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  • #282,961
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:08pm Aug 17, 2010 7:08pm
Quoting mfoste1
who woulda thunk it?...........http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...thew-lynn.html
tick tock... wtf will be stronger. but it will not be as bad as japan.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #282,962
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:09pm Aug 17, 2010 7:09pm
Bull is fighting at 1.2862-3, some decent orders there then...
They think they are smarter than I am.
  • #282,963
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:16pm Aug 17, 2010 7:16pm
Quoting Z3iz3i
Bull is fighting at 1.2862-3, some decent orders there then...
just a tl..dead man walking..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #282,964
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:29pm Aug 17, 2010 7:29pm
Quoting gatorinla
just a tl..dead man walking..
Excuse me....pretty new here....could you help me out with the tl -

thanks.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #282,965
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:31pm Aug 17, 2010 7:31pm
Quoting Faller
Excuse me....pretty new here....could you help me out with the tl -

thanks.
tl is Trendline..
  • #282,966
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:31pm Aug 17, 2010 7:31pm
Quoting gatorinla
tick tock... wtf will be stronger. but it will not be as bad as japan.

i was watching a documentary on the 20yrs of deflation in japan.....and they were saying how with the current global state, they could still very likely be in a deflationary spiral 10 years from now. Theyre really screwed.
  • #282,967
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:32pm Aug 17, 2010 7:32pm
Quoting deano1292
tl is Trendline..
Thank you.....note taken.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #282,968
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:34pm Aug 17, 2010 7:34pm
Quoting mfoste1
i was watching a documentary on the 20yrs of deflation in japan.....and they were saying how with the current global state, they could still very likely be in a deflationary spiral 10 years from now. Theyre really screwed.
Not sure if I saw the same doco, but it pretty much said the same thing. They *are* screwed, and there's sweet f a they can do about it...apparently
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #282,969
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:36pm Aug 17, 2010 7:36pm
That report from Bloomberg is somewhat biased...

There are definitely signs of a more responsable economic policy, since the panic and EUR free fall in May, Merkel got angry at PIIGS amateur GVT´s and some thing have changed...

At least here in Portugal all the fancy and expensive construction projects, like the High end 200+ MPH train, the new 2BnEUR+ bridge and many others have been "post poned"... The well fare and unemployment checks have been tightened so there is some clear effort here to reduce GVT spending...

Is America doing the same thing?...

It could be headed to 1.2847 then Bull continuation...
  • #282,970
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:39pm Aug 17, 2010 7:39pm
Quoting Barata
That report from Bloomberg is somewhat biased...

There are definitely signs of a more responsable economic policy, since the panic and EUR free fall in May, Merkel got angry at PIIGS amateur GVT´s and some thing have changed...

At least here in Portugal all the fancy and expensive construction projects, like the High end 200+ MPH train, the new 2BnEUR+ bridge and many others have been "post poned"... The well fare and unemployment checks have been tightened so there is some clear effort here to reduce GVT spending...

Is America doing the...
Can't compare apples with oranges......comparative size of economy.....exports.....technology.....many areas where there is no comparison
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #282,971
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:42pm Aug 17, 2010 7:42pm
Quoting realjumper
Can't compare apples with oranges......comparative size of economy.....exports.....technology.....many areas where there is no comparison

Sure, but he other PIGS are also making effort to cut GVT spending, you´ve seen the riots in Greece, it happened because of that.
  • #282,972
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:45pm Aug 17, 2010 7:45pm
Quoting Barata
Sure, but he other PIGS are also making effort to cut GVT spending, you´ve seen the riots in Greece, it happened because of that.
so are the people rioting now agreeing to go back to work? where are the jobs coming from too? check out the chf fake out..
  • #282,973
  • Aug 17, 2010 7:54pm Aug 17, 2010 7:54pm
Quoting uraceulose
so are the people rioting now agreeing to go back to work? where are the jobs coming from too? check out the chf fake out..
They rioted... But if GVT tightens well fare policy then sooner or later they will have to get back to work... Like in the old times when they said "No work no food".

I can´t tell about other PIGS, but at least here in Portugal there are many jobs offers to fill...

Only because someone is unemployed it does not imply that He is actively seeking to find a job.

Every week We see in the news business owners complaining that they can´t find people to work at bars, coffe shops, etc.

In the past years there were unenployed people that refused jobs beacause they wanted better wages and because they preferred being at home receiving EUR from GVT, now with tightened wellfare policies it won´t happen so much.

It does not mean that the problems are solved... But we are facing them...
  • #282,974
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:02pm Aug 17, 2010 8:02pm
"At least here in Portugal all the fancy and expensive construction projects, like the High end 200+ MPH train, the new 2BnEUR+ bridge and many others have been "post poned"... The well fare and unemployment checks have been tightened so there is some clear effort here to reduce GVT spending...

Is America doing the same thing?... "


Where I live the government projects have kept going. The private projects were tabled for a time, but there is activity. They still build houses here, and the prices never took a big hit. If you have a skill and want to work, there are jobs. I think we have fared better than most parts of the country.
I am a self employed engineering consultant and have never had a problem having enough work.
  • #282,975
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:02pm Aug 17, 2010 8:02pm
Quoting Barata
Sure, but he other PIGS are also making effort to cut GVT spending, you´ve seen the riots in Greece, it happened because of that.
Yes, but the 'cure' is more than just govt spending. That's a large part of the equasion for sure, but it's not the whole story.

We are doing the same here in NZ, but cutting govt spending is just one part of the jigsaw......ramping up exports is another crucial area.

So you see it's difficult to draw comparisons with USA....which is still the largest economy on the planet
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #282,976
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:05pm Aug 17, 2010 8:05pm
Quoting Faller
Excuse me....pretty new here....could you help me out with the tl -

thanks.
2 shots.. the first shows the tl... in it you can see where it was broken marked with a red X. the second shows a cloned tl from the first touching the first breach. i consider tl broken below this line. like it is atm. if it don't go lower i will clone another below the where we are atm.
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  • #282,977
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:08pm Aug 17, 2010 8:08pm
Quoting gatorinla
2 shots.. the first shows the tl... in it you can see where it was broken marked with a red X. the second shows a cloned tl from the first touching the first breach. i consider tl broken below this line. like it is atm. if it don't go lower i will clone another below the where we are atm.

Imformative....thanks for the charts and the explanation.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #282,978
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:09pm Aug 17, 2010 8:09pm
Quoting mfoste1
i was watching a documentary on the 20yrs of deflation in japan.....and they were saying how with the current global state, they could still very likely be in a deflationary spiral 10 years from now. Theyre really screwed.
each year they loose 100 % of value.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #282,979
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:11pm Aug 17, 2010 8:11pm
Quoting Faller
Imformative....thanks for the charts and the explanation.

Looks like that is a 15 min chart? Is that the time frame you like to watch for your entries? Or do you use multiple timeframes?

Thanks.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #282,980
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:21pm Aug 17, 2010 8:21pm
dipping its toe in the MF zone.
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