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  • #325,561
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:44pm Nov 14, 2010 12:44pm
Quoting KillerWhale
Not really surprised .... adventurous people!!!!
Part Dutch here. My great great great ancestors were Dutch. Immigrated to the US long before the US was the US.
  • #325,562
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:45pm Nov 14, 2010 12:45pm
just opened a OANDA practice account to watch the fun...but those spreads(10) are impossible to trade!

i'll stick to the London and NY sessions for now.
  • #325,563
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:46pm Nov 14, 2010 12:46pm
Quoting cloggie

The high sofar is still only 3713, price now 3709

Price broke through, now at 3723.

So far we have seen 50 pips down and 70 up on feeds that are not available to retailers, you guys do miss out.

It shows 2 things, one start looking at a different feed and two, Welly and SY do not play fair, they know they are the only counterparty out there of any decent size and they use/abuse it to their heart's content.
  • #325,564
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:49pm Nov 14, 2010 12:49pm
Quoting cloggie
Price broke through, now at 3723.

So far we have seen 50 pips down and 70 up on feeds that are not available to retailers, you guys do miss out.

It shows 2 things, one start looking at a different feed and two, Welly and SY do not play fair, they know they are the only counterparty out there of any decent size and they use/abuse it to their heart's content.
Oanda still sells them euros for 1.37151.
  • #325,565
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:50pm Nov 14, 2010 12:50pm
Quoting cloggie
Price broke through, now at 3723.

So far we have seen 50 pips down and 70 up on feeds that are not available to retailers, you guys do miss out.

It shows 2 things, one start looking at a different feed and two, Welly and SY do not play fair, they know they are the only counterparty out there of any decent size and they use/abuse it to their heart's content.
yep, point taken.
3723 is such a nice entry...
  • #325,566
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:50pm Nov 14, 2010 12:50pm
Quoting zaphy
Oanda still sells them euros for 1.37151.
you need to wait 10more minutes.
  • #325,567
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:51pm Nov 14, 2010 12:51pm
Quoting zaphy
Oanda still sells them euros for 1.37151.

Not all price feeds are equal, and I am pretty sure that Oanda being one of the few retailers with an early feed will not show the price entirely thruthfully. But then again, who knows nowadays with these brokers?
  • #325,568
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:52pm Nov 14, 2010 12:52pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
you need to wait 10more minutes.
You mean to actually execute a trade? Must be too late...I could have just tried it instead of looking at prices going up and down !
  • #325,569
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:53pm Nov 14, 2010 12:53pm
Quoting zaphy
You mean to actually execute a trade? Must be too late...I could have just tried it instead of looking at prices going up and down !
no, before spreads normalize to .9-1.1 pip
  • #325,570
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:54pm Nov 14, 2010 12:54pm
Quoting cloggie
Price broke through, now at 3723.

So far we have seen 50 pips down and 70 up on feeds that are not available to retailers, you guys do miss out.

It shows 2 things, one start looking at a different feed and two, Welly and SY do not play fair, they know they are the only counterparty out there of any decent size and they use/abuse it to their heart's content.
Thats why every big player has an office over there...
Sweeping stops @ 50 points on each side and lean back.

Let's all leave Holland and go there
  • #325,571
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:55pm Nov 14, 2010 12:55pm
Quoting MitchWorse
Thats why every big player has an office over there...
Sweeping stops @ 50 points on each side and lean back.

You got it, I just wanted to do this as a play by play to effectively take away any argument from the "gap" traders out there and show them that there is no gap, just Welly running stops.

For those wanting to trade the Sunday evening setup that retailers offer you, you must take into account what Welly did during their open, so far they have swung it 70 pips without you guys even knowing about it.
  • #325,572
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:56pm Nov 14, 2010 12:56pm
Quoting Eren10
outsite the usa it is billion

almost 7 % deficit of the GDP. How much is the total deficit in EU actually compared with total GDP.
Dude, billion is what Senators spend in 1 month in white house buffet.

Get your numbers straightening out..
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  • #325,573
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:57pm Nov 14, 2010 12:57pm
Quoting fontu
Hi driver , you may asking this indicator , can see the curreny chart ( any pair though with or without may at a time) & levels can add manually of your interest any number .
and just drag & drop any indicator that open separate window on to this same window. picture here rsi & momentum asdded to eu with lines .
thanks ,'fontu

Thanks Fontu .
The best thing that can happen to you is to find out where you're wrong.
  • #325,574
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:57pm Nov 14, 2010 12:57pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Dude, billion is what Senators spend in 1 month in white house buffet.

Get your numbers straightening out..

Dude, don't pick on one post out of context, we have had the discussion with appropriate proof and links and it has long been resolved. It was all down to finesse within the English language and a history of about 1,000 years.

Keep up in the back.
  • #325,575
  • Nov 14, 2010 12:58pm Nov 14, 2010 12:58pm
Quoting cloggie
Not all price feeds are equal, and I am pretty sure that Oanda being one of the few retailers with an early feed will not show the price entirely thruthfully. But then again, who knows nowadays with these brokers?
Have you ever been on the other side, meaning working for market makers, brokers? I am very curious of their algorithms for hedging, collecting stops and so on. In my experience, with FXCM once you get close (within 0.5pips) to a stop loss it will be hit, even if no other provider (accessible to me does). But I recently attended a seminar about time series analysis in the frequency domain and with wavelets...and it occurred to me that those techniques could well be used against brokers to see if there is any periodical 'misbehaviour'.
  • #325,576
  • Nov 14, 2010 1:01pm Nov 14, 2010 1:01pm
hi cloggie

so Saturdays are tradeable... if i understand u??

just curious
  • #325,577
  • Nov 14, 2010 1:01pm Nov 14, 2010 1:01pm
Quoting zaphy
Have you ever been on the other side, meaning working for market makers, brokers? I am very curious of their algorithms for hedging, collecting stops and so on. In my experience, with FXCM once you get close (within 0.5pips) to a stop loss it will be hit, even if no other provider (accessible to me does). But I recently attended a seminar about time series analysis in the frequency domain and with wavelets...and it occurred to me that those techniques could well be used against brokers to see if there is any periodical 'misbehaviour'.

I never have and never will work for MM's.

Sites like FF could really do a proper public service by altering their market data screen slightly to identify what broker and where had a anomaly in their price feed compared to Interbank and among each other, both on real and demo feeds.
  • #325,578
  • Nov 14, 2010 1:03pm Nov 14, 2010 1:03pm
Quoting Vladimir1987
hi cloggie

so Saturdays are tradeable... if i understand u??

just curious

Only for the desperate and for those companies that run out of cash over the weekend.
  • #325,579
  • Nov 14, 2010 1:05pm Nov 14, 2010 1:05pm
Quoting cloggie
I have never and never will work for MM's.

Sites like FF could really do a proper public service by altering their market data screen to identify what broker and where had a anomaly in their price feed, both on real and demo feeds.
It won't be too difficult to see the difference (I have a 3 retail feeds), but when do you call it an anomaly is a tough one...depends on their hedging policies, and risk control.
  • #325,580
  • Nov 14, 2010 1:05pm Nov 14, 2010 1:05pm
i have a nice rally base and a begining of a drop but a lot of buying pressure still available 1.34 is still not too far away before we move up on weekly
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