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  • #338,181
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:42pm Dec 2, 2010 8:42pm
Quoting moonchild
Please check your facts. For one thing, the US is a net food importer. You do not produce enough food for your own country. Water is a major problem in much of the western US.

These are facts that I am sure of but I suspect that much of the rest of your information is equally flawed.
LoL, sorry but please check your facts and listen to what I am saying and what you are saying.

We import oil? yes, We import food? yes ... this isn't a discussion or topic on rather we import it or not.

We have it, & we have the land, and we have the reserves for water.

Strategically think about it, if a 'supply' and 'demand' is high on goods/commodites, would you rather use your own? or use a 'currency' with deflation of 10% per 10 years to pay for commodities?

Importing has nothing to do with supply.

we have a lot of oil, farmland, water. With those 3, we are good.

If we wanted to/needed it, food production would be ramped up and rationed accordingly {U.S. also waste the most access food I think} and we would be good to go.
  • #338,182
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:44pm Dec 2, 2010 8:44pm
Quoting moonchild
Please check your facts. For one thing, the US is a net food importer. You do not produce enough food for your own country. Water is a major problem in much of the western US.

These are facts that I am sure of but I suspect that much of the rest of your information is equally flawed.
source?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #338,183
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:48pm Dec 2, 2010 8:48pm
hi gatonirela

r we going long today?
  • #338,184
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:48pm Dec 2, 2010 8:48pm
Quoting attila
What's funny about this is that everybody is blaming the man for this, but nobody is looking into solar activity cycles.
What a hoax..
in forex as in life. you have to ask yourself. what if you are wrong?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #338,185
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:49pm Dec 2, 2010 8:49pm
Quoting gatorinla
source?
I looked up the UN statistics as part of some research I was doing on nutrition and health issues worldwide with emphasis, actually, on third world contries.
  • #338,186
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:49pm Dec 2, 2010 8:49pm
Quoting freshtrader2
hi gatonirela

r we going long today?
natm
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #338,187
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:52pm Dec 2, 2010 8:52pm
Quoting gatorinla
natm

cheers
  • #338,188
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:52pm Dec 2, 2010 8:52pm
I should perhaps explain that it was part of a USAID project that I worked for and did research in 11 countries, including the US on maternal and infant health and nutrition.

This resulted in the research being presented at an international meeting and being published.
  • #338,189
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:55pm Dec 2, 2010 8:55pm
Quoting moonchild
I should perhaps explain that it was part of a USAID project that I worked for and did research in 11 countries, including the US on maternal and infant health and nutrition.

This resulted in the research being presented at an international meeting and being published.
Yes, but importing has nothing to do with supply. You can have your kitchen full of food and go 'import' as much as you want from the grocery store to insure your stock of food is good-to-go!
  • #338,190
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:58pm Dec 2, 2010 8:58pm
Quoting moonchild
I looked up the UN statistics as part of some research I was doing on nutrition and health issues worldwide with emphasis, actually, on third world contries.
and how was it listed? as in usd amount or ton-age? imported wines and cheeses do cost more. but as for as the u.s. feeding itself, its totally wrong. as for as water goes we have more then enough with the great lakes and numerous others barely tapped such as the Mississippi. we do have a problem in the west, but the east is full of land suitable to feed the u.s. then some. most of the western states with water problems grow non grain food.. such as fruit grapes. the gulf coast is suitable for this also. they just choose to grow pine trees instead.
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  • #338,191
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:01pm Dec 2, 2010 9:01pm
3179, 73 before more up?
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  • #338,192
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:02pm Dec 2, 2010 9:02pm
As I stated, we have plenty of Water, Food, Oil, Wood, Natural Gas, Gold, Silver, Farmland {developed}, Minerals, Coal, etc.

Not bragging by any means, but i love living in the U.S., I have no complaints, everything in my life that has happened to me has been my own fault.

This country has given me everything, if I don't take advantage of that, that is my fault and only my fault.
  • #338,193
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:03pm Dec 2, 2010 9:03pm
Quoting gatorinla
bears stop and shit on the redline before crossing.
almost
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  • #338,194
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:04pm Dec 2, 2010 9:04pm
Quoting mikej2010
Yes, but importing has nothing to do with supply. You can have your kitchen full of food and go 'import' as much as you want from the grocery store to insure your stock of food is good-to-go!
The US is a NET food importer which means that while it exports food, it imports more, year after year, than it exports.

The statistics on stocks of food in the US do not show increasing stocks year after year, therefore the food being imported, over and above what is exported, is not being stored--it is being consumed.

There is, of course, a difference in the items being imported versus those being exported. Basically the bulk of the exports are grains (cereals) and beans (such as soy) and beef to those countries which will allow it (EZ has refused to buy US meats for decades due to the US using added hormones which is illegal there) while the imports are primarily fruits and vegetables.

Good night all, it is 1am and I am going to try to get about 4 hours sleep now, although I should watch EU which seems to be gradually dropping when I expected it to rise about 100 pips.
  • #338,195
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:06pm Dec 2, 2010 9:06pm
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...stcount=338092
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...stcount=338026

not sure
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  • #338,196
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:20pm Dec 2, 2010 9:20pm
Quoting moonchild
The US is a NET food importer which means that while it exports food, it imports more, year after year, than it exports.

The statistics on stocks of food in the US do not show increasing stocks year after year, therefore the food being imported, over and above what is exported, is not being stored--it is being consumed....
i figure its in dollar amounts. not tonage. fruits are much more expensive. pound for pound. most of the imported fruit is from south of the border. and we get some beef and grain/sugar from the nucks to the north. but overall we can feed ourselves if need be.
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  • #338,197
  • Dec 2, 2010 9:36pm Dec 2, 2010 9:36pm
Quoting gatorinla
i figure its in dollar amounts. not tonage. fruits are much more expensive. pound for pound. most of the imported fruit is from south of the border. and we get some beef and grain/sugar from the nucks to the north. but overall we can feed ourselves if need be.
40% of all food produced in the US is wasted before it is ever consumed.

huge inefficiencies are built into the hyper-carnivorous lifestyle of the population. A primarily vegetarian nation could be fed many times over from the acreage under production.

agribusiness already collects $Billions for NOT farming. we could nix that and use that money to pay down the debt and give the fallow land back to the buffalo. The lobbyists could learn to garden for a living and they'd probably be a lot happier.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #338,198
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:03pm Dec 2, 2010 10:03pm
Quoting mikej2010
Oil {we have a lot of it, there is a 'reason' why we are using the rest of the worlds} 50 years alone worth for whole u.s. in Alaska alone, and then + gulf + Texas, etc.

Natural gas & coal, plenty of it. I mean PLENTY of it

Food .... we have a lot of it ... Like I said before, we ship sooo much food overseas....
From what I read you keep saying "we?" we means who u or me or other citizens? we have all of this fucking resources than why are we losing jobs, why did my father lose his job and his house went on foreclosure? and he was evicted to the streets and I'm paying his bills? why is that huh if we have so much? see where your wrong? its not we as people, its the government or central banks, or one world order. The rest of us are suffering the rest of us are slaves how? do you consider your self a millionaire? this system is made to put everyone in dept? how credit cards, loans... you think just because you have a house that is $1.5 million 95% of it is just mortgage makes you a millionaire? No son by the time you pay it all off it is just like paying 3 times as much as what it was. We dont own shit, the government does not us so please take off the we from your paragraph thank you.
  • #338,199
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:09pm Dec 2, 2010 10:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
some dumb ass put a mofu in the road. who would of thunk?
for the one that asked
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  • #338,200
  • Dec 2, 2010 10:14pm Dec 2, 2010 10:14pm
Long EU G ?
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