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  • #1,581
  • Nov 2, 2010 4:26pm Nov 2, 2010 4:26pm
Today only change magic number-
Wrongway nr. 777112
setup:
is :MaxMarginToUse 0.1
PofitPc:0.25 !!!

10. 25 .2010 has been a good research results
best regards
vienna
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  • #1,582
  • Nov 2, 2010 5:05pm Nov 2, 2010 5:05pm
vienna, I think you're having too much fun!
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,583
  • Nov 2, 2010 5:25pm Nov 2, 2010 5:25pm
Quoting MetaCoder
Frazer, the results for 03 looked better than 03a or 03b even before your ProfitPct adjustment.
Yes, it did. However, the PP adjustment might change that if the others can close more quickly and avoid getting too many open trades. That's what has been causing them to lag behind.
Frazer
  • #1,584
  • Nov 2, 2010 5:27pm Nov 2, 2010 5:27pm
Party on then.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,585
  • Nov 2, 2010 6:05pm Nov 2, 2010 6:05pm
Quoting vienna
hello ,MC and frazerd,

pure chance has led me to this setting-
as I have showed many times do I combine the ap-
the picture you see what I use -
here the setting:

First ea : Phantom_AddSix_02 Setup 01-025-
is :MaxMarginToUse 0.1
PofitPc:0.25 !!!
Mgixnumber:777112

Second ea: Phantom_AddSix_02 Setup 01-025
MaxMarginToUse 0.1
PofitPc:0.5 !!
Mgixnumber:777111

both turn on simultaneously ea
ea by each working alone -
but ea always includes all positions in common-
best you try it yourself -
best regards
vienna
That is cool, Vienna.

I have a question for MC. I would have thought that because close-all is based on account equity and not magic number, the EA with ProfitPct 0.25 would close only it's own magic number trades when account equity reached 25% above Last Flat Equity. Since the account equity is the total of combined trades from both EAs, the trades it closes may not be profitable without the trades with the other magic number, which it cannot close.

By the same token, the EA with 0.5 PP would only be able to close when it's own magic number trades produce 50% profit and that may never happen unless it happens during the short time between a 25% close-all and when the 0.25 EA places trades again.

That little spiel even has me confused. I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. I guess the question is, do the EAs keep track of Equity and Last Flat Equity by magic number? I would not have thought that possible, but I see that both of Vienna's magic numbers have closed.??
Frazer
  • #1,586
  • Nov 2, 2010 6:17pm Nov 2, 2010 6:17pm
Quoting pipssqueak
...To all the winge-ing greedy B$Ł%&*D's out there who don't want to do anything except have life offered on a plate with no input, I think you need to get a life and start researching a few simple answers for yourselves. LEARN TO TYPE "GOOGLE" YOU CAN GET A LOT OF ANSWERS FOR YOURSELVES...
Awesome post mate!
  • #1,587
  • Nov 2, 2010 6:54pm Nov 2, 2010 6:54pm
http://bobthoughts.net/Phantom_AddSix_03b_TADAWUL.htm

http://bobthoughts.net/Phantom_AddSix_01a.htm

http://bobthoughts.net/Phantom_AddSix_03b_IBFX.htm
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,588
  • Nov 2, 2010 7:06pm Nov 2, 2010 7:06pm
Frazerd
For $3000 standard account size 50:1 with Phantom -addsix-02a,do you think these setting are ok or too conservative?
MMTU=0.3
Lot=0.1
PP=0.5
regards
Fred
  • #1,589
  • Nov 2, 2010 7:40pm Nov 2, 2010 7:40pm
After testing many of the Phantom Ea's I would agree that .25 PP is a good setting especialy on a 3k acct.. Less trades. Think about it, you only need 4 equity pops per week to make 1%. Already had 4 on 03b in 2 days. I would gladly take 1% per week.
  • #1,590
  • Nov 2, 2010 8:12pm Nov 2, 2010 8:12pm
Quoting fredgold3434
Frazerd
For $3000 standard account size 50:1 with Phantom -addsix-02a,do you think these setting are ok or too conservative?
MMTU=0.3
Lot=0.1
PP=0.5
regards
Fred
I'm using MMTU 0.4 and PP 0.25 on the same size and same leverage account.

The Lot setting has no function in these EAs. As I understand it, it is just a setting left over from some of MC's other work. In his last couple of EAs he has eliminated that setting.
Frazer
  • #1,591
  • Nov 2, 2010 8:35pm Nov 2, 2010 8:35pm
one question on testing. is reducing the PP to 0.25% from 1 going to result in better DD, margin situations ? my observation is whenever we saw huge DD, it was never in profit side, it keeps adding same pair every hour for 10-15 hours (mostly during asia session) thus resulting in a situation where only one pair is dominating the basket. then it takes a while for other pairs to come to basket and the dominant pair slowly moving in our direction, then we get into profit

if reducing PP doesnt solve Margin, DD issue why sacrifice it ? or reducing PP will result in more pops ? in one week with 1% PP we have 6 pops, then with 0.25% PP we will have more than 24 pops ?

btw, i am also fan of smaller profits and lesser open trades
  • #1,592
  • Nov 2, 2010 9:00pm Nov 2, 2010 9:00pm
Quoting roundrock

if reducing PP doesnt solve Margin, DD issue why sacrifice it ? or reducing PP will result in more pops ? in one week with 1% PP we have 6 pops, then with 0.25% PP we will have more than 24 pops ?

btw, i am also fan of smaller profits and lesser open trades
Keep in mind that when reducing the PP from 1% to 0.25%, you are in effect increasing the spread needed to trade by x4 just to get to the equivalent of 1% PP. Although larger spread spend is a minor issue in the long run.

Reducing MMTU is one way to solve the large DD issue as MetaCoder has pointed out a couple of times already.

Finding the optimum MMTU & PP settings for your own Account size and Leverage are key - just like frazerd has posted through his research.
  • #1,593
  • Nov 2, 2010 11:34pm Nov 2, 2010 11:34pm
03a stopped opening trades while 03b continues. Is this normal for the 03a?

03a MMTU is 0.3, PP 0.5
03b MMTU is 0.2, PP 0.5

There are no error messages in the experts and journal tab.
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  • #1,594
  • Nov 2, 2010 11:45pm Nov 2, 2010 11:45pm
Quoting the-game
Keep in mind that when reducing the PP from 1% to 0.25%, you are in effect increasing the spread needed to trade by x4 just to get to the equivalent of 1% PP. Although larger spread spend is a minor issue in the long run.

Reducing MMTU is one way to solve the large DD issue as MetaCoder has pointed out a couple of times already.

Finding the optimum MMTU & PP settings for your own Account size and Leverage are key - just like frazerd has posted through his research.
I think it's good to target for 0.25% if there's only one or few open trades. But if there are many several trades and in huge DD, once the direction of the prices move towards our favor, it will be very fast to reach 1%, 2% or even more.

just my 2 cents.
  • #1,595
  • Nov 3, 2010 2:08am Nov 3, 2010 2:08am
Quoting luiboy
I think it's good to target for 0.25% if there's only one or few open trades. But if there are many several trades and in huge DD, once the direction of the prices move towards our favor, it will be very fast to reach 1%, 2% or even more.

just my 2 cents.
i agree. i noticed that. when we are fully loaded and when the market moves in our direction then its likely to hit higher targets. but since we are already in huge DD, caution is the key. dont be greedy, take whatever it gives and get out. how you take the huge DD in your stride is the key to success in this system
  • #1,596
  • Nov 3, 2010 2:44am Nov 3, 2010 2:44am
[Quote = MetaCoder; 4141888] Wien, ich glaube, du bist zu viel Spaß![/ Quote]
yes I have a lot of fun-

but it is also a test -
I'll wait if a setting the account-destroyed
until now there has been no account of the death-

what's my resumé:
I'm flying now for a business to race formula1 -
when I get back I will start with 2 ea the real trade-
I then tested nearly a month all-
almost all tests have shown me with pictures and reports.
I'll tell you then-
best regards
vienna
  • #1,597
  • Nov 3, 2010 5:19am Nov 3, 2010 5:19am
3 ea account

setting:
MaxMarginToUse 0,1
PofitPc: 0,25! all the same-
you see lowest margin is very good-

is various magic number-
best regards
vienna
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  • #1,598
  • Nov 3, 2010 5:54am Nov 3, 2010 5:54am
Quoting luiboy
03a stopped opening trades while 03b continues. Is this normal for the 03a?

03a MMTU is 0.3, PP 0.5
03b MMTU is 0.2, PP 0.5

There are no error messages in the experts and journal tab.
I think I found the answer why.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p=4044253
  • #1,599
  • Nov 3, 2010 8:15am Nov 3, 2010 8:15am
Quoting luiboy
I think I found the answer why.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p=4044253
I don't think that's the answer luiboy. I don't believe that strategy of not opening a trade on a pair unless all previous trades are winners is being used in any of the AddSix EAs. MC can confirm or deny that belief. Maybe we should try it though.

Truthfully, I have lost track of the differences in the AddSix EAs. I will have to go back and research to refresh my own understanding and then try to figure out what makes one work better than the others.

I do know that AddSix_01 is the only one that opens trades on ALL winners of the 6 pairs every hour, as opposed to only opening a trade on the biggest winner. That is why 01 keeps getting into margin call situations.

I also know that the only difference in 03a and 03b is that 03b resets the phantoms every 8 hours.
Frazer
  • #1,600
  • Nov 3, 2010 8:50am Nov 3, 2010 8:50am
I also think there is actually no longer differences.
It is well explained.
We can not and will not recommend here -
everyone should learn to research itself and
Everyone can take demo account and use all the settings from here-
I'm testing now with a demo account:
Phantom_AddSix_02 und 03 yes double!
Leverage: 400:1
Balance : 8600 USD
MaxMargin: 0.01 - !!
ProfitPc: 0.025 !
WHY?
I see ea is working on minimum lot- ea trade 0.01 lot!
so I have a much of time for the tp!
best regards
vienna
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