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  • #349,441
  • Dec 20, 2010 9:47pm Dec 20, 2010 9:47pm
Quoting KillerWhale
Thanks Gator, I really appreciate it.

Shamu
last post showed the candles reaction to predictive levels. so you got a bull in there somewhere... best to get a pullback first.
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  • #349,442
  • Dec 20, 2010 9:58pm Dec 20, 2010 9:58pm
Quoting gatorinla
last post showed the candles reaction to predictive levels. so you got a bull in there somewhere... best to get a pullback first.
That's what I'm waiting for.

Made lots of profit with CAD this year, too bad there is not a really good forum for it.
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  • #349,443
  • Dec 20, 2010 9:58pm Dec 20, 2010 9:58pm
Quoting iflyjetzzz
PMFJI, I'll try answering those questions from a fundamentals point of view.



A very important metric when talking sovereign debt is the debt to gdp ratio. Here's a link to 2009 debt to GDP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_public_debt

Note that most Eurozone (EZ) countries have a higher debt to GDP ratio than the US. So it will be harder for the EZ to dig themselves out of out of debt.



Complex question. Both have unique advantages and problems.

The one big difference between the USD and EUR is that...
if you add in future debt of a aging population comparable to europe and japan.. the u.s. is not in great shape... just better then the other 2. add in some interest w/o the ability to pay off current debt or even keep up with the interest and this is a bad situation.
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  • #349,444
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:08pm Dec 20, 2010 10:08pm
Quoting iflyjetzzz
PMFJI, I'll try answering those questions from a fundamentals point of view.



A very important metric when talking sovereign debt is the debt to gdp ratio. Here's a link to 2009 debt to GDP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_public_debt

Note that most Eurozone (EZ) countries have a higher debt to GDP ratio than the US. So it will be harder for the EZ to dig themselves out of out of debt.



Complex question. Both have unique advantages and problems.

The one big difference between the USD and...

good.. and thank you for your time to explain your point..

here, online, realtime debt calculator...

USA.. total: http://usdebtclock.org/index.html
and
WORLD.. total.. http://usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

if you mouse over, you'll see the source of the feed [data]

still the % of the GDP ratio is not the only one.. there are plenty more to count on..

production, economy shape, debt /citizen, debt /taxpayer... ect,,,,
  • #349,445
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:08pm Dec 20, 2010 10:08pm
scalp s gbp 5550.. tp 1/2 5503.... hard sl 5567 but will close if need be earlier. may close the rest at 5481 or hold. gartly
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  • #349,446
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:18pm Dec 20, 2010 10:18pm
Quoting gatorinla
if you add in future debt of a aging population comparable to europe and japan.. the u.s. is not in great shape... just better then the other 2. add in some interest w/o the ability to pay off current debt or even keep up with the interest and this is a bad situation.
some questions here:

 

  1. can you list at least 3 TV US manufacturers? As we know the first [in the world was RSA]

  1. How US Gross Debt to GDP: 143% sound to you?

  1. How 55.5 Tln USd total US Debt sound ?

  1. or.total debt /per family = $680.344; or total debt /citizen = $178.333


or how may Textiles industries are operating in NEW YORK state ?

my POINT.. EUR/USD is denominated in USD.. as I can understand the temporary spikes in CHF, but USA is not in better shape.. as Trichet said.. DONT bet against EUR.. from fundamental point, EUR economy is in better shape then US

cheers..

  • #349,447
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:20pm Dec 20, 2010 10:20pm
Quoting Piters
so,
what is the difference between EUR debt and US debt?
what is the difference in fundamentals between those 2 economies ?
and
what is the difference between the spike down and spike UP ??
WHY do you thing that EUR is going big time DOWN ???

that's very dangerous to expect something from the market.. means you are biased even before you start trading ??

can you elaborate ?
just my 2ct. and very basic economic knowledge. the eu is 10 years old, the us >230 years, and the eu has to buy its own debt after these 10 yrs. we don't share culture, we don't know much about one another, heck, we don't like each other... we weren't asked to board a Mayflower.
  • #349,448
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:23pm Dec 20, 2010 10:23pm
Buy Eu tp 1.3190
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  • #349,449
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:24pm Dec 20, 2010 10:24pm
finding support at 38.2 of the initial pop
Don't have an ego. Always question yourself and your ability.
  • #349,450
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:28pm Dec 20, 2010 10:28pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
just my 2ct. and very basic economic knowledge. the eu is 10 years old, the us >230 years, and the eu has to buy its own debt after these 10 yrs. we don't share culture, we don't know much about one another, heck, we don't like each other... we weren't asked to board a Mayflower.
lol..
1. go back and grab some history books,and try to find How OLd is EUR economy, and how US economy started... lol
2. then, go and read some history on money markets, who rule, manage and own them.
3. then, go and learn the purpose of the central banks, how they started, FED's and BIS...

====

and get back to me after holidays... OK

P.s.. dont give me that S*** about who is in love with, as you are showing how much you are under media influence.. Money, business does not recognize nationality, race, or gender.. only INTEREST !!
  • #349,451
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:31pm Dec 20, 2010 10:31pm
Quoting Piters
lol..
1. go back and grab some history books,and try to find...
you just made me laugh. do never dare to judge my person, i just gave you public sentiment in germany. this is what media feeds the german public with. they make the german public actually hate the greek, irish and any other of the piigs for taking our money. very strongly reminds me of something not so long ago.
and don't try to tell me what i should read up about. *lol*

and, to be honest, YOU should do your homework and read about german economy much more. i just say *tick tock*

now, go away, i don't like your derogatory sentiment.
  • #349,452
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:32pm Dec 20, 2010 10:32pm
Quoting Piters
some questions here:

 

  1. can you list at least 3 TV US manufacturers? As we know the first [in the world was RSA]

  1. How US Gross Debt to GDP: 143% sound to you?

  1. How 55.5 Tln USd total US Debt sound ?

[list][*]or.total debt /per family...

the chart says it all. if you go down a list the u.s. dont make a lot of stuff anymore. televisions or buggy whips either. but whats that got to do with currency... anything is only worth its present value. the demand at a given moment decides what direction we move. not you me or whatever. in this foot race you don't have to outrun the lion. just be faster then the next guy. atm the ez is limping. the lions know this and smell blood. banking is in the shitter and no commodities. all that is left is manufacturing and tourism. both would benefit with a cheaper euro. dont forget that clock you post has a bunch of welfare state defense money in it for Europe and japan
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  • #349,453
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:39pm Dec 20, 2010 10:39pm
Quoting gatorinla
the chart says it all. if you go down a list the u.s. dont make a lot of stuff anymore. televisions or buggy whips either....
i recently read a statement where this was negated for the simple reason that we export more into ez itself than outside. i don't know if can find that one again, or any data undermining this.
  • #349,454
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:41pm Dec 20, 2010 10:41pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
you just made me laugh. do never dare to judge my person, i just gave you public sentiment in germany. this is what media feeds the german public with. they make the german public actually hate the greek, irish and any other of the piigs for taking our money. very strongly reminds me of something not so long ago.
and don't try to tell me what i should read up about. *lol*

and, to be honest, YOU should do your homework and read about german economy much more. i just say *tick tock*

now, go away, i don't like your derogatory sentiment.
you dont have to prove your age.. just 2 clicks..

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  • #349,455
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:45pm Dec 20, 2010 10:45pm
am i the only one buying here?
Don't have an ego. Always question yourself and your ability.
  • #349,456
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:46pm Dec 20, 2010 10:46pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
i recently read a statement where this was negated for the simple reason that we export more into ez itself than outside. i don't know if can find that one again, or any data undermining this.
well the u.s. contrary to what others think manufacture 85% of what it uses. so we only export 15%.. last quarters cheaper u.s. and via to the usd the c. won im sure products are creeping in the ez economy. and if they are gonna buy bonds im sure they want a place at the table.
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  • #349,457
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:51pm Dec 20, 2010 10:51pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
i recently read a statement where this was negated for the simple reason that we export more into ez itself than outside. i don't know if can find that one again, or any data undermining this.
i was gonna close these 2.. but i will just keep sl at 92
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  • #349,458
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:53pm Dec 20, 2010 10:53pm
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  • #349,459
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:54pm Dec 20, 2010 10:54pm
Quoting Piters
you dont have to prove your age.. just 2 clicks..

http://www.forexfactory.com/profile....ignore&u=20122
no, that's not the right thing to do.

in the past, i have said more than once, that eg german unemployment numbers are not the real numbers, because the published statistics have been tweaked beyond recognition. so far, so good, but market of course reacts to what is published. the underlying problem remains the same. less and less people actually work in germany. we have slightly more than 80 million inhabitants, but only about 28 million people working... think about that. how long can those people keep the country afloat?

the next thing is, they are doing everything to seal the contracts in favor of a european government before the next election. they know the results beforehand if people became aware of their intentions. and more and more do. there is no secret source for these things, they are just not published on the frontpages.

another thing is, what media tells the ordinary people about why greece, ireland and so on need help. they are very keen on creating envy, and they succeed among the working people. why should they work until 67, when a greek can retire at ~50-55?

we had that situation before, didn't we? do not forget that germans killed 6 million people, just because they were told that those were bad. nobody ever saw it... they were just told.
  • #349,460
  • Dec 20, 2010 10:57pm Dec 20, 2010 10:57pm
Quoting Magix
10 Hrs ago, price entered into a 30 pip channel that has for the bulk of them hours traded inside of 17 pips....giver take....

If you were the master of market nuttery, you still wouldn't be trading this shit and in all certainty, nobody knows what the next 10 hrs will hold.

I took most of my market leave on Friday but traded for a few sheckles last night....

Beautiful ... really ... nicely siad so ...

And these metaphores ...

market nuttery ...

trade for a few shekels ...

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