital gains tax. You only pay what is called stamp tax on e.g. shares that you purchase in the meaning of "owning" not betting on up or down of them. Your are not allowed to calc your losses against your wins so you don't get taxed. In Germany e.g. you got that tax but are also allowed to offset your losses.
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