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  • #328,021
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:28pm Nov 17, 2010 11:28pm
Quoting winfast
That is his point. He thinks people are crazy to buy virtual gold. He claims the physical metal is the only viable option.
If we get to that point then lead will be the better option.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #328,022
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:32pm Nov 17, 2010 11:32pm
Quoting longshot_nl
...If the world economy has collapsed and no money is worth anything....
There will always be an economy. Still gotta eat & most don't grow their own food.
  • #328,023
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:32pm Nov 17, 2010 11:32pm
Quoting Mr Hatch

looks fine to me
uhhh woof....

shes in bad shape bro compared to what she used to look like 6 years ago

i just saw her on some late night talk show and she looked absolutely terrible....

she needs to stop eating and wearing so much makeup....she gained like 60 freaking pounds
  • #328,024
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:33pm Nov 17, 2010 11:33pm
Quoting winfast
Without QE from all parts of the Western World, there will be no liquidity. It's a heck of a dilemma. QE and major inflation. No QE and total collapse. There really is no in between. Our Govts (Fed State and Local) spend too much money and to shut off the spigot right now would send us into something that would make the Great Depression look like a picnic in the park.

Unless the FED monetizes the debt, there is not enough savings in the world to buy it all
im not talking about the u.s. ...ez banks are full of cash since the stress test.. they pulled cash out the system to do this. all ez governments have tightened. pulling more cash out the system. taxes were raised. now we got Ireland ect. who will pull more cash out the system. the amount Ireland owes compared to gdp would = the u.s. owing 700 trillion usd. where will the cash come to stock pile shelves and other investment? euros will be valuable till there not. tick tock
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #328,025
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:34pm Nov 17, 2010 11:34pm
Quoting The Fool
If we get to that point then lead will be the better option.
He says the virtual gold is not backed by physical metal. --Many of the ETFs are only backed by derivatives contracts and we all know what can happen with that crap.

We did hit something like that in 2008 and it nearly wiped out the world trying to fix it temporarily. Not in gold, but in credit default swaps. The same thing can happen in other areas and the runs on the debt of sovereign nations are stimulated by the holders of derivatives contracts. So far, we have seen them attack Greece, Spain Portugal and now Ireland. Next it will likley be the US and/or the debt of the individual US states. Without QE, you can count on it.
  • #328,026
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:36pm Nov 17, 2010 11:36pm
Quoting mfoste1
uhhh woof....

shes in bad shape bro compared to what she used to look like 6 years ago

i just saw her on some late night talk show and she looked absolutely terrible....

she needs to stop eating and wearing so much makeup....she gained like 60 freaking pounds
didn't she drop 2 children? i never was of the opinion that she was the one to immediately start working out after a big pizza... she's got something very dirty about her, and that shows now...

btw: did you fix your computer?
  • #328,027
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:36pm Nov 17, 2010 11:36pm
Quoting TradeWell
There will always be an economy. Still gotta eat & most don't grow their own food.
I disagree.
In this age everything can be automated.
Even the production and distribution of food.
It doesn't happen quick because money corrupts, Value = Scarcity.
  • #328,028
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:40pm Nov 17, 2010 11:40pm
Quoting longshot_nl
I disagree.
In this age everything can be automated.
Even the production and distribution of food.
It doesn't happen quick because money corrupts, Value = Scarcity.
dont think we in the u.s. are gonna just give it away.. we want your gold and china's u.s. bonds back.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #328,029
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:41pm Nov 17, 2010 11:41pm
covered all positions....will reenter
  • #328,030
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:43pm Nov 17, 2010 11:43pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
didn't she drop 2 children? i never was of the opinion that she was the one to immediately start working out after a big pizza... she's got something very dirty about her, and that shows now...

btw: did you fix your computer?

i ran a bunch of virus scans and all seems ok....but im still going to reinstall windows and harden it better....
  • #328,031
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:44pm Nov 17, 2010 11:44pm
Quoting gatorinla
im not talking about the u.s. ...ez banks are full of cash since the stress test.. they pulled cash out the system to do this. all ez governments have tightened. pulling more cash out the system. taxes were raised. now we got Ireland ect. who will pull more cash out the system. the amount Ireland owes compared to gdp would = the u.s. owing 700 trillion usd. where will the cash come to stock pile shelves and other investment? euros will be valuable till there not. tick tock
Not really. The US banks are temporarily benefiting from the change in the accounting rules since the 2008 crises. They are carrying assets on their books at cost instead of at current value. If they had to observe the same accounting rules today that they had to observe before the 2008 debacle, they would be seen to be in terrible shape.

Its just a slight of hand accounting trick. None of this is good for the US dollar in the end.
  • #328,032
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:45pm Nov 17, 2010 11:45pm
Quoting mfoste1
i ran a bunch of virus scans and all seems ok....but im still going to reinstall windows and harden it better....


that is a "get rich quick"-book, if you wrote it ;-)
  • #328,033
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:45pm Nov 17, 2010 11:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
dont think we in the u.s. are gonna just give it away.. we want your gold and china's u.s. bonds back.
Even if it means printing endless amounts of money.
The monetary system is on a suiside path if you ask me.
  • #328,034
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:46pm Nov 17, 2010 11:46pm
Somethings going to give here soon.Been knocking on 90/92 so many times now.
  • #328,035
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:47pm Nov 17, 2010 11:47pm
Quoting longshot_nl
I disagree....
I don't understand which part you disagree with:

1) There will always be an economy.
2) Still gotta eat.
3) Most don't grow their own food.
  • #328,036
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:51pm Nov 17, 2010 11:51pm
Quoting TradeWell
I don't understand which part you disagree with:

1) There will always be an economy.
2) Still gotta eat.
3) Most don't grow their own food.

mmm virtual chicken wings....
  • #328,037
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:52pm Nov 17, 2010 11:52pm
Quoting TradeWell
I don't understand which part you disagree with:

1) There will always be an economy.
2) Still gotta eat.
3) Most don't grow their own food.
I hope the monetary system will collapse and a resource based economy will emerge.
The monetary system will keep failing whatever polliticians decide to do.
Money corrupts, even the system it is based upon.
  • #328,038
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:53pm Nov 17, 2010 11:53pm
Quoting siboy
Somethings going to give here soon.Been knocking on 90/92 so many times now.
The Euro closed at 135'27. in Europe. They need to pull it back before the European open. Odds are, any rally through 136 before a pullback will likely be a bull trap
  • #328,039
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:54pm Nov 17, 2010 11:54pm
Does anyone know what is a History Sheeter? .......................... ak is one.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #328,040
  • Nov 17, 2010 11:54pm Nov 17, 2010 11:54pm
Quoting longshot_nl
I hope the monetary system will collapse and a resource based economy will emerge.
The monetary system will keep failing whatever polliticians decide to do.
Money corrupts, even the system it is based upon.

i dont....we gotta live in this.
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