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  • #252,301
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:11pm Jun 3, 2010 2:11pm
Hello all. Could today be the day we break 2100?
  • #252,302
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:16pm Jun 3, 2010 2:16pm
Quoting ripcord
We're not on the same page here...I'm simply questioning the logistics of hedging over being flat. It has nothing to do with news and rapid market movements.
The main advantage of hedging to minimize loss and risks. Ok lets not talk about news anymore since I got a bad feelings the ppl will be bored by reading this...
After all this is EU thread not the news thread.

Yesterday when EU rallied I opened 2 short positions at 2250 and 2231. EU went up even divergences were negated. At 2270 I hedged with 2 lots thus negating the effect of the rally. Many would opt for a s/l at 2292 and thus lose the trade.
I closed the hedged position at 2310 taking the profit and on the next candle ADX crossed appeared signalling for a possible trend change. Then I added a short again.
As for today all divergences stayed bearish and I LET MY SHORTS touch all t/p 2250 2220 and 2200.

I hedged and I won..Simple as that... I can bet many s/l have been hit well not mine. Also I saved my investment from a potential bear trap as I stated that was a dead cat bounce.

Pls lets not talk about this anymore. Sometimes not always I hedge and I win...simple as that, if u dont use hedging then dont use it. I dont really need to know ur trading strategies and I teach ppl to use hedging the right way. If u would like to know more join my club of fellow traders here. Ur welcome

Happy pipping
  • #252,303
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:16pm Jun 3, 2010 2:16pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Hello all. Could today be the day we break 2100?
very possible , 1.2100 to 1.2080.
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  • #252,304
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:17pm Jun 3, 2010 2:17pm
about to break.
c'mon baby break it
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  • #252,305
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:19pm Jun 3, 2010 2:19pm
EURCHF 56 pips away from 1.40
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  • #252,306
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:20pm Jun 3, 2010 2:20pm
Price is heading for s2, 1.2133. The last line in the sand.
  • #252,307
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:21pm Jun 3, 2010 2:21pm
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  • #252,308
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:22pm Jun 3, 2010 2:22pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Hello all. Could today be the day we break 2100?

I am hoping

teb
  • #252,309
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:22pm Jun 3, 2010 2:22pm
Quoting Atlast
Price is heading for s2, 1.2133. The last line in the sand.
in a few months we will look at 1.2133 and say.
Man I hope we see a big bounce to 1.2133
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  • #252,310
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:23pm Jun 3, 2010 2:23pm
I want to see what happens if it nears 2150 again.
Only expectation matters . . .
  • #252,311
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:24pm Jun 3, 2010 2:24pm
Quoting DMA Trader;
in a few months we will look at 1.2133 and say.
Man I hope we see a big bounce to 1.2133
LOL

Hey ma, what's a stop-loss?
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  • #252,312
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:25pm Jun 3, 2010 2:25pm
The latest from Goldman's John Noyce

A lead indicator of EURUSD’s sharp decline from the 12th April high at 1.3692 to the 6th May low at 1.2510 was given by widening in Eurozone-periphery/-core spreads
These spreads have fallen off radar screens over the past few weeks due to the Eurozone “Stabilisation Package”
However, Spanish yields are now beginning to widen and the Spain/Germany 10-year spread is moving to new all time wides on our data
With this in mind it seems the risks of an eventual downside break from the recent range on EURUSD are again increasing
At this point the USD Index has the clearest pivots and structure from which to calculate targets…
…the highs of the recent consolidation are clustered 87.39-87.48. A close above that region would target 89.8…
…assuming an equal %age move this would target approximately 1.18 on EURUSD
Overall, it looks like the chances of a downside break from the recent range on EURUSD to target 1.19-1.18 are increasing
As a result of this we’re going to add Bearish-EURUSD to our Favourite Tactical Themes…
…given the 1.18 target is quite close we’d close the consider the theme closed if spot trades above 1.2355
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  • #252,313
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:25pm Jun 3, 2010 2:25pm
see you later. watch the level for low risk long trade.
  • #252,314
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:28pm Jun 3, 2010 2:28pm
Depends a bit on Dow Indu - possibly EU could bounce up a bit at first...
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  • #252,315
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:28pm Jun 3, 2010 2:28pm
[quote=T@rantula;3775346]The main advantage of hedging to minimize loss and risks. Ok lets not talk about news anymore since I got a bad feelings the ppl will be bored by reading this...
After all this is EU thread not the news thread.

Yesterday when EU rallied I opened 2 short positions at 2250 and 2231. EU went up even divergences were negated. At 2270 I hedged with 2 lots thus negating the effect of the rally. So closed the shorts--Flat position

Many would opt for a s/l at 2292 and thus lose the trade.

And then you go short @ 1.2310 again, and make profit.[ends/quote]

I just don't understand why you call it a "hedge". A Hedge is "In finance, a hedge is a position established in one market in an attempt to offset exposure to price fluctuations in some opposite position in another market with the goal of minimizing one's exposure to unwanted risk. "thnx wiki..

You can call it a hedge when you hedge with other currencypairs or use options or futures...
  • #252,316
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:29pm Jun 3, 2010 2:29pm
Quoting DMA Trader
The latest from Goldman's John Noyce

…given the 1.18 target is quite close we’d close the consider the theme closed if spot trades above 1.2355[/b]
True
  • #252,317
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:30pm Jun 3, 2010 2:30pm
Quoting Atlast
see you later. watch the level for low risk long trade.
later man
  • #252,318
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:30pm Jun 3, 2010 2:30pm
[quote=TudorJonesJR;3775373]
Quoting T@rantula
The main advantage of hedging to minimize loss and risks. Ok lets not talk about news anymore since I got a bad feelings the ppl will be bored by reading this...
After all this is EU thread not the news thread.

Yesterday when EU rallied I opened 2 short positions at 2250 and 2231. EU went up even divergences were negated. At 2270 I hedged with 2 lots thus negating the effect of the rally. So closed the shorts--Flat position

Many would opt for a s/l at 2292 and thus lose the trade.

I closed the hedged position...


exactly - short covering time now...
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  • #252,319
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:33pm Jun 3, 2010 2:33pm
[quote=TudorJonesJR;3775373]
Quoting T@rantula
. So closed the shorts--Flat position

...[ends/quote]

I just don't understand why you call it a "hedge". A Hedge is "In finance, a hedge is a position established in one market in an attempt to offset exposure to price fluctuations in some opposite position in another market with the goal of minimizing one's exposure to unwanted risk. "thnx wiki..

You can call it a hedge when you hedge with other currencypairs or use options or futures...
I havent closed the shorts LOL. I have closed longs at 2310...2 longs opened at 2270. Thats 40 pips profit and I let my 2231 and 2250 touch t/p. Maybe i wasnt clear enough. None of my position was lost. longs touched t/p and shorts touched t/p
Pls learn the hedging definition
Hedging in Forex is holding of buy and sell positions in the same currency pair
  • #252,320
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:35pm Jun 3, 2010 2:35pm
[quote=TudorJonesJR;3775373]
Quoting T@rantula
The main advantage of hedging to minimize loss and risks. Ok lets not talk about news anymore since I got a bad feelings the ppl will be bored by reading this...
After all this is EU thread not the news thread.

Yesterday when EU rallied I opened 2 short positions at 2250 and 2231. EU went up even divergences were negated. At 2270 I hedged with 2 lots thus negating the effect of the rally. So closed the shorts--Flat position

Many would opt for a s/l at 2292 and thus lose the trade.

[b]And then you go short @...
For lacking a better word, I think. Covering, is that a better word?
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