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  • #255,821
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:40pm Jun 9, 2010 2:40pm
Quoting Now
oil consumption to near zero
good try... Near zero? Why planes are near full of passengers

filled at 95% capacity

and

Tickets are doubled in price then? Because OIL is so low and inflation is ZERO?
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  • #255,822
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:41pm Jun 9, 2010 2:41pm
Quoting DMA Trader
Bulls Make Money, Bears Make Money, Pigs Get Slaughtered

Nice say, thinking where have I seen it before????
  • #255,823
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:43pm Jun 9, 2010 2:43pm
Quoting egkid
I'm not trading oil "wish i can" But i keep an eye on everything
My question: does oil related so much with euro?
If oil 55 where u expecting euro@ ?
its fluid.. today it 75... next time if eu slips a few hundred pips it may be 70 or 65...

the last time before today it was about 75.. at 55 i dont know but that's about 27% lower oil so i guess euro 27% less.. but oil will always have value cause its a commodity.. euro may not.. euro should not be priced higher then the aud..
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  • #255,824
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:43pm Jun 9, 2010 2:43pm
Quoting gatorinla
sky there are at least 200 tankers in the world full of oil with no place to go. its bullshit!!!!!! they manipulate the price by not putting it in new jersey,Louisiana or Oklahoma storage.. they keep it offshore... then sell it when the price pops due to low inventory numbers... its a shell game sky... in 2008 many lost cause the price dropped.. the owners of the ships got free oil cause the owners of the oil got a margin call.. when they got a margin call they couldn't pay for the debarge fees. so the ship owner sold it cheap... it could happen...
gator i agree with you. prices are manipulated. but this is not new. this a common feature of human behaviour. it is the same when you go buy souvenirs in a souk in Casablanca or a pueblo in mexico. there is plenty of the plastic dolls but all the sellers ask the same price so this is what you have to pay if your bus is leaving and you need it. try to rent a condo in the bahamas, there s a full range of empty condos but unless you are willing to spend time looking for the owner and you will have to pay what the agent asks, i.e. an inflated price. oh and should i mention the retail market where they change their prices based on what the other super market charges ? all prices are manipulated to a certain extent. houses, dolls, milk, oil.
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  • #255,825
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:44pm Jun 9, 2010 2:44pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
good try... Near zero? Why planes are full near full of passengers and

Tickets are doubled in price then? Because OIL is so low and nobody

need it?
keep in mind that some/all airlines buy oil months/years in advance. ticket prices doubled just like the price of everything else man. we just haven't noticed yet..bottom line is oil is down and that's because of demand is down.
shell game anyway, @ 50 bucks a barrel, they're making billions
  • #255,826
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:44pm Jun 9, 2010 2:44pm
Quoting uraceulose
You believe this though even with the tankers full, salt domes and demand down?
Demand down? How possibly any demand can be down when

world population probably doubled since 1940?

Commodities are limited, population growth unlimited, money supply

is unlimited as well, take calculator and do the math.
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  • #255,827
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:45pm Jun 9, 2010 2:45pm
Quoting mercy seat
Immediate range aprox. something between 1.2069 area and 1.2035 / 29 on the downside at first. As I do not expect big things from here. A downside retrace I would like to suppose...

Dinner time !

Okay - unwinded the rest (18% of whole position beeing sold) from 1.20697 here and now at 1.19796. Das war's erst mal...




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  • #255,828
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:45pm Jun 9, 2010 2:45pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
good try... Near zero? Why planes are near full of passengers

filled at 95% capacity

and

Tickets are doubled in price then? Because OIL is so low and inflation is ZERO?
no because they fly less plane routes to fill the planes and jack up the price.
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  • #255,829
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:45pm Jun 9, 2010 2:45pm
Quoting uraceulose
shell game anyway, @ 50 bucks a barrel, they're making billions
Yeah but you not going to see $50, unless another doom and gloom

depression story pops up..
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  • #255,830
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:46pm Jun 9, 2010 2:46pm
just placed long position at 1.1984 to 1.2070. S/L at 1.1920
  • #255,831
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:48pm Jun 9, 2010 2:48pm
10 min
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  • #255,832
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:48pm Jun 9, 2010 2:48pm
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Quoting SkyzerFX
good try... Near zero? Why planes are near full of passengers

filled at 95% capacity

and

Tickets are doubled in price then? Because OIL is so low and inflation is ZERO?
You did not quote me rightly.

Where will oil consumption be in 5-10-15 years?

Industrialised nations will drop oil, car/plane/boat engines etc that operate without oil are in existence, waiting to be employed on large scale.

Water, not oil.
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  • #255,833
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:49pm Jun 9, 2010 2:49pm
Long @ 1.1980
SL @ 1.1920
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  • #255,834
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:50pm Jun 9, 2010 2:50pm
BP promised to pay all the clean-up costs and that alone will drive them bankrupt. nasty counterparty blow to all the banks. inventory selloff = oil down to 30 or so bucks. say goodbye to the fake recovery only lawyers and bankers believe in. time to purge the useless parasites like we should have done in 2008.
  • #255,835
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:51pm Jun 9, 2010 2:51pm
Doomsters drop DOW down again.. Well nothing new..

Buy high, sell low..
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  • #255,836
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:51pm Jun 9, 2010 2:51pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Demand down? How possibly any demand can be down when

world population probably doubled since 1940?

Commodities are limited, population growth unlimited, money supply

is unlimited as well, take calculator and do the math.
who cares about 1940? what was the demand for oil in 07-08 vs now? This is what we have to compare to..you're going back a little too far to compare oil demand then vs now..
With oil man, it only has to sit for a day and it starts costing billions..we don't have very much oil storage on this planet, period. when the storage is full(which it is now)...the wholesaler drops his prices to get some profit on his books/pay bills/whatever. the speculators are gone now, it's on us.
when the storage is empty and we're burning the entire amount that they DECIDE TO PUMP...prices go back to where you're thinking.
keep in mind 50 per barrel is enough for saudi's and whoever else to make money..it won't stay there long of course but they've already given their "fair price targets"
  • #255,837
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:52pm Jun 9, 2010 2:52pm
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Quoting Forextrader4
Ok this will be the right time to place a market buy order 1.9800 level according to my 5 min time frame and 1hr chart. i'm long at 1.9880. good luck everyone.
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  • #255,838
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:52pm Jun 9, 2010 2:52pm
Quoting Now

Where will oil consumption be in 5-10-15 years?

At least double from today levels..

Whatever it might be, I stick with my target $85 by July 4.
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  • #255,839
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:53pm Jun 9, 2010 2:53pm
Quoting nvcK
time to purge the useless parasites....
Forex traders, too....?
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  • #255,840
  • Jun 9, 2010 2:53pm Jun 9, 2010 2:53pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Yeah but you not going to see $50, unless another doom and gloom

depression story pops up..

tick tock on that one..you know this.

Europe, China, US..take your pick...oh Japan, Australia, Koreas(war), middle east(same thing)...bilderberg lining it all up
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