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  • #1,361
  • Oct 26, 2010 2:05am Oct 26, 2010 2:05am
If 03 and 03a opens trades with default settings but 03b not, I don´t know what could happen. In "expert" tab you can see trades like they would be opened ?
  • #1,362
  • Oct 26, 2010 2:07am Oct 26, 2010 2:07am
Quoting Caillou
No more trades for Phantom_AddSix_02 in 15 hours, extremely slow so I moved to Phantom_AddSix_03b too. Each hour a trade was opened so I think it is no normal Fredgold. Maybe you have the same problem I had with Lots. What is your mmtu ?
yeah, 02 got frozen. EURUSD, GBPJPY are in the biggest winner list so 06 team is losing to 14 team.

but good thing is DD is coming down. so no issues

for me less trades are better
  • #1,363
  • Oct 26, 2010 3:34am Oct 26, 2010 3:34am
I can not leave I have to test my idea, share it with you.
it may be a crazy idea ....

I thought:
all ea AddSix02, 03 and taz, and Wrongway are built perfectly.

My mission is to have money with little success.
account usd to start 1000 usd.
1. lower margin as is!
2. small target - a little time in the market
3. currencies with diversifakation

startaccount Activtrades for european people-
1000 usd-
setup:
extern double MaxMarginToUse = 0.1;
extern double Lots = 0.1;
extern double ProfitPct = 0.25;

extern int MagicNumber = 777111;

startaccount Tadawul for another People
5000 usd- (this demo stardet with 0.05 lot-sorry)
setup:
extern double MaxMarginToUse = 0.1;
extern double Lots = 0.1;
extern double ProfitPct = 0.25;
extern int MagicNumber = 777111;

all the ea have the same Magicnumber-therefore work together towards the same goal.
will it work?
we'll see.
if you do not try you can not know.
here is an initial report.
best regards
vienna
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  • #1,364
  • Oct 26, 2010 3:40am Oct 26, 2010 3:40am
the same wiht 4 ea....
i am so grazy.....
best regards
vienna
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  • #1,365
  • Oct 26, 2010 9:36am Oct 26, 2010 9:36am
Good Afternoon,
Just my opinion but, after a few days testing Phantoms EAs, i.e. today with Phantom_AddSix_03b, for a few hours GBP/USD was the big winner during 9 hours, so 9 buys were opened, 0.1 lots per trade, total 0.9 buys GBP/USD. If suddenly a big bear movement happens in GBP/USD, then a very big DD will come, a DD I think difficult to neutralize.
What I mean is I think we are in a safer position with Basket than with Phantom EA´s. Maybe I´m wrong but it seems to me safer to cut looses than to add winners.....
Anyway, I´m giving a new chance to Basket14_02, start at 12h00 (GMT+2), first profit 4 hours later, +1%, max DD 2.16%....
Thanks again MC
  • #1,366
  • Oct 26, 2010 9:52am Oct 26, 2010 9:52am
It appears that .67 MaxMargin may be too high. Take a look at each tab for results of all my 50:1 demos. AddSix_01 has had a margin call and all the others except 02 which is at .4 MM, have seen margin levels below 500%.

AddSix_02 has been running longer than the others and is set at 0.4 MaxMargin and 1.0 ProfitPct. It is up 4% in 6 trading days.
Attached File(s)
File Type: xls IBFX 50-1.xls   250 KB | 244 downloads
Frazer
  • #1,367
  • Oct 26, 2010 9:55am Oct 26, 2010 9:55am
Love the quality of your reports, Frazer.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,368
  • Oct 26, 2010 9:57am Oct 26, 2010 9:57am
Quoting aajduk
The extra line you sugeested adding to the versions:

if (MathMod(TimeHour(TimeCurrent()),8) == 0.0 &&
TimeMinute(TimeCurrent()) == 1)
{
ResetPhantoms();
}

I assume this does not have to be added to the Phantom_Addsix_03b, am I correct.
That's correct, 03b already has logic like this.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,369
  • Oct 26, 2010 11:30am Oct 26, 2010 11:30am
Quoting frazerd
It appears that .67 MaxMargin may be too high. Take a look at each tab for results of all my 50:1 demos. AddSix_01 has had a margin call and all the others except 02 which is at .4 MM, have seen margin levels below 500%.

AddSix_02 has been running longer than the others and is set at 0.4 MaxMargin and 1.0 ProfitPct. It is up 4% in 6 trading days.
MaxMarginToUse at 0.335 and ProfitPct at 0.5, or something along those lines, might be about right for 50:1 leverage.

Note that some of the versions are more conservative in how many trades they add, so that possibly we could get away with more aggressive settings.

Frazer's reporting is so critical because it gives us good data for making these decisions.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,370
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:07pm Oct 26, 2010 12:07pm
I took some time to study Frazer's latest spreadsheet. What I saw was pretty much what I expected.

Add_02-taz has the unhedged problem and AddSix_01 simply adds too many trades.

AddSix_02 is more efficient and Frazer's adjustment of MaxMarginToUse to 0.4 might continue working well.

AddSix_03, 03a and 03b are trading as I'd expect and I do think the 0.67 setting for MaxMarginToUse might be too high.

The following settings might be more prudent:

MaxMarginToUse: 0.4
ProfitPct: 1.0

MaxMarginToUse: 0.335
ProfitPct: 0.5

Somewhere in that range of MaxMarginToUse/ProfitPct proportionality (0.4 to 0.67) lies the sweet spot for 50:1 leveraged trading.

And I still think aiming for minimum margin levels of around 500% is good.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,371
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:13pm Oct 26, 2010 12:13pm
One more preliminary conclusion -- I don't think resetting the phantom trades every 8 hours is hurting anything. As time passes we might see signs that it helps.

That's all for now, good trades everyone.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,372
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:18pm Oct 26, 2010 12:18pm
Started a Tadawul 500:1 demo last night using MaxMargin 0.1 and ProfitPct 1.0. I do not understand the ramifications of their .05 minimum lot size and add lot multiple, but these settings opened .05 lot on a $4000 starting balance and the EA closed with a 1%(-) profit. It is now into a little DD situation, but Lowest margin has only been 2688% so far.
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Frazer
  • #1,373
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:23pm Oct 26, 2010 12:23pm
I opened a Tadawul demo, 200:1 I believe. Standard is the only account option so the 0.05 lots is like 0.5 in mini terms.

So far it's done fine but my starting balance was only $3,000, could get a margin call later.
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,374
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:23pm Oct 26, 2010 12:23pm
considering all the factors, add06_02 seems to be the winner. wonder how the resetting phantoms every 8 hhrs will do to 02 ?
  • #1,375
  • Oct 26, 2010 12:26pm Oct 26, 2010 12:26pm
Quoting roundrock
considering all the factors, add06_02 seems to be the winner. wonder how the resetting phantoms every 8 hhrs will do to 02 ?
We'll find out.

Note default settings:
MaxMarginToUse = 0.3
ProfitPct = 0.5
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File Type: mq4 Phantom_AddSix_02a.mq4   49 KB | 374 downloads
Open to new approaches.
  • #1,376
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:01pm Oct 26, 2010 1:01pm
Quoting MetaCoder
We'll find out.

Note default settings:
MaxMarginToUse = 0.3
ProfitPct = 0.5
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My AddSix_02 has been the best one so far, as well. I will load this version on top of 02.
Frazer
  • #1,377
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:15pm Oct 26, 2010 1:15pm
Might run into issues when your ea on tadawulf wants to open say .07 lots, since the only choice is .05 or .10. It does seem to handle bumping it up to .05 if its trying to open say .04, since it does check for minlot size. Be curious to see what happens when it tries to open more than .05 tho.
  • #1,378
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:27pm Oct 26, 2010 1:27pm
Quoting frazerd
My AddSix_02 has been the best one so far, as well. I will load this version on top of 02.
That's done and it was a good time to do it since the EA had just closed again and only had 1 new trade on it. I also reset the Lowest Margin % global variable so we will know the lowest margin since loading the changed version. That demo is up more than 5% since starting on 17 Oct.
Frazer
  • #1,379
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:31pm Oct 26, 2010 1:31pm
Quoting tazmaan
Might run into issues when your ea on tadawulf wants to open say .07 lots, since the only choice is .05 or .10. It does seem to handle bumping it up to .05 if its trying to open say .04, since it does check for minlot size. Be curious to see what happens when it tries to open more than .05 tho.
account 5000 usd-
simple solution-
fixed lot in ea -0.05 and account have 50000 usd fixed lot 0.1-
best regards
vienna

PS :tadawul minimum account 5000 usd -
in other ways margincall !
greating vienna
  • #1,380
  • Oct 26, 2010 1:51pm Oct 26, 2010 1:51pm
Quoting frazerd
That's done and it was a good time to do it since the EA had just closed again and only had 1 new trade on it. I also reset the Lowest Margin % global variable so we will know the lowest margin since loading the changed version. That demo is up more than 5% since starting on 17 Oct.
Excellent.
Open to new approaches.
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