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  • First Post: Edited Sep 13, 2010 11:50am Aug 24, 2010 12:05pm | Edited Sep 13, 2010 11:50am
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
Before you run the EAs, read my FAQ: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=252690

Read http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=251869
to get an idea of what this kind of strategy is all about.

This strategy intentionally trims the biggest loser and opens an opposite-direction trade on the same pair whenever at least three losing pairs have breached their 24-hour high/low.

The way this is done is quite restrained, such that overtrimming is avoided. We want to do just enough trimming that we allow the same market action that triggered the trimming to take us to profit.

So do not be alarmed when the first actions taken by the EA make your balance shrink. If you are patient, a rise in equity will occur and all trades will be closed for profit.

There are old-school elements to this strategy, such as diversification (14 pairs), cut your losses early (cut the BIGGEST loser when market action makes it a logical decision), and let your winners run (until you come into profit).

Basket_14 was developed before Confirm_14. Basket_14 uses less specific criteria in looking for confirmation. It looks for a total of 3 currency pairs among the 14 to be breaching their 24-hour highs/lows before trimming and reversing a biggest loser.

Attach to only one chart, any symbol, any timeframe. Don't worry about opening other charts. You only need to open ONE.

Version 02 does not have the MinMiniEquity and MinStdEquity settings.

Version 03 uses two seven-pair relative vigor index (RVI) indicators to try to increase the frequency with which we get to profit without trimming and reversing.

Version 04 looks for five samples of RVI main to be above/below zero, cleanly separated across the two groups of seven pairs, to decide which group to buy/sell.

Version 05 has buy/sell logic based on RVI main/signal crosses above/below zero

Settings for Various Leverage Levels
Leave the settings as-is for a 200:1 leverage account.

Set MaxMarginToUse to 2.0 for a 100:1 leverage account and leave ProfitPct at 1.0.

Set MaxMarginToUse to 3.0 and ProfitPct to 0.3 for a 10:1 leverage account. This may seem risky but most of us will want to push risk if we get restricted to 10:1 accounts. Even with this risk level, you shouldn't see Lowest Margin drop much below 200%.

For my 50:1 demo, I am using MaxMarginToUse at 3.0 and ProfitPct at 0.75. So far it's working fine.
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File Type: mq4 Basket14_01.mq4   35 KB | 2,407 downloads | Uploaded Aug 26, 2010 12:50pm
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Open to new approaches.
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  • Aug 24, 2010 7:13pm Aug 24, 2010 7:13pm
  •  juzgood1978
  • | Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Member | 280 Posts
just a question, will the ea close trades with profit?
 
 
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  • Aug 24, 2010 7:45pm Aug 24, 2010 7:45pm
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
Yes, it closes the basket of trades when they have overall profit. Here's a statement.

http://bobthoughts.net/Basket14.htm

Note increasing lot sizes as equity grows.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 24, 2010 8:09pm Aug 24, 2010 8:09pm
  •  reachjj
  • | Joined Dec 2009 | Status: Member | 265 Posts
Quoting MetaCoder
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Yes, it closes the basket of trades when they have overall profit. Here's a statement.

http://bobthoughts.net/Basket14.htm

Note increasing lot sizes as equity grows.
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I think, overall profit/loss is less compare to the Gross Profit and Gross Loss. anyway of reducing the losing trades and may be trailing the profit trades?
 
 
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  • Edited Aug 25, 2010 10:55am Aug 24, 2010 11:34pm | Edited Aug 25, 2010 10:55am
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  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
Quoting reachjj
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I think, overall profit/loss is less compare to the Gross Profit and Gross Loss.
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No sir, they are exactly the same. I don't know what you might be looking at to come to that conclusion.

Quoting reachjj
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...anyway of reducing the losing trades and may be trailing the profit trades?
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Not in this version of the strategy. It is what it is and it is trading as intended.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 25, 2010 12:12am Aug 25, 2010 12:12am
  •  Faaiz Azizi
  • | Joined Apr 2010 | Status: Member | 21 Posts
hi meta coder...

Mind me for asking. where to attach the ea?? i mean which chart and what timeframe? or just attach it the same way as confirm14??

Thank you...
 
 
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  • Aug 25, 2010 8:53am Aug 25, 2010 8:53am
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
More profit taken overnight.

http://bobthoughts.net/Basket14.htm
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 25, 2010 10:45am Aug 25, 2010 10:45am
  •  madscalp
  • Joined Jan 2008 | Status: French Trader | 895 Posts
Quoting Faaiz Azizi
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hi meta coder...

Mind me for asking. where to attach the ea?? i mean which chart and what timeframe? or just attach it the same way as confirm14??

Thank you...
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Please read the first lines of the EA
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 6:00am Aug 26, 2010 6:00am
  •  surfeur
  • | Joined Jan 2008 | Status: Member | 194 Posts
no trades since 3 days... there a problem
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 10:47am Aug 26, 2010 10:47am
  •  Pluto2
  • | Joined Dec 2006 | Status: Member | 415 Posts
There is no problem with the EA. The problem is in your inputs.
The EA is trading for me.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 10:56am Aug 26, 2010 10:56am
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
Quoting surfeur
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no trades since 3 days... there a problem
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See my FAQ.

You probably need to set MinMiniEquity or MinStdEquity lower than their default settings.

Note that I uploaded a version 02 of Basket14. In version 02, the MinMiniEquity and MinStdEquity settings have been removed.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 4:10pm Aug 26, 2010 4:10pm
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
The current state of my Basket 14 demo: it has booked 7% profit in less than a month. It currently sits in a superbly hedged state, all 14 pairs open. The market can do whatever it wants and the account will not suffer. When there is significant change in the market, good actions will be taken. Further profits will come.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 4:20pm Aug 26, 2010 4:20pm
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
Quoting surfeur
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no trades since 3 days... there a problem
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Yes, the problem is that you lack patience and do not understand the strategy.

Just sayin'.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 4:28pm Aug 26, 2010 4:28pm
  •  PurePrice
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Member | 2,584 Posts
Thank you for sharing this great strategy. I am wondeing if I can use this EA with my own manual trading? Would attaching the EA affect my own orders or vice versa? My suspicion is NO and that you have the magic number take care of that, but just want to make sure. thank you for your patience and your time.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 4:38pm Aug 26, 2010 4:38pm
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
I wouldn't be able to answer any issues you might have related to unpredictable results if you choose to mix usage of the EA with your manual trades. But if you believe you understand all the issues, go for it.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 26, 2010 5:53pm Aug 26, 2010 5:53pm
  •  Syracuse
  • | Joined Jul 2009 | Status: Member | 16 Posts
So in your opinion, which one is better? basket or confirm
 
 
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  • Aug 27, 2010 11:30am Aug 27, 2010 11:30am
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
The way Basket 14 makes its cut'n'reverse decisions seems to be more consistent and efficient in producing equity pops.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 27, 2010 3:16pm Aug 27, 2010 3:16pm
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
This was the only of my systems that took profit on an equity pop last night.
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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  • Aug 27, 2010 3:49pm Aug 27, 2010 3:49pm
  •  skyvoice
  • | Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 48 Posts
hello MetaC and others,i opened Basket14_02 26.08 22.00 and i cloce it manual 27.08 18.00 (gmt+2) it was nice +3% profit,looks good reg,,, sky
 
 
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  • Edited 5:08pm Aug 27, 2010 4:48pm | Edited 5:08pm
  •  MetaCoder
  • Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Know-Nothing | 768 Posts
A nice thing is that sometimes we get into profit without any trim'n'reverse actions.

That might seem odd because the two groups of seven pairs represent a perfect synthetic hedge. But across this many pairs, distortions do happen as all pairs can move independently.

So I just uploaded version 03, which uses two seven-pair relative vigor index (RVI) indicators to try to increase the frequency with which we get to profit without trimming and reversing. No guarantee that we won't have to trim and reverse with this approach, but at least we tip the odds a little in that direction.

How it works is: the group of 7 that shows the stronger RVI is the group that we will sell, and we will buy the other.

It shouldn't matter which group we initially buy or sell, as long as we always buy one group and sell the other. However, since there are observable imbalances at times, we might as well attempt to find which side to be on if in fact it could make any difference at all.

The nice thing is -- the cut'n'reverse scheme is stable and has proven time and time again to nudge the basket toward profit, even though it sometimes takes some patience to get some wind in the sails via strong market action. This element alone will get us to profit regardless of which side is bought vs sold. It's just that we want to get our profit faster if possible. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
Open to new approaches.
 
 
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