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  • #329,601
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:52pm Nov 21, 2010 3:52pm
Quoting mercy seat
In case of you are driving account of more than 500k deposit or even more than one mill ... then you must not be with an ugly online broker ... you can open an account with a real global player who is able to execute your positions directly at any place directly because of their contractual counterpart branches all over the world ...

Moreover you must not sent your money then anymore ... you can keep it on your normal home bank with a normal bank guarantee that your deposit is untouched therefore ...

And ugly mt4 trading ... there is...
Moreover ... with a real trading platform ... you can define other kinds of order types ... for example a limit order depending on if 'Nikkei' will cross EMA 21 today or not ... or whatever you want ...

Or limit order depending on other instruments of occurance ...
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  • #329,602
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:52pm Nov 21, 2010 3:52pm
Quoting bguguen
Because i love the fact im destroying them?? or simply the fact is i havent quite found another broker which provides these
you guys might help

Low spreads on EURUSD 0.5-1.5 ish
Leverage no less than 100:1
Custodial Bank Garunteee
MT4 Trading Platform (need that for my system to run)
STP (that would lower the chance of brokers hating me)

as far as i know... its pretty hard to find one im demanding....
interactive or pfg would suit you great

The custodial bank is taken care of by having a segregated account... account is on your name if they go belly up the receivers cannot touch your account

Not sure on the mt4 though for interactive ... they might it
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  • #329,603
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:55pm Nov 21, 2010 3:55pm
Quoting Freddyfx
Some 23 more minutes till my broker opens for business.

Will short the hell out of this EU..............should be easy pips closing their gap.
Why would you short it?
Trends, breakouts, price action.
  • #329,604
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:56pm Nov 21, 2010 3:56pm
Quoting bguguen
Yea well you dont quite understand... much of my money is being runned by a robot which i hired a programmer to develop for a couple of years now and its been quite profitable since... and it only runs on MT4, thing is i wont know what to do alone... soo if the bank provides me a solution of MT4 id go with them...
Besides though a Bank sounds good with the amount of money i got... i doubt any bank out there would give me the same growth im having right now..
im having 24.66% average growth per month...
thats alot better than a...
the only thing that will give you growth is your trading....who you trade with is not determinant of your success. Its all about your needs. If you are in fact trading with over 500k there is no way you should be a retail broker who is most likely slipping the hell out of your account and giving you terrible fills....

go to a bank if you have money! i know dukascopy has segregated accounts with large banks for holders who have more than 250k....they offer great spreads on that account like .5 pips eu
  • #329,605
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:57pm Nov 21, 2010 3:57pm
Quoting Guitarfx
Not sure if I am missing something but I think he knows that? I think he meant a series of small buy trades until 1.4 is hit? Personnally I would suggest scalping rarely relys on big tf trends anyway so therefore just as safe in any direction i.e regardless of bigger tf trend follow ones system.
Yes, thats what I meant, thanks.

And thanks cloggie and malcolmb14 for your replies.

cloggie: I see an uptrend, yes, but also read your posts lately(and you were always right, it seems) and its nice to see you to confirm my direction. At least thats what I saw in your posts...that we are going to the 1.40 level, and if we hit 1.42, it might go to 1.44.
  • #329,606
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:58pm Nov 21, 2010 3:58pm
Quoting Freddyfx
Some 23 more minutes till my broker opens for business.

Will short the hell out of this EU..............should be easy pips closing their gap.
Same here
  • #329,607
  • Nov 21, 2010 3:58pm Nov 21, 2010 3:58pm
Quoting bguguen
Yea well you dont quite understand... much of my money is being runned by a robot which i hired a programmer to develop for a couple of years now and its been quite profitable since... and it only runs on MT4, thing is i wont know what to do alone... soo if the bank provides me a solution of MT4 id go with them...
Besides though a Bank sounds good with the amount of money i got... i doubt any bank out there would give me the same growth im having right now..
im having 24.66% average growth per month...
thats alot better than a bank deposit interest...
Yes 'blackbox and whitebox' trading is much more easy to be done with a real trade station as well ...
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  • #329,608
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:00pm Nov 21, 2010 4:00pm
Quoting Freddyfx
Some 23 more minutes till my broker opens for business.

Will short the hell out of this EU..............should be easy pips closing their gap.


watch out for continuation or exhaustion
  • #329,609
  • Edited 4:14pm Nov 21, 2010 4:02pm | Edited 4:14pm
Quoting The Fool
How much more resolution do you need?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking26.html
Mr Cowen: "I expect that agreement to be finalised shortly, within the next few weeks,"

link: your source above. Have any other questions?
  • #329,610
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:02pm Nov 21, 2010 4:02pm
Quoting mfoste1
the only thing that will give you growth is your trading....who you trade with is not determinant of your success. Its all about your needs. If you are in fact trading with over 500k there is no way you should be a retail broker who is most likely slipping the hell out of your account and giving you terrible fills....

go to a bank if you have money! i know dukascopy has segregated accounts with large banks for holders who have more than 250k....they offer great spreads on that account like .5 pips eu
Definitely consider that, thanks mfoste! i might be in forex but i sure dunno much when im talking bout institutional stuff or running with a big money, by the way my account is not just my money, its a collective trust fund im running so its only logical when i got 20-30 ish considerably rich clients investing on my fund...

but yea ill consider the bank options...
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #329,611
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:05pm Nov 21, 2010 4:05pm
Nice little gap, I'm in for short scalp on gap closing.
  • #329,612
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:05pm Nov 21, 2010 4:05pm
Quoting mfoste1
uhhh a retail broker isnt going to let you destroy them, they will shut your account down before you "destroy them"

....ummm go to a bank, they will offer you institutional spreads with custodial (segregated) bank account

trading over 500k with over 100:1 lev eh? lol.........
Institutional traders trade 40 mil accounts with 400:1 leverage, there is an advantage to being able to leverage yourself out.
  • #329,613
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:07pm Nov 21, 2010 4:07pm
Quoting skozyuk
Nice little gap, I'm in for short scalp on gap closing.
me as well
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  • #329,614
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:11pm Nov 21, 2010 4:11pm
Quoting Freddyfx
Some 23 more minutes till my broker opens for business.

Will short the hell out of this EU..............should be easy pips closing their gap.
A gap is a tradable pattern, only when everyone has it. As mentioned several times in this thread, in forex there are almost no gaps. Definitely not this time! I am with Oanda, they open earlier than most and i see no gap, none, not a single pip. So what you would see on your chart is the distance the price moved while your broker was not yet opened for business. That is hardly a tradable pattern, just blindly selling/buying. Which perhaps is true for most systems around here anyway, so I guess its ok...
Stubbornly persistent
  • #329,615
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:15pm Nov 21, 2010 4:15pm
5 pip spread on EU with FXDD...haven't seen that in a while with this broker
assume the position...whichever that may be
  • #329,616
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:17pm Nov 21, 2010 4:17pm
Quoting sergiu
A gap is a tradable pattern, only when everyone has it. As mentioned several times in this thread, in forex there are almost no gaps. Definitely not this time! I am with Oanda, they open earlier than most and i see no gap, none, not a single pip. So what you would see on your chart is the distance the price moved while your broker was not yet opened for business. That is hardly a tradable pattern, just blindly selling/buying. Which perhaps is true for most systems around here anyway, so I guess its ok...
Agree, not everyone sees the same chart. However the gaps generally tend to fill in shot order, furthermore I have strong "sell" signal for short term trades that coincides with the gap.

I keep demo MT4 account with several big FX brokers to correlate their chart data. Both have same gap to some extend.
  • #329,617
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:17pm Nov 21, 2010 4:17pm
Quoting sergiu
A gap is a tradable pattern, only when everyone has it. As mentioned several times in this thread, in forex there are almost no gaps. Definitely not this time! I am with Oanda, they open earlier than most and i see no gap, none, not a single pip. So what you would see on your chart is the distance the price moved while your broker was not yet opened for business. That is hardly a tradable pattern, just blindly selling/buying. Which perhaps is true for most systems around here anyway, so I guess its ok...
lol but treu
  • #329,618
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:23pm Nov 21, 2010 4:23pm
Quoting skozyuk
Agree, not everyone sees the same chart. However the gaps generally tend to fill in shot order, furthermore I have strong "sell" signal for short term trades that coincides with the gap.

I keep demo MT4 account with several big FX brokers to correlate their chart data. Both have same gap to some extend.
I agree, if you have a sell signal given by your system, then by all means. Multiple brokers will show the gap if they happened to open at the same time. But like I said, this is not a real gap, unless it is present everywhere. A real gap happens if there was not enough open interest at certain price levels, and the instrument never actually trades at those levels. The price has clearly traded, at the prices everyone here claims to be gap. The gap pattern has a certain logic behind why it is being filled most of the time. Without the real pattern there cant be real logic. Hope this helps someone...
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  • #329,619
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:24pm Nov 21, 2010 4:24pm
EUR/USD Firm On Irish Bailout But May Be Brief - JPM

2134 GMT [Dow Jones] EUR/USD "caught a bid" in early Asia, bolstered by news Ireland will make use of an EU/IMF bailout. Phil Burke, J.P. Morgan senior trader in Sydney, says early gains haven't triggered stop-loss buying; rise has further pushed pair toward top of range. EUR/USD high so far 1.3747, up from early lows around 1.3690. Burke says China tightening moves late Friday will cap upside moves. Also expects USD strength to be retained overall as year-end positioning sees USD shorts squeezed. EUR/USD now 1.3724, AUD/USD 0.9879.

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  • #329,620
  • Nov 21, 2010 4:25pm Nov 21, 2010 4:25pm
Quoting sergiu
I agree, if you have a sell signal given by your system, then by all means. Multiple brokers will show the gap if they happened to open at the same time. But like I said, this is not a real gap, unless it is present everywhere. A real gap happens if there was not enough open interest at certain price levels, and the instrument never actually trades at those levels. The price has clearly traded, at the prices everyone here claims to be gap. The gap pattern has a certain logic behind why it is being filled most of the time. Without the real pattern...

Give it up sergiu, I have tried this for weeks, the retailers here all believe in this myth and will flame down anyone who offers any reason to the contrary.

None of the pros trade this, just a few noobie retailers on the eurusd thread. And they wonder why they lose. They all think that the retail broker is a true reflection of the market and that Goldman, Barclays and UBS all use Oanda.
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