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  • #1,421
  • Oct 27, 2010 12:13pm Oct 27, 2010 12:13pm
Thanks MC, testing it now.
Seems to be working
Once my balance can get high enough for it to calculate like .14 lots, I'll let u know if it continues to act appropriately
On that note, any idea whether it will be rounding down or up?
For example, if my mmtu setting calculates the lotsize to trade at .09, is it going to round down to .05, or up to .10?
If ea calculates lotsize to trade at .14, is it going to round down to .10 or up to .15?
Thanks for the fix, hope it helps others as well!
  • #1,422
  • Edited 12:44pm Oct 27, 2010 12:24pm | Edited 12:44pm
It'll round down because the 0 in the call DoubleToStr(UseLots/LotStep,0) eliminates the fractional portion, leaving us with a whole number (integer) to multiply times LotStep.

See this is why you guys pay me the big bucks.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,423
  • Oct 27, 2010 12:39pm Oct 27, 2010 12:39pm
MC and others,

1st of all i would like to thank all of you for the efforts and brilliant ideas, testing of this system. i believe that it will have a great success.

I have been a silent viewer of this thread, but i think that now is the time to join you guys and share my results.

I have not tested all the versions to be honest, but currently testing Phantom_AddSix_03b with a little modification. i do have another EA to another chart which will close all the trades when they reach a specific $ amount "since the EA does not close my trades when it reaches the target profit for some reason.".

The Phantom_AddSix_03b have been working for 2 days and i take the profit after 0.5% which is around 150 pips in total.

I have a question: since Phantom_AddSix_03b resets the phantoms every 8 hours, is it really necessary to start the EA on the opening of one of the 3 markets or i can start it onanytime ?
  • #1,424
  • Oct 27, 2010 12:46pm Oct 27, 2010 12:46pm
Perfect, thanks for the clarification
And once we can start making the big bucks with these, more than happy to pay you some big bucks too (of course u'll be making your own big bucks so probably won't need our big bucks anymore
  • #1,425
  • Oct 27, 2010 12:48pm Oct 27, 2010 12:48pm
Three cheers for big bucks all around.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,426
  • Oct 27, 2010 12:51pm Oct 27, 2010 12:51pm
Phantom_Add_Six_02a: 10.000.-$, 200:1, mmtu: 0.5, ProfitPct: 0.5, 0.1 lots, Max FloatingDD: -4.56% (no profit yet)

Phantom_Add_Six_03b: 10.000.-$, 200:1, mmtu: 0.5, ProfitPct: 0.75, 0.1 lots, Max FloatingDD: -6.26% (no profit yet)

Basket14_02: 10.000.-$, 200:1, mmtu: 1.0, ProfitPct: 1.0, 0.2 lots, Max FloatingDD: -1.93% (no profit yet, 1 trim and reverse)

Sure I´m wrong, but maxDD always less in Basket14_02, let´s see when comes profits......
  • #1,427
  • Oct 27, 2010 1:20pm Oct 27, 2010 1:20pm
Quoting Caillou
Phantom_Add_Six_02a: 10.000.-$, 200:1, mmtu: 0.5, ProfitPct: 0.5, 0.1 lots, Max FloatingDD: -4.56% (no profit yet)

Phantom_Add_Six_03b: 10.000.-$, 200:1, mmtu: 0.5, ProfitPct: 0.75, 0.1 lots, Max FloatingDD: -6.26% (no profit yet)

Basket14_02: 10.000.-$, 200:1, mmtu: 1.0, ProfitPct: 1.0, 0.2 lots, Max FloatingDD: -1.93% (no profit yet, 1 trim and reverse)

Sure I´m wrong, but maxDD always less in Basket14_02, let´s see when comes profits......
hello this :
Basket14_02, is never -i have demo and acount go down ,down..shame about time...

best regards

vienna
  • #1,428
  • Oct 27, 2010 2:24pm Oct 27, 2010 2:24pm
Quoting MetaCoder
It's good to understand as many of the MetaTrader platform and MetaQuotes language idiosyncracies as humanly possible, because some of them are gamestoppers.

I would like to note though that on this thread, the strategies and the EAs that implement them do not depend heavily on indicators. My personal emphasis is on tactical frameworks, not indicators.
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Hi!

I came accross your thread a few hours ago. Tested both the Basket EAs and the Phantom. Comparing the Baskets with the Phantoms, the Basket14 traded all 14 pairs moments upon loading while the Phantoms not responding and have not traded so far. The parameters are in default mode, maybe there is something to tweak on. Would appreciate ahy help.

Sincerely,

Ed
  • #1,429
  • Oct 27, 2010 2:34pm Oct 27, 2010 2:34pm
Might need to read a bit more in the thread, phantoms only trade once at the top of the hour.
  • #1,430
  • Oct 27, 2010 2:43pm Oct 27, 2010 2:43pm
[Quote = tazmaan; 4127692] Möglicherweise müssen Sie ein bisschen mehr zu lesen in dem Thread, Phantome nur einmal Handel an der Spitze der Stunde [/ quote].

correctly !
greating vienna
  • #1,431
  • Oct 27, 2010 2:48pm Oct 27, 2010 2:48pm
hi,
the picture ,
phantom_addsix_03b
diversifikation - is ok
MaxMargin:0.1
ProfitPc:1.0-

best regards
vienna
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  • #1,432
  • Oct 27, 2010 2:55pm Oct 27, 2010 2:55pm
MC,

there is an idea that crossed my mind...we all do experience some type of a DD before the profit target it hit. probably because the phantom and biggest winner reverses its way after being the winner.
Would it be interesting to reverse the trades? sell the biggest winner instead of buy?
  • #1,433
  • Oct 27, 2010 3:42pm Oct 27, 2010 3:42pm
Quoting tazmaan
Might need to read a bit more in the thread, phantoms only trade once at the top of the hour.
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Thanks.

Sincerely,

Ed
  • #1,434
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:01pm Oct 27, 2010 4:01pm
Read through the entire thread, and I'm joining this remarkable crew from today on!

One question, in a 6 or 14 synthetic hedge, is it possible for more than 50% of the pairs in the same group to trend in the same direction?

I'm quite good at calculating the chance in percentage of a pair trending up or down so it might enable the EA to reach the 1% or whatever profit sooner.

I'm new to this kind of trading so sorry in advance if I'm going to ask stupid questions...

Regards
  • #1,435
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:13pm Oct 27, 2010 4:13pm
Quoting Saidar
One question, in a 6 or 14 synthetic hedge, is it possible for more than 50% of the pairs in the same group to trend in the same direction?
It's possible, but we don't depend on that to make our money. The pairs do all kinds of things at different times. But always some pairs are moving more than the others. We identify which ones those are and trade them. Pretty simple.

One of the beautiful things about a many-pair synthetic hedge is that all components of one side of the hedge DO NOT move together in the same direction.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,436
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:19pm Oct 27, 2010 4:19pm
Quoting poltroni
Would it be interesting to reverse the trades? sell the biggest winner instead of buy?
Now let's not outsmart ourselves. In a strongly directional market, this would be a surefire way to get into big drawdown, fast.

And if we try to outsmart ourselves even further by trying to "detect" that we're in a sideways market so maybe we should trade opposite the normal direction, we should remind ourselves that market action can suddently break out into strong directional movement at any moment, right after we've opened a batch of "sideways trades".
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,437
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:21pm Oct 27, 2010 4:21pm
Quoting vienna
hi,
the picture ,
phantom_addsix_03b
diversifikation - is ok
MaxMargin:0.1
ProfitPc:1.0-

best regards
vienna
Resetting the phantom trades near the opening time of each of the three major global trading regions somewhat mimics the effect of opening different instances of the EA at those same times.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,438
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:26pm Oct 27, 2010 4:26pm
Quoting Adey14
...One influential ingredient may be the absence of loser cutting from phantoms. (Is that correct?)

Another may be extended consolidation. With a single pair, if short or long volume increases in the desired direction, but price keeps reversing and doesn't trend significantly, there's failure, as margin climbs (phantom only), and the exit sits as high as everest (both potentially). But with a group of pairs, it may be subtly different?

Any clarity on this, much appreciated!
Yes, not cutting the losers is a key difference with the phantoms, plus letting pairs distinquish themselves with the phantom trade technique before we open actual trades.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,439
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:34pm Oct 27, 2010 4:34pm
Quoting MetaCoder
It's possible, but we don't depend on that to make our money. The pairs do all kinds of things at different times. But always some pairs are moving more than the others. We identify which ones those are and trade them. Pretty simple.

One of the beautiful things about a many-pair synthetic hedge is that all components of one side of the hedge DO NOT move together in the same direction.
Then I'm missing something here, thought I understood how the strategy works. But no worries will figure it out eventually.

I'm going to start experimenting with this kind of trading in MT5... Currently testing the Phantom_Addsix_03b, account up by 2.1%, currently in 3% drawdown.
  • #1,440
  • Oct 27, 2010 4:43pm Oct 27, 2010 4:43pm
It takes a while to get one's brain around a many-pair sythetic hedge.
Open to new approaches.
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