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  • #8,641
  • Dec 14, 2009 7:23pm Dec 14, 2009 7:23pm
Quoting traderathome
EJ M15 and H4: With asian session next, EJ is the prime trading candidate. Based upon the most recent behaviour of price around the S&R area (M15 orange line) and the overall downward trend (upper left to lower right on both charts), it is entirely possible we will see a peek-a-boo up and then a run back down and out of the Dragon.....a move south. Anyway, all is quite "neutral" looking, and the whips have resulted in no trend continuation or reversal.....and this is all going on this way TOO LONG, imho. Conclusion: I am looking for a break, either...
EJ M15: As new day started with asian session the price was moved a bit higher for the first few hours. Then a quick drop on increased trading activity, which I read as selling off at the highs, followed by two more intervals of relative high trading activity as the price bounced up and down. This looks as though it head faked up and is consolidating for a run down. The CCI has peaked and rolled over, too. But we trade what we see. It has not yet broken out either way, and could go either way when it does. Ep short is shown by blue line. Ep long would be a bit lower than where the red SL line is.
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  • #8,642
  • Dec 14, 2009 7:29pm Dec 14, 2009 7:29pm
Quoting Domas4
Possible answer to your question. I can see that you are using ZigZag.
Sometimes ZigZag indicator just deceives and misses important
waves. I don't use it. Check the picture.
I like Domas's answer. Do not miss the importance of when Domas says on his chart "if this wave would have gone up the entry would have triggered." The SonicR is about wave analysis. No waves, no trade. If the market is not swinging, then sit out the boring waltz and wait for the jitterbug to get started again. There is no rule, but if I place an entry order, and it is not filled within a few hours, I will kill the order (like I did today with this EJ long), and wait for another set up. Like the Raghee Horner quote someone posted here last week - you do not have to be in every move. For what its worth, there is no SonicR logic to your proposed entry.
  • #8,643
  • Dec 14, 2009 7:55pm Dec 14, 2009 7:55pm
Quoting traderathome
EJ M15: As new day started with asian session the price was moved a bit higher for the first few hours. Then a quick drop on increased trading activity, which I read as selling off at the highs, followed by two more intervals of relative high trading activity as the price bounced up and down. This looks as though it head faked up and is consolidating for a run down. The CCI has peaked and rolled over, too. But we trade what we see. It has not yet broken out either way, and could go either way when it does. Ep short is shown by blue line. Ep long...
This is what I've been trying to figure out, the same high/low can be seen as High -> Low -> LH which can be a prelude to long signal or (ignore the high) Low -> HL which can be seen as a short signal... Or if we take consideration of the previous wave, the high can be seen as HL..

Is it gut feeling/bias that drives sonicker to go long or short? Or am I missing something?

Cheers..
BC
  • #8,644
  • Dec 14, 2009 8:08pm Dec 14, 2009 8:08pm
Quoting blackcat2
the same high/low can be seen as High -> Low -> LH which can be a prelude to long signal or (ignore the high) Low -> HL which can be seen as a short signal... Or if we take consideration of the previous wave, the high can be seen as HL..

Is it gut feeling/bias that drives sonicker to go long or short? Or am I missing something?

Cheers..
BC
You aren't missing a thing - a SonicR long set up can be a prelude to a short and vice versa.
  • #8,645
  • Edited 9:20pm Dec 14, 2009 8:41pm | Edited 9:20pm
Quoting ddaytrader
You aren't missing a thing - a SonicR long set up can be a prelude to a short and vice versa.
Ok, is this where the dragon tunnel comes to play? I suppose the way to make sure is to see what happen next..

Btw.. the Sonic v3 manual mentioned EMA set to 89 period (I set it on close) as one of the indicator, but it didn't really explain when it should be used.

Based on trade postings I've seen so far it seems that indicators we need for Sonic is just, 34 EMA on close,high,low, CCI and that's it.. after that is analysis combined with experience from other previous trades and perhaps other kind of knowledge which by the looks of it, play about 25-30% of the total decision making...

Does that sond correct? I'm just trying to put the pieces together..

Cheers..
BC
  • #8,646
  • Edited 9:09pm Dec 14, 2009 8:54pm | Edited 9:09pm
Quoting blackcat2
This is what I've been trying to figure out, the same high/low can be seen as High -> Low -> LH which can be a prelude to long signal or (ignore the high) Low -> HL which can be seen as a short signal... Or if we take consideration of the previous wave, the high can be seen as HL..

Is it gut feeling/bias that drives sonicker to go long or short? Or am I missing something?

Cheers..
BC
You need to show a chart with labels indicating what you are talking about, such as the one attached. Getting in sync with the wave can take some practice, and sometimes you just have to draw a line thru a series of what you think are waves when they are nothing more than ripples. Sometimes there are smaller waves within a single leg of a large wave. And sometimes a breakout can be on one of these smaller waves while you are watching a larger wave still developing. It takes practice. No one is perfect and no one gets them all right all the time.
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  • #8,647
  • Dec 14, 2009 9:20pm Dec 14, 2009 9:20pm
Quoting traderathome
You need to show a chart with labels indicating what you are talking about, such as the one attached. Getting in sync with the wave can take some practice, and sometimes you just have to draw a line thru a series of what you think are waves when they are nothing more than ripples....
Thanks Traderathome

That makes me feel better.. I thought it was just me who's too thick..

Thanks again.. I'll post chart next time so sonicker experts can verify my analysis...

Looking forward to surf the waves with all of you

Cheers..
BC
  • #8,648
  • Dec 14, 2009 9:52pm Dec 14, 2009 9:52pm
Looks like things are in suspended animation until FO or LO. I guess the prices of the various pairs are just where the big players want them, and until the big players get their fill, they aren't going anywhere.
  • #8,649
  • Dec 14, 2009 9:58pm Dec 14, 2009 9:58pm
Quoting traderathome
Looks like things are in suspended animation until FO or LO. I guess the prices of the various pairs are just where the big players want them, and until the big players get their fill, they aren't going anywhere.
Two day fed meeting starts tomorrow, so there will probably be nothing but whipsaws and losses until Wednesday afternoon. This might be a good time to take a couple of days off.
  • #8,650
  • Dec 14, 2009 10:00pm Dec 14, 2009 10:00pm
Quoting ddaytrader
David,



Anyway, here is another pic of my GU chart. I clarify my entry points for you. I have a good buddy who talks abou the market hitting the "reset button." What he means is price action has done something that allows him to see a new set up rather than the set up he was working. So I call this a SonicReset - it means price has traveled from above the dragon to below the dragon or vice versa. That lets me reset my High/Low count.

DD

I am just looking at your Reset pic and it strikes me that this is basically looking at the waves from a micro and macro viewpoint.

Doing this may make for a later entry but it seems it will be a confirmed entry as the original high is broken rather than jumping in at the lower High in the EP2.


I mean, instead of making the second EP into a separate wave is it feasible to step back and look at this setup from the macro viewpoint?

This is something I am working on to keep me out of bad entries, as TAH says knowing when to look at the bigger picture is important.
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  • #8,651
  • Dec 14, 2009 10:01pm Dec 14, 2009 10:01pm
Mkt is in horizontal mode...
So take a step back and get urself..relax

Sonic
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  • #8,652
  • Dec 14, 2009 10:48pm Dec 14, 2009 10:48pm
Hello, I'm new in this thread, yesterday I took 2 trades with this system and both went OK with +70 pips . I still reading all the thread (already in page 50 jeje) but now I saw in sonic's picture that he is not using enymore QQE and that he change the volume indicator for another one, where I can download it and see its explanation? thanks
Luis
  • #8,653
  • Dec 14, 2009 11:33pm Dec 14, 2009 11:33pm
How do you use larger waves in your analysis?

If I see a Sonic Wave appear where I have the TP1 level marked with the Sonic wave, does it add to the reasons to enter? Smaller Sonic in a larger Sonic at resistance.

Just trying to get a feel for what all to look at.
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  • #8,654
  • Dec 14, 2009 11:55pm Dec 14, 2009 11:55pm
morning...
cable? bouce from 1h channel

maybe too close to daily pv
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  • #8,655
  • Edited 3:22am Dec 15, 2009 12:14am | Edited 3:22am
My EUR trade jus entered. Will let market decide.

Edit: T/p 1 hit, moved S/L to BE. Let it run.

Edit:T/P 2 hit. All in +36pips. In hindsight. TP2 was way too conservative.
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  • #8,656
  • Dec 15, 2009 12:34am Dec 15, 2009 12:34am
Would someone who is using TAH's Daily pivots, please upload a screen shot of EU with the cursor over the Daily pivot so that price can be clearly seen, as in my screen shot? Just doing some final tweaking and checking of the pivots on this server.

Thanks in advance
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  • #8,657
  • Dec 15, 2009 12:41am Dec 15, 2009 12:41am
Quoting Rastaman
Would someone who is using TAH's Daily pivots, please upload a screen shot of EU with the cursor over the Daily pivot so that price can be clearly seen, as in my screen shot? Just doing some final tweaking and checking of the pivots on this server.

Thanks in advance
It might not be possible to align because different brokers has different serve times. So the pivots will not be the same across brokers. Best is to use one that starts at 00:00 GMT.
  • #8,658
  • Dec 15, 2009 12:49am Dec 15, 2009 12:49am
Quoting furburr
It might not be possible to align because different brokers has different serve times. So the pivots will not be the same across brokers. Best is to use one that starts at 00:00 GMT.
It should be and we should all have the daily pivot at the exact same area, if we all have it setup correctly in the input section.
For example, I am in Japan which is GMT+9 hours & so is my broker, so I have it set for +9 hours. At least that is my understanding of the reason TAH & Domas spent so much time in creating it, so that we all have the Daily pivots in the same ball park.

I know DD previously said "Don't sweat the small stuff" but this is not SMALL stuff. Obviously if PA is above or below the pivot, it is going to be critical to any trade.
Starting to see instead of just looking.
  • #8,659
  • Dec 15, 2009 12:54am Dec 15, 2009 12:54am
Quoting Rastaman
It should be and we should all have the daily pivot at the exact same area, if we all have it setup correctly in the input section.
For example, I am in Japan which is GMT+9 hours & so is my broker, so I have it set for +9 hours. At least that is my understanding of the reason TAH & Domas spent so much time in creating it, so that we all have the Daily pivots in the same ball park.

I know DD previously said "Don't sweat the small stuff" but this is not SMALL stuff. Obviously if PA is above or below the pivot, it is going to be critical to any...
My bad, I wasnt aware we can change the start time of the indic. How do we do that? Im GMT +8
  • #8,660
  • Dec 15, 2009 12:58am Dec 15, 2009 12:58am
Quoting furburr
My bad, I wasnt aware we can change the start time of the indic. How do we do that? Im GMT +8

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