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  • #175,741
  • Dec 28, 2009 12:45am Dec 28, 2009 12:45am
Quoting earthsmate
should people be trading around this time ? sounds like a lot of traps set by dealers etc ?
I am a newbie too and I will wait for a clear signal of where it is heading...don't get anything from the charts. Maybe tomorrows news ,the CB consumer confident , will give us some direction. It looks good for the dollar...I think.
  • #175,742
  • Dec 28, 2009 12:50am Dec 28, 2009 12:50am
Quoting earthsmate
should people be trading around this time ? sounds like a lot of traps set by dealers etc ?
It's not the traders who are at the desks right now but the "spares", the "juniors", the "new guys". Whichever euphemism you chose, the real people trading the real money are off until probably the second week of January.

So the short answer to your questions is "no".
Not all sins are created equal
  • #175,743
  • Dec 28, 2009 1:02am Dec 28, 2009 1:02am
Quoting Jay Walker
It's not the traders who are at the desks right now but the "spares", the "juniors", the "new guys". Whichever euphemism you chose, the real people trading the real money are off until probably the second week of January.

So the short answer to your questions is "no".
sounds like speculators etc. i do not like that of games .. i stay out until second week of January ... i tend to come in at the wrong time and cannot get out until it is too late ...

thanks
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  • #175,744
  • Dec 28, 2009 1:04am Dec 28, 2009 1:04am
Quoting Matt99
I am a newbie too and I will wait for a clear signal of where it is heading...don't get anything from the charts. Maybe tomorrows news ,the CB consumer confident , will give us some direction. It looks good for the dollar...I think.

thanks for that .. i am also not getting any definite direction yet in the longer term ... i tried the scalping but not working for me ...

i tend to lose focus very quickly and impatient to get out ...

i actually have the oppposite opinion, i have a feeling though dollars may going down, well at least for a bit ....it has gone up a bit too much ... a bit of a substantial correction before going up if ever ...


thanks again
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  • #175,745
  • Dec 28, 2009 1:26am Dec 28, 2009 1:26am
g'morning! by today down to 1.429.
there's a nice 123 with extension 1.618 just there.

or maybe not - that's the game ;-)

anyway.. I am deeming forums as "non productive" for trading! don't listen to others!
  • #175,746
  • Dec 28, 2009 2:17am Dec 28, 2009 2:17am
hallo. please show us your chart and explain for newbee...of course if you have the time. thanks.
Quoting Martingale
g'morning! by today down to 1.429.
there's a nice 123 with extension 1.618 just there.

or maybe not - that's the game ;-)

anyway.. I am deeming forums as "non productive" for trading! don't listen to others!
  • #175,747
  • Dec 28, 2009 2:44am Dec 28, 2009 2:44am
yesterday night my broker gave me a spread of 7 pips on euro/usd instead of 2 pips.....
  • #175,748
  • Dec 28, 2009 2:51am Dec 28, 2009 2:51am
Boring markets. :/

Wish I would have catched the little oil drop...
  • #175,749
  • Dec 28, 2009 2:54am Dec 28, 2009 2:54am
Quoting geocatalinfx
yesterday night my broker gave me a spread of 7 pips on euro/usd instead of 2 pips.....
I don't know who your broker is but Oanda has it clearly marked on their site.

SPREADS:

  1. Dec 24 (noon EST) - Dec 27: 'weekend' spreads available
  2. Dec 28: Spreads may be wider than normal depending on market liquidity and volatility
  3. Dec 31 (noon EST) - Jan 4 (London open): 'weekend' spreads available

https://fxtrade.oanda.com/your_account/login

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  • #175,750
  • Dec 28, 2009 2:55am Dec 28, 2009 2:55am
hallo
do you trade oil ?.... i have from my broker curde oil brent and is at 76.49 now.
Quoting TrooperCoope
Boring markets. :/

Wish I would have catched the little oil drop...
  • #175,751
  • Dec 28, 2009 2:59am Dec 28, 2009 2:59am
Quoting geocatalinfx
hallo
do you trade oil ?.... i have from my broker curde oil brent and is at 76.49 now.
Are u sure? Hasnt been that low since before the christmas gap on my chart. Either you are having enormous spreads, or you need to update ur chart.

Its at 78.08 right now.
  • #175,752
  • Dec 28, 2009 3:06am Dec 28, 2009 3:06am
Quoting TrooperCoope
Are u sure? Hasnt been that low since before the christmas gap on my chart. Either you are having enormous spreads, or you need to update ur chart.

Its at 78.08 right now.
My broker also quote 76.49-76.54
" When the ship starts to sink, don't just pray. JUMP "
  • #175,753
  • Dec 28, 2009 3:08am Dec 28, 2009 3:08am
maybe i have other kind of oil... look at my chart.
Quoting TrooperCoope
Are u sure? Hasnt been that low since before the christmas gap on my chart. Either you are having enormous spreads, or you need to update ur chart.

Its at 78.08 right now.
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  • #175,754
  • Dec 28, 2009 3:12am Dec 28, 2009 3:12am
Quoting geocatalinfx
hallo. please show us your chart and explain for newbee...of course if you have the time. thanks.
I am working on that ;-)
just having some problems to post a nice pic..
  • #175,755
  • Dec 28, 2009 3:43am Dec 28, 2009 3:43am
Quoting earthsmate
thanks for that .. i am also not getting any definite direction yet in the longer term ... i tried the scalping but not working for me ...

i tend to lose focus very quickly and impatient to get out ...

i actually have the oppposite opinion, i have a feeling though dollars may going down, well at least for a bit ....it has gone up a bit too much ... a bit of a substantial correction before going up if ever ...


thanks again
I meant the news was good for the dollar ,but thats only short-term ,long-term might be bad for dollar...depends on what bernanke wants and other stuff. what about the new healthcare-plan will bring the dollar down?
No scalping here either...have to stare at the screen...
  • #175,756
  • Dec 28, 2009 4:04am Dec 28, 2009 4:04am
morning all
The best thing that can happen to you is to find out where you're wrong.
  • #175,757
  • Dec 28, 2009 4:13am Dec 28, 2009 4:13am
Hello,

I have a few questions about the eur/usd pair (correlations and more) :

If oil is trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If gold is trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If European stocks are trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If US stocks are trading higher what will happen to the pair?

What if both euro and US economy are doing great?

What will happen to the pair if the US increase rates?


Thank you for your replies.
  • #175,758
  • Dec 28, 2009 4:25am Dec 28, 2009 4:25am
Quoting waynkon
Hello,

I have a few questions about the eur/usd pair (correlations and more) :

If oil is trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If gold is trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If European stocks are trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If US stocks are trading higher what will happen to the pair?

What if both euro and US economy are doing great?

What will happen to the pair if the US increase rates?


Thank you for your replies.
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This will not happen 100% but is what people believe "happens".
And yes sometimes it does.... The reaction correlations work best when only oil is the one going up or one of the other you asked about... when there is more stuff happening it is getting even harder to look at it like this...

I personally have no problem making money with no indicators at all... All I look at is the candlesticks on the actual cross I am trading...
  • #175,759
  • Dec 28, 2009 4:26am Dec 28, 2009 4:26am
Hi all
I hope these events - what do you know?

chart below
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  • #175,760
  • Dec 28, 2009 4:45am Dec 28, 2009 4:45am
Quoting waynkon
Hello,

I have a few questions about the eur/usd pair (correlations and more) :

If oil is trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If gold is trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If European stocks are trading higher what will happen to the pair?

If US stocks are trading higher what will happen to the pair?

What if both euro and US economy are doing great?

What will happen to the pair if the US increase rates?


Thank you for your replies.



That are good questions! Specially the last two ones...
I remember that was an issue as well in many other forums...
Yes - true - that may be one of the reasons - why market wants to drive that pair down since beginning of december - because not only a few are believing that there might be a change in that rate issues sooner than many american forex participitiants are expecting...

Anyway - it looks to me still as if a bit toppish at this area...
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